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GT3RS ANIMAL said:
FASTANDLOOSE said:
Hi all, many interesting comments on here, some bang on and many way off so here's why I didn't keep my RS...
Firstly I consider myself extremely lucky to have been given an allocation and my plan was to track the hell out of it, just like my previous GT cars, and enjoy the ultimate 911 experiance and the closest thing you could get to a street legal Cup race car but road legal. Porsche Preston, who I have been doing events and trackdays with for a couple of years now were fabulous. There was never a suggestion of me giving the car back to them, splitting a profit or anything at all underhand. They were happy for me to have the car and enjoy it and whilst I don't deny that some OPC's have been far less honest, I had no such discussions with Preston at all. The car should have arrived in March '23 but was delayed due to supply chain issues meaning I didn't finally take delivery until September. In the meantime and so as not to miss all summer's events I purchased a used GT3 from Preston and had the full Manthey kit installed. I paid a considerable premium over list for the car as this was the norm at the time and I needed a car for the events I had in my diary.
By the time the RS was ready for collection I had already had first hand experiance of driving two RS cars on track whilst at the same time absolutely loving my GT3 MR. I have always self insured my car on trackdays but with values close to £400k at the time I would have been a fool not to insure my RS for track use. Quotes were almost impossible to get and when I did obtain one it was £2,600 per day... It was also impossible to get the fastest tyres, Michelin Cup 2 R tyres which were unavailable at the time. I would also have slashed the value of the car by heavy track use and for what...? Just to show off I had the latest toy? The RS is not significantly faster, better than my GT3 MR and on standard tyres against my GT3 MR on Cup 2 R tyres, it's no faster at all. I also found some of the added technology on the RS very 'gimmiky' and not to my liking. Add in the impracticality of it and the fact my GT3 MR has now lost approx £50k in value and it made no financial or performance reason to keep the RS. I think the actual cost of running an RS on track is why they are mostly seen at coffee mornings and car meets as you need to be seriously wealthy to run an RS on track, tyres, insurance, depreciation etc and I sadly am not in that bracket. To all those that say these cars should be sold to enthusiasts who will use them I would say the ordinary person couldn't and wouldn't track it until such time as values come down to previous GT levels of premium.
So, the final part of the story is that I explained to Preston my thinking and they were good enough to buy the car back from me. It is not being sold for a profit split or so I get another allocation or any such deal. I did not take the car to Tom Hartley or similar as I felt it should go back to the supplying OPC to sell to the next keeper. Yes I made a profit on the car but this will only offset some of the losses I have incurred on previous Porsche's I have owned and on my current GT3.
I hope this goes some way to explaining why I sold the RS. I will carry on enjoying my GT3 MR this year as quite frankly it's as fast as I ever need to go on track, practical, good looking and I can also enjoy it on the road without standing out like a sore thumb.
Cheers, Tim Harvey.
Firstly I consider myself extremely lucky to have been given an allocation and my plan was to track the hell out of it, just like my previous GT cars, and enjoy the ultimate 911 experiance and the closest thing you could get to a street legal Cup race car but road legal. Porsche Preston, who I have been doing events and trackdays with for a couple of years now were fabulous. There was never a suggestion of me giving the car back to them, splitting a profit or anything at all underhand. They were happy for me to have the car and enjoy it and whilst I don't deny that some OPC's have been far less honest, I had no such discussions with Preston at all. The car should have arrived in March '23 but was delayed due to supply chain issues meaning I didn't finally take delivery until September. In the meantime and so as not to miss all summer's events I purchased a used GT3 from Preston and had the full Manthey kit installed. I paid a considerable premium over list for the car as this was the norm at the time and I needed a car for the events I had in my diary.
By the time the RS was ready for collection I had already had first hand experiance of driving two RS cars on track whilst at the same time absolutely loving my GT3 MR. I have always self insured my car on trackdays but with values close to £400k at the time I would have been a fool not to insure my RS for track use. Quotes were almost impossible to get and when I did obtain one it was £2,600 per day... It was also impossible to get the fastest tyres, Michelin Cup 2 R tyres which were unavailable at the time. I would also have slashed the value of the car by heavy track use and for what...? Just to show off I had the latest toy? The RS is not significantly faster, better than my GT3 MR and on standard tyres against my GT3 MR on Cup 2 R tyres, it's no faster at all. I also found some of the added technology on the RS very 'gimmiky' and not to my liking. Add in the impracticality of it and the fact my GT3 MR has now lost approx £50k in value and it made no financial or performance reason to keep the RS. I think the actual cost of running an RS on track is why they are mostly seen at coffee mornings and car meets as you need to be seriously wealthy to run an RS on track, tyres, insurance, depreciation etc and I sadly am not in that bracket. To all those that say these cars should be sold to enthusiasts who will use them I would say the ordinary person couldn't and wouldn't track it until such time as values come down to previous GT levels of premium.
So, the final part of the story is that I explained to Preston my thinking and they were good enough to buy the car back from me. It is not being sold for a profit split or so I get another allocation or any such deal. I did not take the car to Tom Hartley or similar as I felt it should go back to the supplying OPC to sell to the next keeper. Yes I made a profit on the car but this will only offset some of the losses I have incurred on previous Porsche's I have owned and on my current GT3.
I hope this goes some way to explaining why I sold the RS. I will carry on enjoying my GT3 MR this year as quite frankly it's as fast as I ever need to go on track, practical, good looking and I can also enjoy it on the road without standing out like a sore thumb.
Cheers, Tim Harvey.
You flipped it for the money simple
Your first response was ill health now you come out with this
Was it can’t get tyres ?
trying insure your car for 400k when you give 250k
You would always be up anyway an saying mopping up ye 50k loss mate your car was doin big doe still when you handed that back your a joke an so is Porsche Preston waste of a car an it’s still sat there haha dropped 48k someone was meant to make doe is what it is in my eyes big Tim you r a flipper an a greedy man hope to see you at a track day an tell you to your face
Edited by GT3RS ANIMAL on Friday 19th January 21:46
GT3RS ANIMAL said:
Mr animal……..
No threats mate……….
Just the truth coming on here like he a victim…………
Assume you have one of these cars yourself. Your certainty as to the facts here is impressive since you have just arrived.No threats mate……….
Just the truth coming on here like he a victim…………
I think the reasoning of the OP here is quite valid. We all make decisions on keeping or moving a car onward. I made a big mistake when I sold my 7.2RS, but in truth I needed the garage space to for the 991RS at the time. People have multiple reasons to make decisions.
GT3RS ANIMAL said:
You flipped it for the money simple
Your first response was ill health now you come out with this
Was it can’t get tyres ?
trying insure your car for 400k when you give 250k
You would always be up anyway an saying mopping up ye 50k loss mate your car was doin big doe still when you handed that back your a joke an so is Porsche Preston waste of a car an it’s still sat there haha dropped 48k someone was meant to make doe is what it is in my eyes big Tim you r a flipper an a greedy man hope to see you at a track day an tell you to your face
Edited by GT3RS ANIMAL on Friday 19th January 21:46
What trackdays have you got booked this year?
ChrisW. said:
Which is why you created a new ID to be completely unaccountable ... the silent but deadly that will hopefully not linger ...
He know who I am we been Anglesey trackday with Porsche Preston my name is Chris wright from Liverpool why would I be bothered.
I had to setup new id to comment on this post cause I haven’t been on here for years.
Do you want my phone number haha
At least Fastandloose sold the car back to his supplying dealer so he maintained his position with them...it was his car & he could do with it what he wanted in theory. He was in the fortunate position to get a car as well as owning a GT3 MR already. Continuing enjoying your GT3 MR Fastandloose and please post up pictures of your adventures 
MrC986 said:
At least Fastandloose sold the car back to his supplying dealer so he maintained his position with them...it was his car & he could do with it what he wanted in theory. He was in the fortunate position to get a car as well as owning a GT3 MR already. Continuing enjoying your GT3 MR Fastandloose and please post up pictures of your adventures
At least he’s supporting his local OPC.Pistonheads is at its best when the grammar police arrive.
I wonder if Preston just love a celebrity? Was it them who sold one to Tyson Fury?
Closer to Mr Animals home I was told Tommy Fleetwood ordered one and Porsche UK paid the bill. PGA golfers renowned for being a bit skint.
At least Fastandloose loves a trackday and is a clear enthusiast, even if the state of the new rs market tipped him over the edge.
The whole thing is always going to piss a few people off. Myself included, I have to admit.
I’m certain I’d track one if I could though. I’d also insure it for what it cost me, not what the fairies told me it’s worth.
I wonder if Preston just love a celebrity? Was it them who sold one to Tyson Fury?
Closer to Mr Animals home I was told Tommy Fleetwood ordered one and Porsche UK paid the bill. PGA golfers renowned for being a bit skint.
At least Fastandloose loves a trackday and is a clear enthusiast, even if the state of the new rs market tipped him over the edge.
The whole thing is always going to piss a few people off. Myself included, I have to admit.
I’m certain I’d track one if I could though. I’d also insure it for what it cost me, not what the fairies told me it’s worth.
subirg said:
On the topic of GT3 RS (current) values - why would someone buy these at flipper prices instead of a GT2 RS? Is it just the desire to be seen with the latest and greatest?
I had been thinking the same, seems a 2RS is fish and chip paper nowadays..I believe in time the 991 2RS will be appreciated
Deansfield said:
ChrisW. said:
Which is why you created a new ID to be completely unaccountable ... the silent but deadly that will hopefully not linger ...
Or at least until he has a bit of a grasp of our language Maybe we just dial this back to 9 or 10?
Anyway I saw pics of MN’s new white & blue RS on the ‘gram yesterday. A tribute to his 996 RS of the same colours. I really do love the look of these things.
As to the question/comparison with the 991.2 GT2 RS, I don’t think they are directly comparable. Two very different sledgehammers, both capable of cracking nuts.
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