Help choosing which GT3

Help choosing which GT3

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Slippydiff

14,913 posts

225 months

Monday 23rd July 2018
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Harris_I said:
franki68 said:
The car was fairly new if I recall correctly.I actually thought I may be getting mixed up as I have driven a lot of cars over the years so had a quick look at some of the original road test reviews ,words like 'hard' and 'jiggles about a lot' were used in describing the ride.
Interestingly Harris wrote a piece about the car and pointed out that the first gen of it rode much nicer than the 2nd gen so maybe the one I drove was a later car.

Anyway if people love it fine,I understand much of the appeal but it was not something I enjoyed driving at the time.
It's never going to be a classic Citroen DS on hydropneumatic suspension, but I always felt most journos were poorly qualified to judge the 6 GT3.

I drove the then-new 997 C2 with PASM back to back for a few hours with my then-standard 996 GT3 (mk 2) on fast but fairly challenging road surfaces (surface imperfections, cambers and crowns), and the 6 on standard passive dampers was significantly better damped than the 7 in either the sport or comfort setting (sport was just plain hard and unsophisticated, comfort was wallowy). The 7 (non-GT3 so you'd expect it to be tuned for comfort not racing) was all over the place at speed, the 6 took it in its stride.
The Mk 1 996 GT3 was more softly sprung, and a better road car for it imo.
Had a couple of Gen 1 997 GT3’s, I think your choice of word in unsophisticated is pretty much perfect. I bought the second example thinking it would make a good continent crusher, and found myself disappointed with how noisy and harsh it was. As you said, a completely standard 996 GT3 somehow seemed more refined.

Harris_I

3,229 posts

261 months

Monday 23rd July 2018
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Actually I was comparing to a bog standard 997 C2 (with the then-recently introduced PASM). I was expecting it to have a similar level of control to the 6GT3 in the sport setting and more comfortable in the comfort setting. But it was crude in the former and mediocre in the latter.

Harris_I

3,229 posts

261 months

Monday 23rd July 2018
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Oh wait, I always get confused between PASM and PSM. You know which one I mean! biggrin

alfapork

Original Poster:

294 posts

104 months

Tuesday 24th July 2018
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Original poster here. Just had an offer accepted on a black 2005 6.2...

lemmingjames

7,465 posts

206 months

Tuesday 24th July 2018
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alfapork said:
Original poster here. Just had an offer accepted on a black 2005 6.2...
Is that the one that did a barrel roll

alfapork

Original Poster:

294 posts

104 months

Tuesday 24th July 2018
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Er no

BrotherMouzone

3,169 posts

176 months

Tuesday 24th July 2018
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Lemming wasn’t joking.

Make sure you check this thread.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

v8ksn

4,711 posts

186 months

Tuesday 24th July 2018
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alfapork said:
Original poster here. Just had an offer accepted on a black 2005 6.2...
This one - WM03 GEU ?

JulierPass

641 posts

232 months

Tuesday 24th July 2018
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Assuming you've had it inspected? If so should have pulled up if front / back end panels have been changed, chassis has been bent or car has been painted? Where did you get it from - private or known dealer?

alfapork

Original Poster:

294 posts

104 months

Tuesday 24th July 2018
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RPM, I’ve been all over it on the ramp, it’s 100%

JulierPass

641 posts

232 months

Tuesday 24th July 2018
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alfapork said:
RPM, I’ve been all over it on the ramp, it’s 100%
any pics?

BrotherMouzone

3,169 posts

176 months

Tuesday 24th July 2018
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alfapork said:
RPM, I’ve been all over it on the ramp, it’s 100%
cool

Slippydiff

14,913 posts

225 months

Tuesday 24th July 2018
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anonymous said:
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He’ll need to sort the poor gear ratios, the anti-roll bars (which are just “wrong”), the engine lacking in torque (anywhere) the horrendous understeer, replace the hopeless dampers and weak diff (and brace himself for a £30k refurbishment bill) before he even starts to consider enjoying it J !!

JulierPass

641 posts

232 months

Tuesday 24th July 2018
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Slippydiff said:
He’ll need to sort the poor gear ratios, the anti-roll bars (which are just “wrong”), the engine lacking in torque (anywhere) the horrendous understeer, replace the hopeless dampers and weak diff (and brace himself for a £30k refurbishment bill) before he even starts to consider enjoying it J !!
Or he could buy a Cayman R or 2 and be done with it laugh

CrashBang

225 posts

157 months

Tuesday 24th July 2018
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Slippydiff said:
He’ll need to sort the poor gear ratios, the anti-roll bars (which are just “wrong”), the engine lacking in torque (anywhere) the horrendous understeer, replace the hopeless dampers and weak diff (and brace himself for a £30k refurbishment bill) before he even starts to consider enjoying it J !!
smile - We can but hope he keeps his self serving tripe to himself!

Slippydiff

14,913 posts

225 months

Tuesday 24th July 2018
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JulierPass said:
Or he could buy a Cayman R or 2 and be done with it laugh
Or failing that he could try to master the art of driving a slightly more analogue 911 ...

or even find some roads better suited to the GT3 (though I can’t remember the last time I found myself behind the wheel of a 996/7 GT3 and thought « “well this road is wholly unsuited to my current mode of transport ...” but then as others have said, I don’t feel the need to drive everywhere bouncing off the rev limiter in every gear to get my kicks behind the wheel... maybe I’m missing something ???

Edited by Slippydiff on Tuesday 24th July 20:59

Slippydiff

14,913 posts

225 months

Tuesday 24th July 2018
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CrashBang said:
Slippydiff said:
He’ll need to sort the poor gear ratios, the anti-roll bars (which are just “wrong”), the engine lacking in torque (anywhere) the horrendous understeer, replace the hopeless dampers and weak diff (and brace himself for a £30k refurbishment bill) before he even starts to consider enjoying it J !!
smile - We can but hope he keeps his self serving tripe to himself!
I won’t hold my breath ... silly

lemmingjames

7,465 posts

206 months

Tuesday 24th July 2018
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Don't worry, it was track day today so you know that means extended periods in the sun

hunter 66

3,922 posts

222 months

Tuesday 24th July 2018
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Did a few laps today ..... must say the 993 carrera 2 was well driven ....maybe no need for a GT car ??

Joehow

612 posts

117 months

Wednesday 25th July 2018
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alfapork said:
RPM, I’ve been all over it on the ramp, it’s 100%
Congratulations dude..look great in black. Any excuse to post a pic!