what is an 'early' 3.4 996?

what is an 'early' 3.4 996?

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ATM

18,367 posts

221 months

Wednesday 8th November 2023
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Slippydiff said:
I got endless grief for running no centre caps. Although you probably wont now because I have preempted it. You're welcome.

Andyoz

2,890 posts

56 months

Wednesday 8th November 2023
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Fast Bug said:
If it was silly cheap and been repaired to a good standard I don't think it would put me off. It would need to be silly cheap though!
Highest bid was £47k so that bidder dodged a bullet IMO with it having a high Reserve

ferrisbueller

29,384 posts

229 months

Wednesday 8th November 2023
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Andyoz said:
Chris Stott said:
Either looks enough to write the car off in isolation.
Just a few quote from the Cars and Classic auction..."Some experience on track"..."glanced an Armco at 30mph"...careful out there...





I think it's the off-track experience they should have mentioned ITSWIM?!
At what point does this begin to reflect badly on the auctioneer? Surely they have to do some due diligence and can't just slopey shoulder it onto the seller.

Andyoz

2,890 posts

56 months

Wednesday 8th November 2023
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ferrisbueller said:
I think it's the off-track experience they should have mentioned ITSWIM?!
At what point does this begin to reflect badly on the auctioneer? Surely they have to do some due diligence and can't just slopey shoulder it onto the seller.
Yes, nice of the seller to offer up that snippet about a "30mph incident" as the red herring to deflect lads from looking deeper into a cars history...

braddo

10,630 posts

190 months

Wednesday 8th November 2023
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Pflanzgarten said:
That isn’t rubystone.
I know, hence the winky in my post.

When I see rubystone, all I see is dark pink! It astonishes me that anyone thinks it's a good colour for a car.




Edited by braddo on Monday 13th November 14:31

Slippydiff

14,902 posts

225 months

Wednesday 8th November 2023
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ATM said:
Slippydiff said:
I got endless grief for running no centre caps. Although you probably wont now because I have preempted it. You're welcome.
It was always going too fast for people to see whether it had centre caps or not smile

But when a car’s as hardcore as that one was, it didn’t really concern me if people got sniffy about the lack of centre caps anyway (not that anyone ever did comment on their absence) smile

The car was about as “Motorsport” as it got short of being a Cup car.

E88’s and GT cars shouldn’t have centre caps. It’s the law.
Both they and the ridiculous faux bolt-on “centrelock” caps look utterly incongruous on what are Motorsport wheels.

ATM

18,367 posts

221 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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My clutch or clutch pedal isn't working. Started feeling soft and biting point is getting lower and lower fast. I'm thinking I had this before in my other 996. Was that slave cylinder or the pipe peaking maybe?

What does the Internet think?

Rich_

1,963 posts

206 months

Saturday 11th November 2023
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ATM said:
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My clutch or clutch pedal isn't working. Started feeling soft and biting point is getting lower and lower fast. I'm thinking I had this before in my other 996. Was that slave cylinder or the pipe peaking maybe?

What does the Internet think?
Sounds like the clutch slave is on its way out. Has it been replaced at all? Any fluid on the ground? If not , possible its leaking into the bell housing. Check your brake fluid reservoir, is it low? (its the same reservoir for the clutch).


ATM

18,367 posts

221 months

Sunday 12th November 2023
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Rich_ said:
Sounds like the clutch slave is on its way out. Has it been replaced at all? Any fluid on the ground? If not , possible its leaking into the bell housing. Check your brake fluid reservoir, is it low? (its the same reservoir for the clutch).
Ok I have one of them in stock


Rich_

1,963 posts

206 months

Sunday 12th November 2023
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ATM said:
Rich_ said:
Sounds like the clutch slave is on its way out. Has it been replaced at all? Any fluid on the ground? If not , possible its leaking into the bell housing. Check your brake fluid reservoir, is it low? (its the same reservoir for the clutch).
Ok I have one of them in stock

Nice. It's not the easiest to get at unless you have a lift. But doable on high axle stands I'd guess. Worth buying a pressure/power bleeder and you may as well bleed the whole brake system whilst you're there. Remember to hold the clutch pedal to the floor as you bleed it smile

ATM

18,367 posts

221 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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Rich_ said:
ATM said:
Rich_ said:
Sounds like the clutch slave is on its way out. Has it been replaced at all? Any fluid on the ground? If not , possible its leaking into the bell housing. Check your brake fluid reservoir, is it low? (its the same reservoir for the clutch).
Ok I have one of them in stock

Nice. It's not the easiest to get at unless you have a lift. But doable on high axle stands I'd guess. Worth buying a pressure/power bleeder and you may as well bleed the whole brake system whilst you're there. Remember to hold the clutch pedal to the floor as you bleed it smile
Ok I have a pressure bleeder but never used it. It is something I have been meaning to have a go at which is why I bought it. How does one press the clutch pedal while twiddling with the bleed nips?

I've been thinking about some axle ramps. Would they get me high enough?

And I know the car is too low for them ... at the front. But reversing on would be fine - I hope?

barryrs

4,413 posts

225 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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I would think one of these should do the trick.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/325502866074?var=0&...

shalmaneser

5,941 posts

197 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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Get the car on axle stands and the clutch slave is not too bad to get to IMO. had to remove it to replace my gearbox and it was one of the easier bits of work, although the whole job wasn't bad at all really.

ATM

18,367 posts

221 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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shalmaneser said:
Get the car on axle stands and the clutch slave is not too bad to get to IMO. had to remove it to replace my gearbox and it was one of the easier bits of work, although the whole job wasn't bad at all really.
Axle Stands on the rear jacking points? I only own 2 Axle Stands - 1 pair.

shalmaneser

5,941 posts

197 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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Yeah, raise it from the jacking point on the engine. You do have do go under a fair old distance and reach up a longish way, make sure you have a decent work light.

Stubby ratchet needed for the 13mm bolts

Rich_

1,963 posts

206 months

Monday 13th November 2023
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ATM said:
Rich_ said:
ATM said:
Rich_ said:
Sounds like the clutch slave is on its way out. Has it been replaced at all? Any fluid on the ground? If not , possible its leaking into the bell housing. Check your brake fluid reservoir, is it low? (its the same reservoir for the clutch).
Ok I have one of them in stock

Nice. It's not the easiest to get at unless you have a lift. But doable on high axle stands I'd guess. Worth buying a pressure/power bleeder and you may as well bleed the whole brake system whilst you're there. Remember to hold the clutch pedal to the floor as you bleed it smile
Ok I have a pressure bleeder but never used it. It is something I have been meaning to have a go at which is why I bought it. How does one press the clutch pedal while twiddling with the bleed nips?

I've been thinking about some axle ramps. Would they get me high enough?

And I know the car is too low for them ... at the front. But reversing on would be fine - I hope?
I used a piece of wood, wrapped in a cloth at one end jammed against the seat to push the pedal down. or use a pole or something similar.


or this:

barryrs said:
I would think one of these should do the trick.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/325502866074?var=0&...
Edited by Rich_ on Monday 13th November 15:09

nunpuncher

3,397 posts

127 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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Not sure if it'll work on a 996 as it's no doubt more complicated than it needs to be.

Last time I did a slave cylinder I gave it a basic bleed by sticking a hose on the bleed valve going in to some fluid in a plastic bottle with a small leather hole cut. That way it's a 1 man job and prevents it sucking air back in when you pump the peddle. When I thought it was sufficiently bled I tightened the vale and left the car overnight with a piece of wood between the seat and the peddle holding the peddle to the floor with the reservoir cap off. Clutch was perfect the next day.

Slippydiff

14,902 posts

225 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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nunpuncher said:
Not sure if it'll work on a 996 as it's no doubt more complicated than it needs to be.

Last time I did a slave cylinder I gave it a basic bleed by sticking a hose on the bleed valve going in to some fluid in a plastic bottle with a small leather hole cut. That way it's a 1 man job and prevents it sucking air back in when you pump the peddle. When I thought it was sufficiently bled I tightened the vale and left the car overnight with a piece of wood between the seat and the peddle holding the peddle to the floor with the reservoir cap off. Clutch was perfect the next day.
Used these for years, they're excellent (though the black rubber pipe is past it's best and occasionally it came off the nipple which made for a mess)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sakura-Vizableed-NV16-Bra...

Now I put a small cable tie around the pipe when it's on the bleed nipple to ensure it stays in place.
Back the nipple off no more than 1/4 -1/2 turn and bleed away.

Swine Enthusiast

313 posts

106 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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I am longing for a 996 early car;

Saw this - https://www.ashleynickells.com/porsche-911-996-car... - thoughts?


ATM

18,367 posts

221 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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Swine Enthusiast said:
I am longing for a 996 early car;

Saw this - https://www.ashleynickells.com/porsche-911-996-car... - thoughts?
Bit short of info. All you really know is the mileage and the car has been ceramic coated. That's it.

The service history is a bit light from 2008 - so in 15 years basically it could have had just 4 oil changes.

03/12/2008 – 44088 miles – Porsche Centre Guildford
01/07/2013 – 47493 miles – Porsche Centre Portsmouth
05/02/2016 – 53980 miles – Porsche Centre Portsmouth
20/10/2020 – 56939 miles – Porsche Centre Portsmouth

This isnt necessarily a problem but its hardly a selling point. If you really want this colour scheme and you want 50ish thousand miles then maybe its a buy. Otherwise without inspecting this -

advertBlurb said:
Accompanying the history file are stacks of previous invoices, MOT’s and receipts to substantiate the meticulous care this car has received over the last 25 years' mentioned
You have no idea what you are buying.

You want to see things like Clutch, Flywheel, Clutch pipe, Water pipes, AC pipes, PAS pipes, Brake pipes, Suspension bits, Alternator, Starter, window regulators, door latches etc etc. Otherwise this will all start failing in short order if they are original. That's before we start talking about a rusty underside.

Now obviously you will never find a car for sale with all of these jobs done - I dont think they exist - but some of these done is better than none.

The people here who have recently given up on early 996 ownership have ran into lots of these problems head on and then walked away. Ideally we dont want this to happen to You.