I know its generally frowned upon but....

I know its generally frowned upon but....

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Utterly Clueless

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Can anyone reccomend a nice set of deep split multispoke wheels that are 15" with 4x100 fitment?

as the title says, i know its generally frowned upon, but my parents being lovely people have gone apest with me for wanting (and arranging) to swap my golf for an MR2, and to deter me they have said that for my 20th they will give me about 250-350 for something for my car. I have decided to go for a nice set of wheels.

A good description of what im after would be BBS RS or BBS LM but without the price tag. They are to go on my VW golf, and as the 'euro style' has grown on me im wanting to move my golf in that vague direction. Obviously i dont want stupidly low with silly big wheels, just a little lower to help wth handling (its a bit boat-tastic at the moment) and some nice wheels just to improve the looks a bit.

anyway, im prepared to be ripped to shreds by the usual lot but hopefully i will get 'some' advice.

Thanks

Thom

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because 'we paid a lot of money for the car' and 'its worth more than 1100 so you losing out on money'

when the reality is we were raped when we bought the car, and its actually worth less than 1100, but obviously having 'lived longer' they are 'more experience in life'

oh and the fact the cars in dads name :S

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mmm-five said:
£250 is not going to get you a good set of wheels, tyres and lowered suspension!
i know, i work for halfords so get 15% off whatever wheels i order through them, and they are adding up to 350. i am paying the rest.

the lowering can wait, and the wheels come with tires so even tho they are usually quite crap money for new tires isn't a necessity.

zetec02 said:
If the car is in your dads name then presumably your on his insurance to. Could you put this money towards getting your own insurance for it?
the insurance is in dads name, yes. BUT it will be in my name as of may and i am able to pay for that myself so theres no need for the money to go there

fathomfive said:
What's on it at the moment?
these


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ZeeTacoe said:
so you're buying something for a car you are going to get rid of. Something that will only reduce its value further. Apt new username.
no im not going to be getting rid of it for a while. and if i come to sell it i will just put the original wheels back on and sell the aftermarket ones.

not rocket science.

Thom

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HAHA, love that MK3, everytime i see a picture of a VW looking like that it makes me chuckle.

i was thinking something like these would suit it down to the ground


£540 with 195/45/15 tires or £520 with 195/50/15 tires

through work they would probably cost me about £450 then £30 for some paint and i could spray the centres the same colour as the car.

Thom

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MonkeyBusiness said:
Utterly Clueless said:
the insurance is in dads name, yes. BUT it will be in my name as of may and i am able to pay for that myself so theres no need for the money to go there
So for three months you are going to be fronting? Nice one.

Go here for ideas. MX5 wheels but the same fitment : http://www.jdmpassion.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=20...
OK im explaining this just the once more as ive had to explain it atleast 20 times across the forum, I AM NOT FRONTING!!!! the insurance company are aware i am the main vehicle user and have increased my insurance premium due to this fact. therefor NOT fronting.

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retrorider said:
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HAHA, love that MK3, everytime i see a picture of a VW looking like that it makes me chuckle.

i was thinking something like these would suit it down to the ground


£540 with 195/45/15 tires or £520 with 195/50/15 tires

through work they would probably cost me about £450 then £30 for some paint and i could spray the centres the same colour as the car.

Thom
oh dear,looks like the barry boys will be getting a new member.banghead
I understand how this looks, but, if VW though BBS wheels suited the VR6 then in theory these shouldnt look to out of place given they are not too dissimilar in design to the BBS used by VW.

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I'm 19 and still live with my parents so at the moment im not wanting to cause argument. as of may i will be insuring in my own name, so i should have a 1NCB by the time i'm 21, that means a MR2 turbo is on the cards for insurable under 1k. if thats the case, and i have the money available, then that will be what i do.

at the moment i dont really mind not getting an mr2 as insurance and running costs may be a cause for concern.

Thom

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skylinecrazy said:
Thought you were selling the Golf for 1200 quid?
i was, then my parents went apest. so now im not which remind me, the ad needs to come down.

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Also another justification for new wheels is at 15" i can get some decent tires, and have more choice than i do at 14". which is good, given that at 0.9leptons round the evo triangle the car hopped about like a fking kangaroo on 'e' as the tires gripped lost grip and regaind grip numerous times during the corners. some decent tires and stiffer/lower suspension and i think it'd handle a fair amount better than it does now.


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skylinecrazy said:
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skylinecrazy said:
Thought you were selling the Golf for 1200 quid?
i was, then my parents went apest. so now im not which remind me, the ad needs to come down.

Thom
Isn't it your car?
technically it is my car, legally its not. I paid for it, and i use it but as far as the DVLA is concerned it belong to my dad as its in his name as the insurance is in his name. read the whole thread as details on this have been mentioned.

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polosaremint said:
drop 60/60 on 16s i reckons.
no thankyou, I like having a sump left after i go over a speed bump.

40/40 on 15's is the most im doing.
and its not going to be shorter springs, it going to be a coil over kit, probably a bilstein b14.

Thom

Edited by Utterly Clueless on Sunday 1st March 21:21

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sploosh said:
Modifying the car will lower its value and invalidate your insurance.

Spend the money on something you'll enjoy.

Track day, supercar experience?

You could go the Le Mans for that sort of cash!!
lowered value, yes, but only if i sell it with the modification, which i wont, revert to stock, sell car as stock, sell parts on a VW forum as there are a few 'euro style' fans about so surely someone will buy them.

Insurance, yes it will invalidate it, but only if i dont declare the modifications. being that im not chavvy pikey scum it will be declared thus giving me valid insurance.

HereBeMonsters said:
Surely you can just get the lowering effect by filling the boot full of ICE with your 15% discount, paint your current wheels with rattle cans (shake well first) and then do a few burnouts to make your current tyres into semi-slicks?
Please, dont insult me. Maybe the people you choose to be around do this, thats fine with me, i dont judge people by their friend or what they do. I wont bite and have a go back as everyone is entitled to their opinions, some are stupider than others but thats life (OK maybe i'll have a nibble, but not a full bite)

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darkyoung1000 said:
Aren't Mk3s 5 stud not 4 stud? If so, Speedlines might look good, are OEM and available for buttons from Corrado owners.

Cheers,
Tom
no, standard golfs are 4 stud, GTi's and VR6's are 5 stud.

Thom

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ZeeTacoe said:
Utterly Clueless said:
Also another justification for new wheels is at 15" i can get some decent tires, and have more choice than i do at 14". which is good, given that at 0.9leptons round the evo triangle the car hopped about like a fking kangaroo on 'e' as the tires gripped lost grip and regained grip numerous times during the corners. some decent tires and stiffer/lower suspension and i think it'd handle a fair amount better than it does now.
Do you really think stiffer and lower suspension will help a 1.6 litre shopping trolley handle better? Just give up spending money on stupid things for a shopping car and save up for something else, something designed to do corners and country lanes quickly.
Well i may be wrong but i thought stiffer suspension decreased body roll and kept tires in contact with ground better. i was also under the impressions that lowering the car lowered center of gravity thus reducing body roll, as far as i am aware wider wheels allow for wider tires thus meaning more rubber on the road and there for increasing grip levels. so forgive me if im wrong but wouldnt those things amount to improved (no matter how little) handling?

Volvo had a racing team did they not, they are hefty cars, did uprated suspension,wheels and tires not contribute to them going around a corner better than stock form??

If im wrong then so be it, but please dont take me for someone who doesnt know an exhaust from an engine mount, i may not know much, but i like to think i have a slight idea.

darkyoung1000 said:
Well I learned something today! In which case, if you're willing to consider OEM wheels, then the 4 stud Sebrings from a 1.8 16v C look good on a Golf IMO, although the BBS wheels from a standard G60 C are even better (though a pig to keep clean). Other options might be ATS Cups if they do them in 15" dia.
I'd avoid cheap new wheels personally, and spend at least £200 on a set of Toyos.

Cheers,
Tom
those wheels with toyo proxes tr-1's are about 580. ive not heard bad things about the lenso's altho (as with everything) i will do my fair amount of research to check i'm not buying something that will fall appart or something else.

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Poverty said:
stop sponging off your parents and get a better job lol.
please tell me that was tongue in cheek, given your alias.

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Polosaremint, allow me to give some advise. Being a relative newbie to the forum you need to realise that some of these guys are fairly up to par with the motoring knowledge, some on here dont know how to react when someone wants to modify a car and go down the instantly labelling as a barry boy route, where as others have been there and know from experience that it can be a mistake. You just need to remeber to take what some people say with a pinch (or in some cases a bucket) of salt, pretty much like im doing here.

anyways, the wheel's are a definite as i really like them and think they will suit the car well. the suspension is on the cards i'll see how i feel about it when i have the funds. Hell, if it turns out to be a good investment i may drop the corrado VR engine in it and keep the car.

who knows. End of the day the cars not going to look stupid with lots of stick on tat, its just 2 modifications to give the car better look and feel (IMO).

Thom

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Marf said:
Ditch the Golf and get that MR2 you've been hankering after. You're 19 ffs, do the whole impractical 2 seater thing if you want!
i would, but where do i live when my dad kicks the st out of me?

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because 'we paid a lot of money for the car' and 'its worth more than 1100 so you losing out on money'

when the reality is we were raped when we bought the car, and its actually worth less than 1100, but obviously having 'lived longer' they are 'more experience in life'

oh and the fact the cars in dads name :S
Raped, fking hell and the rest, no offence they honestly paid that much for that golf, my mate picked one of them up with like 30k miles on the clock one owner FSH with tax and mot for £600, honestly why would they pay that much for that car, hell tell them I got a mk1 GTi they can have needs some work but theres for 2k laugh

Swap it for the MR2, 5 door mk3 golfs arent ever going to be cool lol
thats the thing, THEY didnt pay anything, i took the fking hit for it, it was my money i had as an 18th birthday gift.

oh well, live and learn hey.


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Adz The Rat said:
MK2 Golf will look great on Schmidt Modernlines, I would love some for my Corrado but cant afford.
maybe so....shame my golf a MK3 rolleyes