what is an 'early' 3.4 996?

[youngsyr]

Pflanzgarten said:

RTPT said:

Apologies if this has been posted already, but it appears the Cat C Zanzibar is now on eBay.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/325877609996

That st-box has been on eBay off and on for at least two years now, possibly three.

The shut lines on the rear of it look all wrong?

[Ed.Neumann]

And a different colour on the lid too.

[youngsyr]

Ed.Neumann said:

And a different colour on the lid too.

I think that's just the filter/post editing? The colours in the pictures on eBay have been heavily messed around with.

[ATM]

RTPT said:

Apologies if this has been posted already, but it appears the Cat C Zanzibar is now on eBay.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/325877609996

Yeah has been on and off for months. I want to say 12 months but who knows.

[ATM]

Pflanzgarten said:

RTPT said:

Apologies if this has been posted already, but it appears the Cat C Zanzibar is now on eBay.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/325877609996

That st-box has been on eBay off and on for at least two years now, possibly three.

Ok I see others have beat me to it.

[ATM]

ATM said:

ATM said:

ATM said:

Red Alert

3.7

28 grand

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/256166412197

Now

26 grand

Showing as sold now

Was sold around 15th September

Looks like the same dealer has it back and its 28 again ... for now

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/256303585296

[Mr Whippy]

How much is it for an IMS job these days? At a decent ish indy (RPM near Harrogate seems closest to me)

I assume other jobs can be tagged on at the time? Ie, Rms? And then clutch?

Just wondering what to budget on top of a 996 C4S for covering off the main “common” fault (appreciate there are tons of other jobs but most just common for any older car)

[Bogsye]

ATM said:

Was sold around 15th September

Looks like the same dealer has it back and its 28 again ... for now

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/256303585296

I had a brief look at this. I actually went to have a closer look at the silver aero kit car, which I was interested in. It was a useful exercise to see what your money gets.

[ATM]

Mr Whippy said:

How much is it for an IMS job these days? At a decent ish indy (RPM near Harrogate seems closest to me)

I assume other jobs can be tagged on at the time? Ie, Rms? And then clutch?

Just wondering what to budget on top of a 996 C4S for covering off the main “common” fault (appreciate there are tons of other jobs but most just common for any older car)

I'm just guessing here

It's basically behind the clutch so the gearbox needs to come out as if changing the clutch. Then the clutch and flywheel are removed. Then you can access the bearing. It's probably pointless removing to inspect and then refitting as you might as well fit new. I'd guess the bearing is cheap unless buying some fancy oil fed upgraded version. Main expense will be labour. I think about 8 hours or if paying 100 / hour then 800 quid should cover it. In that ball park.

Obviously if also replacing the clutch and flywheel they're probably around 3 or 400 quid for the clutch and 6 or 700 for the flywheel - sometimes you dont need a new flywheel.

Getting new brake pipes over the gearbox is a good idea while the box is out. Especially if car is knocking on for 20 years old.

Gearbox mount at the end of the box is probably cheap as chips too. I'd guess 50 quid. Old can be pressed out and new pressed in.

[Chris Stott]

Mr Whippy said:

How much is it for an IMS job these days? At a decent ish indy (RPM near Harrogate seems closest to me)

I assume other jobs can be tagged on at the time? Ie, Rms? And then clutch?

Just wondering what to budget on top of a 996 C4S for covering off the main “common” fault (appreciate there are tons of other jobs but most just common for any older car)

Why are you replacing the IMS?

I don’t know of a car that’s suffered a failure in recent years.

[Mr Whippy]

I’m perhaps confusing things here, but I thought IMS was the big issue on these engines? (3.6?)

Then weepy RMS/clutch contamination?


Or are all these just rarities?

[shalmaneser]

Mr Whippy said:

I’m perhaps confusing things here, but I thought IMS was the big issue on these engines? (3.6?)

Then weepy RMS/clutch contamination?


Or are all these just rarities?

Big issue with the 3.6 is bore score. No fix for that outside of a rebuild. IMS is a bigger issue on the 3.6 than the 3.4 and can be replaced as a service item.

You should insist on a bore scope if you're getting a 3.6 although lack of evidence doesn't mean it won't happen down the line at some point. A tick when idling and oil consumption is the tell tale outside of direct evidence via imaging.

RMS is a bit of a non issue unless it's pissing oil out of the bell housing, most major issues here will have been dealt with and you'll be lucky to find a 20 year old Porsche without the odd oil weep.

[Mr Whippy]

OK so just a decent inspection should do.

Seems sensible on a £30k ish C4S, hypothetically speaking.

[was8v]

I did the IMS bearing inspection on my 996, wouldn't bother if it didn't need a clutch.

Gearbox off, new clutch and fly (sachs/luk)

New lemforder gearbox mount smashed in

New RMS to replace leaking one

Took IMS bearing cover off and span it, silky smooth. Whipped end seal off IMS bearing to increase oil volume.

Re-sealed IMS bearing cover as that was leaking more than the RMS

New brake line over gearbox - bent up some kunifer

All new clutch fork release arm pivot with 997 part (delete creaks)

Would only add a couple of hours to a clutch job, and its do-able on your driveway in the snow as I did.

IMS bearing as with poor castings is a non issue these days. 996 are well out of the "infant mortality" phase and well into the "wear out" phase of the bathtub curve.

[Pflanzgarten]

How's about this then?!

https://themarket.bonhams.com/en/listings/porsche/...

Those seats, if genuine (no Porsche crest?) are worth a good chunk by themselves, interesting to see what the details are once the full advert goes up.

Edited by Pflanzgarten on Thursday 23 November 20:21

[youngsyr]

What is it? A stripped out, aero kitted, early C4?

[ATM]

This is a strange picture to include

[Cleanhands]

I wonder what horrors those side skirts are hiding, also, what happened to the interior. Very strange.

[WojaWabbit]

Sold on the same site for £20k in 2021.

[ATM]

Cleanhands said:

I wonder what horrors those side skirts are hiding

Hey you leave us aero boys alone