Was thrown the keys to this last night (car review)
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Following my review of my test drive on an AUDI RS6 not long ago (can be read here http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0... ) I thought I would post up my thoughts on the new AUDI TTS I drove yesterday evening, late afternoon.
not a fan of this type of car as Im not a ''wind in ya hair'' type of person, nor am i a hairdresser.
First impressions with looks, it does look good, it looks sportier than the cooking model and has the looks of a car you just want to jump and take for a spin.
I went out alone. THOROUGHLY enjoyed driving a car that makes a noise, WHAT A NOISE
i mean most 2.0 turbos sound nice, bt muffled by the turbo somewhat quiter than there non turbo counterparts. This thing sounds parpy and loud under hard acceleration but as the revs rise it goes a bit wheezier (As the turbo runs out of puff).
You can hear a whoosh and a churp of the turbo which in all honesty sounds fantastic, it sounds much better than the RS6 twin turbo.
It does sound a little ''Boy racer'' though. Which I didnt mind. I quite liked it.
She is a quick car, 270bhp odd and similar figure for the torque. I got all four wheels (4wd) to spin several times when launching and also when shifting into second with the DSG box. Box was smooth enough but was nice to have one paddle for downshifts and one for upshifts (my 335d has paddles but both can go up or down). Shifts were dealt with promtly and effectively whether up or down.
I did a 0-60 video for you which i will post up at some point. The car is supposed to do 0-60 in under 5 secs i believe.
Comparing to my 335d is difficult as there aimed at different people and different markets.
But on a purely performance related pointof view its ''Slower''
Not only does it feel slower once rolling above 40-50mph it ''WAS'' slower down my tale tale roads. I didnt get a chance to try any heroic drivng, but the car felt planted and stable at speed. The ride compared to my NON runflat shod 335d was good, actualy better. Didnt feel any potholes.
The magnatic ride was good, i liked it. The car handled well and felt neutral. No doubt on track it would understeer though as Audi 4wd inherantly do unfortunately.
Dynamically, it didnt feel as surefooted as the capable E92 BMW. I think of a dry track the Audi would be left standing by the derv. (No doubt some will not want to believe this)
Straightline acceleration the mapped 335d is quicker than the TTS. 0-60 would be close, maybe in the TTS favour due to the 4wd but above 60mph, ie 60-100mph the 335d WILL pull away considerably. After 100mph the 335d is gone. Map the TTS and they would be closely matched for sure.
Its amazing really as ive been pretty unenthusiastic about the 335d lately. Feels slow etc.
It was a revelation getting into a petrol 2.0 turbo. Its was great fun and i enjoyed it, but what amazed even more was how good the 335d felt afterwards.
She felt more ''weighty'' especially the steering, and feels more chuckable and surefooted around the bends.
The low down grunt is great and it really made me realise once again how GOOD a mapped 335d is.
I would not swap it for a TTS. No way.. The 335d is such an accomplished bit of kit. So dynamic.
But the TTS is a great car, a great car for ones missus!!
The interior is typically Audi. Sublime and very stylish. No better than BMW but a different style..
Audi is aimed more for a poser type, BMW aim at the driver. Something i read recently in an article comparing the 123D coupe and new Audi TT diesel.
A sentiment i agree 100% with
thanks and hope you enjoy my rview
Carlos
not a fan of this type of car as Im not a ''wind in ya hair'' type of person, nor am i a hairdresser.
First impressions with looks, it does look good, it looks sportier than the cooking model and has the looks of a car you just want to jump and take for a spin.
I went out alone. THOROUGHLY enjoyed driving a car that makes a noise, WHAT A NOISE
i mean most 2.0 turbos sound nice, bt muffled by the turbo somewhat quiter than there non turbo counterparts. This thing sounds parpy and loud under hard acceleration but as the revs rise it goes a bit wheezier (As the turbo runs out of puff).
You can hear a whoosh and a churp of the turbo which in all honesty sounds fantastic, it sounds much better than the RS6 twin turbo.
It does sound a little ''Boy racer'' though. Which I didnt mind. I quite liked it.
She is a quick car, 270bhp odd and similar figure for the torque. I got all four wheels (4wd) to spin several times when launching and also when shifting into second with the DSG box. Box was smooth enough but was nice to have one paddle for downshifts and one for upshifts (my 335d has paddles but both can go up or down). Shifts were dealt with promtly and effectively whether up or down.
I did a 0-60 video for you which i will post up at some point. The car is supposed to do 0-60 in under 5 secs i believe.
Comparing to my 335d is difficult as there aimed at different people and different markets.
But on a purely performance related pointof view its ''Slower''
Not only does it feel slower once rolling above 40-50mph it ''WAS'' slower down my tale tale roads. I didnt get a chance to try any heroic drivng, but the car felt planted and stable at speed. The ride compared to my NON runflat shod 335d was good, actualy better. Didnt feel any potholes.
The magnatic ride was good, i liked it. The car handled well and felt neutral. No doubt on track it would understeer though as Audi 4wd inherantly do unfortunately.
Dynamically, it didnt feel as surefooted as the capable E92 BMW. I think of a dry track the Audi would be left standing by the derv. (No doubt some will not want to believe this)
Straightline acceleration the mapped 335d is quicker than the TTS. 0-60 would be close, maybe in the TTS favour due to the 4wd but above 60mph, ie 60-100mph the 335d WILL pull away considerably. After 100mph the 335d is gone. Map the TTS and they would be closely matched for sure.
Its amazing really as ive been pretty unenthusiastic about the 335d lately. Feels slow etc.
It was a revelation getting into a petrol 2.0 turbo. Its was great fun and i enjoyed it, but what amazed even more was how good the 335d felt afterwards.
She felt more ''weighty'' especially the steering, and feels more chuckable and surefooted around the bends.
The low down grunt is great and it really made me realise once again how GOOD a mapped 335d is.
I would not swap it for a TTS. No way.. The 335d is such an accomplished bit of kit. So dynamic.
But the TTS is a great car, a great car for ones missus!!
The interior is typically Audi. Sublime and very stylish. No better than BMW but a different style..
Audi is aimed more for a poser type, BMW aim at the driver. Something i read recently in an article comparing the 123D coupe and new Audi TT diesel.
A sentiment i agree 100% with
thanks and hope you enjoy my rview
Carlos
Sorry if you think i am obsessed with my car. Maybe i am. I hope you to one day find a really enjoyable car that you want to keep as you think its that good.
On top of that a stock 335d will beat this TTS to 100mph, not 0-60 though.
Anyhow. Untill i get something else. I will compare it to my car. Just wont bother posting on here.
Weird really, Post up similar things on other websites with no negative feedback.
On top of that a stock 335d will beat this TTS to 100mph, not 0-60 though.
Anyhow. Untill i get something else. I will compare it to my car. Just wont bother posting on here.
Weird really, Post up similar things on other websites with no negative feedback.
paul328m3 said:
dxb335d said:
On top of that a stock 335d will beat this TTS to 100mph, not 0-60 though.
Nobody really gives a st because its a completely different type of car. Yours is a family car, the TTS isn't. The TTS will get more looks from women than a 335d. That is very important. Predominantly men will be impressed by the 335d...Edited by paul328m3 on Saturday 9th August 18:56
not really ideally suited the E92 to a family its only a 4 seater. 2 door thing. Bloody pain in the arse for lugging people.
The TTS is a great car, read back to what i said.
And i aint into your type of car.. Im sure it goes good aroudn track etc. And if you ever bother to write anything about it, as i aint interested i wont come out of no-where and take the piss out of your car and moan about you writing about it. I dont go negative on other peoples posts and dotn deserve it hapening to me,
I enjoy my type of car therefore write about it,
You enjoy yur car and enjoy writing about it, same goes for everyone on here. There is ABSOLUTELY no need for negative comments and ''your car is a pile of wank'' comments
I enjoy my type of car therefore write about it,
You enjoy yur car and enjoy writing about it, same goes for everyone on here. There is ABSOLUTELY no need for negative comments and ''your car is a pile of wank'' comments
Alfa_75_Steve said:
paul328m3 said:
dxb335d said:
On top of that a stock 335d will beat this TTS to 100mph, not 0-60 though.
Nobody really gives a st because its a completely different type of car. Yours is a family car, the TTS isn't. The TTS will get more looks from women than a 335d. That is very important. Predominantly men will be impressed by the 335d...I've not driven a 335d, but did test a 320d - now I appreciate the 335d drive train is a lot better, but the rest of the car is largely the same.
I thought the 320d was pretty average. Build quality was nowhere near as good as the new A4 and I just found it a completely uninspiring car.
I have driven a base spec 320i and was left unimpressed myself. Ive driven many New Audis now and disgree there build quality is much better.
There is no New RS4 at the moment. The last was has been completely outclassed by the current M3.
Yes apparently i have heard early e90 saloons are not very good quality. I can vouch for the coupe though. Its very good. Not as stylish as the Audi. But very good all the same.
No car with PAS has any decent feedback whatsoever.. Thats all modern coupes/saloon/hatchbacks/supercars.
Yes apparently i have heard early e90 saloons are not very good quality. I can vouch for the coupe though. Its very good. Not as stylish as the Audi. But very good all the same.
No car with PAS has any decent feedback whatsoever.. Thats all modern coupes/saloon/hatchbacks/supercars.
biglepton said:
dxb335d said:
Anyhow. Untill i get something else. I will compare it to my car. Just wont bother posting on here.
Hooray! dxb335d said:
Weird really, Post up similar things on other websites with no negative feedback.
You've posted 2000+ times in seven months about your dad's bloody diesel Beemer and got no negative feedback? All the other members must have you on ignore.Seriously though, the 335d is a decent car for a diesel, but it's a one-trick pony. All you do is go on about straight-line drag times which mean very little. There are many lesser straight line cars that would kill it round a track and that's what real driving is all about - corners. Any fool can stomp his foot down in an auto. I really love your enthusiasm and wish you well, but we're bored sh!tless with your obsessing over this pretty ordinary car that just happens to have a lot of torque. All the best.
So now does every BMW handle st then? or it is cuz my is a diesel. I have doen a track day in her and she was superb.
I passed A lot of cars that day, several times. TO name a few, E36 M3, E46 M3, V8 Vantage, Lotus Elise, several caterham tyope cars. I was closing down a CSL, although marginally.
Now either my car handles well and is quick in a straightline, or i was just a better driver than them in a complete st handling car.
biglepton said:
BigAl83 said:
RobJShe said:
HowMuchLonger said:
335D Coupe 38K plus extras 0-60 5.9s
TTS Coupe 33K plus extras 0-60 5.2s
DXB`s 335 = 5.4 secs apparently.TTS Coupe 33K plus extras 0-60 5.2s
Mine 0-60 - 4.2 secs
0-100 - 9.9 secs
0-150 - 18 secs
Flat out 180+
It must be bloody heavy then as Car & Driver mag got my Mazda 6 MPS with a mere 260bhp and 280lb-ft to 60 in 5.4 seconds. . . . . .
biglepton said:
pgilc1 said:
10 Pence Short said:
FFS, are you still banging on about that diesel rep mobile?
Nobody wants to photograph it, nobody bats an eyelid when they see one, nobody cares.
It's like banging on about having a posh fridge- You could have the best f&cking fridge on the planet, but it's still just a fridge.
Ironically its everyone else who seems to be banging on about it. 9 pages and counting....Nobody wants to photograph it, nobody bats an eyelid when they see one, nobody cares.
It's like banging on about having a posh fridge- You could have the best f&cking fridge on the planet, but it's still just a fridge.
regarding the mazda. CARand driver say 1/4mile in 14.0 @99mph,my car when stock did a 13.9@101.5mph. So the 335d is quicker to 100mph. I rekon stock my car did 0-60 in 5.8, so therefore slower than that mazda to 60 but reeling past it upto the ton. Now i post 13.5@105mph, but only 5.4 0-60.
Anyhow. i have thoroughly enjoyed this post thanks to all of you. Its been very entertaining.
Anyhow. i have thoroughly enjoyed this post thanks to all of you. Its been very entertaining.
Edited by dxb335d on Sunday 10th August 15:29
biglepton said:
dxb335d said:
regarding the mazda. CARand driver say 1/4mile in 14.0 @99mph,my car when stock did a 13.9@101.5mph. So the 335d is quicker to 100mph. I rekon stock my car did 0-60 in 5.8, so therefore slower than that mazda to 60 but reeling past it upto the ton. Now i post 13.5@105mph, but only 5.4 0-60.
Anyhow. i have thoroughly enjoyed this post thanks to all of you. Its been very entertaining.
So you claim to have twice the torque in your remapped car than I have in my standard car (530 vs 280) and all that buys you is the same 0-60 time and half a second on a quarter mile? They must be the worlds weakest lb-fts or that autobox is sapping vast amounts of poke. Sounds very inefficient to me especially when you consider my car is a bit heavier than yours.Anyhow. i have thoroughly enjoyed this post thanks to all of you. Its been very entertaining.
Edited by dxb335d on Sunday 10th August 15:29
I have videos of my car going from 120-150, she does relentlessy accelerate aover the ton mark. Id be happy to meet you at Brunters to show you that a diesel can be fast.
biglepton said:
dxb335d said:
biglepton said:
dxb335d said:
regarding the mazda. CARand driver say 1/4mile in 14.0 @99mph,my car when stock did a 13.9@101.5mph. So the 335d is quicker to 100mph. I rekon stock my car did 0-60 in 5.8, so therefore slower than that mazda to 60 but reeling past it upto the ton. Now i post 13.5@105mph, but only 5.4 0-60.
Anyhow. i have thoroughly enjoyed this post thanks to all of you. Its been very entertaining.
So you claim to have twice the torque in your remapped car than I have in my standard car (530 vs 280) and all that buys you is the same 0-60 time and half a second on a quarter mile? They must be the worlds weakest lb-fts or that autobox is sapping vast amounts of poke. Sounds very inefficient to me especially when you consider my car is a bit heavier than yours.Anyhow. i have thoroughly enjoyed this post thanks to all of you. Its been very entertaining.
Edited by dxb335d on Sunday 10th August 15:29
I have videos of my car going from 120-150, she does relentlessy accelerate aover the ton mark. Id be happy to meet you at Brunters to show you that a diesel can be fast.
You can put a couple of feet between my stock and your modded car in straight line at brunters and I'll put half a lap between us round five laps of castle combe or knockhill!
You believe that around the top gear test track your mazda will be quicker than a stock 335d?
With the stig driving etc on the same day (both cars there)?
Not sure what either car does round there, but a 535d, with less power and more weight was quicker than a focus RS etc.
A 335d will put more than a few feet of distance to a mazda at brunters. More like 10 car lengths.
So either your suggesting your miles a better driver than me, or your car is miles better around a track.
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