VW Auto hold - advice on freak incident

VW Auto hold - advice on freak incident

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fourstardan

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Saturday 23rd December 2017
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Just what you need before xmas, an accident.

I've left the VW passat stationary in a car park, i've got Auto Hold assist in it, the car park is hard to explain, its a gravel/dirt based road and has very slight gradual gradiant then slopes down gradually for a while. When i'd left it, i'd got something out the boot it was fine, i'd had thought i'd see the car moving if i'd got out myself. So at this point the car was probably at the point where weight sustained it enough not to see it roll back.

I returned back to to my car (Manual transmission) and it's then rolled off into a wood fence, with just the bumper damaged. This is going to be a insurance claim and new bumper, so luckily nobody involved or injured and no other cars hit just a residential fence where it ended up!

Reason i'm posting on here is for some community help.

I am pulling my hair out trying to understand whats happened and whether this really was just me being a pillock and to blame for assuming and not being vigilant that the car wasn't in handbrake mode.

The last week or so the Auto Hold has been playing me about and not coming on when I press the button to activate it, could this be a manufacture fault to blame? I've read a lot about people hitting issues with Hill hold.

Can anyone help my sanity with this???

fourstardan

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Saturday 23rd December 2017
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mk2driver said:
You got out of a car and did not apply the handbrake and/or out it in gear and you are trying to blame the manufacturer?

The auto hold feature is not designed to be used when parking, it is an aid for pull away when driving.

I’m afraid this one is your problem.
I was asking if it was...not if i had a case.

Lots of people have posted about issues with it not engaging. And i found this;

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/volkswagen-is...

fourstardan

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Saturday 23rd December 2017
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TooLateForAName said:
So you knew that the handbrake was playing up and you still left a car on a slope and not in gear?

Your fault.


I may be slightly biter on this though. I got my car back yesterday after having it damaged (wing/headlamp/bumper) by someone who failed to park securely on a slope.

I don't understand how people can park on a slope and not leave the car in gear (or park if auto)
The car was fine when I pulled up got stuff out the boot then walked away, i can only think it was only slightly moving for me not to see.


fourstardan

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Saturday 23rd December 2017
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vonhosen said:
confused

Auto hold isn't a feature for use at journey end when exiting the vehicle (the manual electronic parking brake is).
It's a convenience feature for during the journey (in lieu of using the manual electronic parking brake feature).
More of a sensible answer Im looking for, to be honest the more it sinks in the more it adds up, i've gone from auto to manual and i guess on manual its different.

Appears some posters on this thread have never made a mistake, so I hope you know how to deal with one when you eventually do!

fourstardan

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Sunday 24th December 2017
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Burgerbob said:
Possibly, this was just you being a pillock...

But possibly not - what year is your passat? I had a 2011 Passat and the electric handrake was fully automatic so I never had to touch it. The car disengaged it when you drove off, and engaged it when you stopped. If yours is the same, and this failed, then perhaps your car is at fault.
Going to have to replicate this i think on the exact spot to work out if this was me.

Also this wasn't about hill hold but the Electronic Parking Brake. Is EPB automatic or does it always need to be turned on manually? My brain is scrambled eggs on this.

When reading this it sounds like a lot of people have experienced what I did yesterday and maybe the EPB has failed.

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/vw_passat_e...



Edited by fourstardan on Sunday 24th December 20:49

fourstardan

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Monday 25th December 2017
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I will probably have to put this down to me being a fkwit. Ive had some pragmatic views on this so thanks, ive seen a lot of posts that infer that VW cars have had the epb come off when they've thought it was on etc

I park on exactly the same spot this gazumped me.

Merry Christmas

fourstardan

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Tuesday 26th December 2017
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Some may had seen my previous post on hill hold failure....my fault on that as this was clearly not going to be me using hill hold for a handbrake function.

The incident was on Christmas Saturday, and what happened that i'm still scratching my head on.

Parked car on a spot i've parked on before, got something out of the boot, locked up and left the car.

Came back to the car to find it rolled back and into a residents fence with the bumper needing to now be replaced.

I'm very concerned about this, has anyone had this really serious issue happen before? I've been searching a lot of forums and found a rather large amount of reports of this happening.

Where would I stand in terms of liability here? Could the EPB had failed?