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Welshbeef

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Thursday 15th July 2010
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Well countless threads about how fast a car could do it today 20+ years after tony pond did a 100mph average speed lap on a 174bhp v6 rover vitesse. Well I have the vid he is sat a 145mph for long straletches

Fifthgear today showed a new merc and tiff easily got it up to 160 mph on the not so straight roads and no safety equipment. So on the assumption he did the whole track a mere 20mph faster than tony pond which is very easy to do over that old v6 rover then I guess average speed could easily jump to 110mph.
Then add in the fact that rover did 0-60 in 8-9 seconds while the merc does it in 3 seconds I'd wager the brakes and tyres are leagues ahead to the extent that I'd say a 120mph is quite easily possible in that car without helmet and nutter risk all driver.

One other thing as it is derestricted why not have a timed race on a section go for it given it's clear and check what the bike averaged over that same distance then add on speed for a racing driver over your inferior skill plus the fact the road isn't closed.

Job done

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Welshbeef

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Friday 16th July 2010
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jjones said:
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Welshbeef

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Fact is it is a 2.7 v6 n/a unit STD suspension, straight through exhaust.

So factory spec was 175bhp circa. Back then how far could you tune an engine it did seem very low rent so hardly much spent on the upgrades.

Whatever it's no way more than 200bhp thecorrado vr6 from that era even tuned only managed 220bhp from a 197bhp start point so using that crude scenario I'm hapyit was a poor performance car. I'd say a 330d would totally smash that record

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Friday 16th July 2010
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But its with additional info it proved that a high powered car can easily hit 160mph through the non straight parts of the track and he wasnt giving it 10/10th's no helmet/roll cage etc etc.

So given this it proves that car would cruicify the Rover Vitesse 2.7 V6 n/a slicks (on a part damp track) with straight through exhaust. That only managed 145mph and held at that speed for long periods of time throughout the course to nail a 100mph ave speed this Merc easily hit 160mph with out giving it all that could be (Rover was nailed totally - watch parts of the drive he is 11/10th's).


Welshbeef

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Friday 16th July 2010
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The statement that a car cannot handle the bumpy nature of the trade just doesnt fit - engineers will change the setup of the car to suit the nature of the circuit not like that of the snooker table smoothness of F1 racing track.


One question here Silverstone GP F1 car hit 1min 32 ish What did Moto GP do? Then what did the Porche Supercup cars manage?

The F1 cars didnt like the bump too much however the 911's certainly handled the bump with ease.

Note Im not talking about smashing the 130mph time here - which a car may well do - just hammering the 100mph average by that vitesse 2.7ltr v6 n/a

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Friday 16th July 2010
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freecar said:
Welshbeef said:
Note Im not talking about smashing the 130mph time here - which a car may well do - just hammering the 100mph average by that vitesse 2.7ltr v6 n/a
Guys, calm down, he's admitted to the trollery! To answer your question yes a newer car could beat the old car's time! FFS
Trollery = feckwit um thanks for that

Welshbeef

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freecar said:
Welshbeef said:
freecar said:
Welshbeef said:
Note Im not talking about smashing the 130mph time here - which a car may well do - just hammering the 100mph average by that vitesse 2.7ltr v6 n/a
Guys, calm down, he's admitted to the trollery! To answer your question yes a newer car could beat the old car's time! FFS
Trollery = feckwit um thanks for that
Let's face it, you were trying to start the car v bike age old row, it didn't work properly so you changed it to a totally pointless question. One that isn't worth even answering.
I don't care for riding bikes I do enjoy watching bike racing. Care to classify who's bed you sleep in

Welshbeef

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Friday 16th July 2010
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Anyone know what the lap time at the ring of the rover vitesse is? If so then we could model back what other cars could do at iom and hence get average speed

note it was also a standing start so a flying lap would be even quicker in that old shed sorry vitesse.

Christ I wonder how much faster a cossie from that era could do it 115mph ave at the very least.

Welshbeef

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Friday 16th July 2010
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B bridge crawl over it in a fast if necessary. How fast do bikes cross it?
Remember fastest bike lap is a standing start so slowing down moreso in a car than bike
so bring it on.

Welshbeef

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Friday 16th July 2010
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Only about 40mph!! I was getting the impression. From the crew who say bike is faster it was a big speed say 100mph plus 40 Christ if you cannot take a car over a humpback bridge at that speed something wrong there. I've been airborne over humpbacks before not on purpose came without notice sign hidden by foiledge must have been 40odd mph not pleasant luckily straight and my road car didn't bottom out not even hit bump stops so bring it on

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Friday 16th July 2010
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So given bikes don't do the bridge at high speed at all why did the bikes are faster crew jump onto this line this non issue line? Muddying the water.


Welshbeef

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Friday 16th July 2010
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How about a 600bhp wrc with co driver therefore one or two shakedowns and then balls out driving. Car full wrc safety stds no more danger than a rally event.

I'm sure even with an additional 80kg co driver that would still smash 130mph lap

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Friday 16th July 2010
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Does anyone on ph live in ion if they do what car you got and can you please do a full on 4am run

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Friday 16th July 2010
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I'd like to thank everyone posting on this thread lots of substance rather than waffle. Lots of discussion on the real issues and thankfully people stepping back from just saying one will be quicker without any reasoning apart from general hunch.
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