gt3 ...138 cars for sale !!!!
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Taffy66 said:
I'll have the bumper off so it seems a wasted opportunity not to fit a BMC air filter..Not 100% sure if there is a genuine benefit on the filter or is it a placebo effect..Some say that the K&N is just as good as the BMC only cheaper although not OEM on the RS.
Do BMC and keep it oem RS :-) good deals today on those parts I paid £110+ vat oem was £350 RRP !paper filters are ok NEW just reduce flow very quick when dirty.
feel good factor any way :-)
I had a look on autotrader yesterday and saw a car at about £147 k
the advert stated that this was our last chance to buy this car or else he was going to pack it up and mothball it until spring!
I think it's an example of someone wanting to have their cake and eat it comma thinks he deserves to have free motoring somehow and someone else will pick up the tab... This is no God given right I'm afraid you have to pay for your motoring these days.. the few who can enjoy a bit of free motoring are becoming fewer. Most people who can afford these cars probably aren't stupid, for the obvious reasons...but then most people who can afford to buy their car aren't either, especially when they see the prices coming down even though some people will insist that that is not happening, even though IS before our very eyes.
obviously if someone wants to sell that car they are going to sell it before Christmas I guarantee to the highest bidder. They are not going to put it back in a garage till spring. he probably has a house extension that his promise to his wife starting in early January and needs the cash for that ! He may have said to her that he will have free motoring and will probably make some money on it...
What we are seeing here is quite reasonable. They are making more cars and the prices are decreasing slightly I don't see why there is even a debate about that...
the advert stated that this was our last chance to buy this car or else he was going to pack it up and mothball it until spring!
I think it's an example of someone wanting to have their cake and eat it comma thinks he deserves to have free motoring somehow and someone else will pick up the tab... This is no God given right I'm afraid you have to pay for your motoring these days.. the few who can enjoy a bit of free motoring are becoming fewer. Most people who can afford these cars probably aren't stupid, for the obvious reasons...but then most people who can afford to buy their car aren't either, especially when they see the prices coming down even though some people will insist that that is not happening, even though IS before our very eyes.
obviously if someone wants to sell that car they are going to sell it before Christmas I guarantee to the highest bidder. They are not going to put it back in a garage till spring. he probably has a house extension that his promise to his wife starting in early January and needs the cash for that ! He may have said to her that he will have free motoring and will probably make some money on it...
What we are seeing here is quite reasonable. They are making more cars and the prices are decreasing slightly I don't see why there is even a debate about that...
Porsche911R said:
Taffy66 said:
Still awaiting delivery which is due any day..I also ordered the Titanium tips and am considering adding the Valved side muffler deletes..The total weight saving with all three parts is over 30Kg..I'm lucky as i live on a farm so no close neighbours to upset when i fire up..It'll still be quieter than a Lambo Performante IMO.
you will have big smiles, not sure you need side bits, it's a big difference. Don't forget to do the 991.2 GT3 RS filters while you have the rear off :-)total weight 3.6lbs lol it's amazing
if you are doing it your self give me a bell.
Edited by Porsche911R on Saturday 24th November 11:20
[quote=angussampson]I had a look on autotrader yesterday and saw a car at about £147 k
the advert stated that this was our last chance to buy this car or else he was going to pack it up and mothball it until spring!
Noticed this add yesterday.
The seller comes across as a proper idiot, like he is doing the public a service by placing his car for sale and then almost chastising everyone for not taking up his offer
Put me right off!
the advert stated that this was our last chance to buy this car or else he was going to pack it up and mothball it until spring!
Noticed this add yesterday.
The seller comes across as a proper idiot, like he is doing the public a service by placing his car for sale and then almost chastising everyone for not taking up his offer
Put me right off!
angussampson said:
Can any of the owners contributing to this thread who have sold or bought cards recently give us the first-hand information then rather than people standing here say about .
JUNO , I congratulate you for leaving your life and driving the car you want to drive and not being worried about losing a bit of money 10 or 20 here or there (possibly)and as you said with the recent losses of friends, I guess it may be easier to reconcile yourself to doing that ?
Can you tell us how much you sold your car for ( the SOLD GONE GONE GONE) car for and how much you paid for your current one ?
Did they take the car in part exchange , on your new one or did they broker it for you ?
As you seem a well known and respected member of this community (!) You can help put some real meaning to the prices in this quite lengthy thread !
Thanks
I’d rather not be 100% specific posting invoices etc as there are other people involved and as we all know some politics!JUNO , I congratulate you for leaving your life and driving the car you want to drive and not being worried about losing a bit of money 10 or 20 here or there (possibly)and as you said with the recent losses of friends, I guess it may be easier to reconcile yourself to doing that ?
Can you tell us how much you sold your car for ( the SOLD GONE GONE GONE) car for and how much you paid for your current one ?
Did they take the car in part exchange , on your new one or did they broker it for you ?
As you seem a well known and respected member of this community (!) You can help put some real meaning to the prices in this quite lengthy thread !
Thanks
However that said I can tell you as a matter of FACT that .2 GT3’s are selling at just below and just over £150K subject to spec,winged versions!
The car I bought didn’t even make it to being advertised,I got a call to say “I think we might be getting a car you would like” My old car was taken in P/ex no issues at all,they were keen to have it to retail and did. There are many GT cars sold in this way, dealers have data bases of people looking for specific cars,people just like me! Don’t think only cars you see advertised are the only cars moving in the market place, there’s a wider World out there!
And
My non Club Sport 2013 .1 car was sold in a week at mid 100 teens. So if a five year old GT3 sells in a week at this level then I think it will be a long wait to see a good spec .2 at less than £130K, even adding 20K on top of the price of my old car still puts the figure at 135K for a .2 I’m not talking p/ex figures here I’m just saying if you value a .2 at 20k more than a .1 sold price that’s the minimum number you are at. I actually think that that number is also more than 20k currently, hence why cars are at £150k levels.
Also a point to consider is 992 GT3 prices are likely to be £10k higher than current GT3’s, that’s if they make one.
More people are looking for PDK cars rather than manuals at OPC’s, PH is only a small part of what happens in the real World.
The dealer group I use have very few and often no GT cars as they just can’t buy the stock, there appears to be no panic selling.
Some who are selling via OPC’s are simply taking some profit and holding for higher numbers or keeping in with their OPC in hope that more GT cars will follow.
I hope that helps put some real World light on the situation.
Also would you believe I just sold My classic Subaru P1 and the advert said “Priced to sell before Christmas or I’ll wrap it up to spring” I was serious and it did sell.
In the meantime happy motoring
GT4RS said:
fridaypassion said:
If the market goes the same way for the .2 that's buy at 147k and it depreciates to about 105k over 4 years. That sounds like a crap buy to me but that's the GT car overs market for you.
There’s a good video explaining this on youtube and that’s the loss you will have before you really drive the thing. Drive it and it will be even more painful due these cars becoming mileage sensitive, such a shame a lot of these cars are rarely used. My .1 car just sold in a week at circa £115k and that's a five year old car now, a 4 year old car with a 4.0 is going to be worth considerably more pro rata than my .1 car today so that puts it in the 120-125k bracket in 4 years.
Phooey said:
av185 said:
Phooey said:
Manuals are getting cheaper. I looked earlier and there was a Guards red 499 mile car with PCCBs for £150k at an OPC. List inc OTR costs must of been about £132k. Agree with you though - good time to buy.
Edinburgh OPC. It is £152500.List £125k.
£27500 premium.
Black Friday deal - circa £15000 premium?
If I was in the market I think I would pay £15k premium for a 499 mile car.
Oh Dear
Looking closer at this spec you can tell it was a flippers car from the off.
The owner has gone for the Club Sport,PCCB's and manual but opted to fit for s
t lights and no lift saving circa £4k but wants the money of a well specked car.IMO if your spending close to £150k you want what you want,I won't compromise at this level on must have options no matter what the price!!!
Edited by Juno on Saturday 24th November 16:08
MDL111 said:
I’d rather not have Lift - just more weight and another part to break. No need for it imo
I use it all the time,getting in and out of my home,petrol stations,car parks and if it didn't have it I couldn't have got from the dealership home coming through London without loosing half of the cars underside. Also the GT3 brake cooling ducts are lower than the front lip so don't let the lip fool you into believing that is the lowest part of the car,it's a good inch lower
Juno said:
Phooey said:
av185 said:
Phooey said:
Manuals are getting cheaper. I looked earlier and there was a Guards red 499 mile car with PCCBs for £150k at an OPC. List inc OTR costs must of been about £132k. Agree with you though - good time to buy.
Edinburgh OPC. It is £152500.List £125k.
£27500 premium.
Black Friday deal - circa £15000 premium?
If I was in the market I think I would pay £15k premium for a 499 mile car.
Oh Dear
Looking closer at this spec you can tell it was a flippers car from the off.
The owner has gone for the Club Sport,PCCB's and manual but opted to fit for s
t lights and no lift saving circa £4k but wants the money of a well specked car.IMO if your spending close to £150k you want what you want,I won't compromise at this level on must have options no matter what the price!!!
Edited by Juno on Saturday 24th November 16:08
Most buyers want lift.
One of the first flipped cars was a GTS clubsport at Redline with full spec EXCEPT front lift. This was the reason it took around 2 months to sell. Started at £185k sold for top £170ks.
Juno said:
MDL111 said:
I’d rather not have Lift - just more weight and another part to break. No need for it imo
I use it all the time,getting in and out of my home,petrol stations,car parks and if it didn't have it I couldn't have got from the dealership home coming through London without loosing half of the cars underside. Also the GT3 brake cooling ducts are lower than the front lip so don't let the lip fool you into believing that is the lowest part of the car,it's a good inch lower
As MDL111 says - no need for lift. I've had a non-lift car 991.2 (and 997.1). My mate has had 4 all without lift (997.2RS x 2, 991.1 GT3 and 991.1 RS). I know lads that have cars with lift that don't use it. Sounds like you guys are getting all wet around the ears about the non-damaging innocent plastic flappy thing in front of the wheel that you hear scuff over some speed humps etc. Lift is only needed for certain applications. I (and probably 99% of us) never venture into situations where without lift you'll rip your splitter off. It's not hard, but there is a simple skill to taking speed humps in a low car. Save your money, weight, and potential things to go wrong (which incidentally it did in my 997.1).
FWIW, my GT4 made more scuffing noises than my 991.2 GT3.
FWIW2, I'm now driving a Cayenne with LED headlights. Yes they look pretty, but I wouldn't say they are any, or much better than the PDSL lights on my previous Cayenne.
It's all bks guys. You need to stop reading the glossy brochures 
FWIW, my GT4 made more scuffing noises than my 991.2 GT3.
FWIW2, I'm now driving a Cayenne with LED headlights. Yes they look pretty, but I wouldn't say they are any, or much better than the PDSL lights on my previous Cayenne.
It's all b
ks guys. You need to stop reading the glossy brochures Phooey said:
As MDL111 says - no need for lift. I've had a non-lift car 991.2 (and 997.1). My mate has had 4 all without lift (997.2RS x 2, 991.1 GT3 and 991.1 RS). I know lads that have cars with lift that don't use it. Sounds like you guys are getting all wet around the ears about the non-damaging innocent plastic flappy thing in front of the wheel that you hear scuff over some speed humps etc. Lift is only needed for certain applications. I (and probably 99% of us) never venture into situations where without lift you'll rip your splitter off. It's not hard, but there is a simple skill to taking speed humps in a low car. Save your money, weight, and potential things to go wrong (which incidentally it did in my 997.1).
FWIW, my GT4 made more scuffing noises than my 991.2 GT3.
FWIW2, I'm now driving a Cayenne with LED headlights. Yes they look pretty, but I wouldn't say they are any, or much better than the PDSL lights on my previous Cayenne.
It's all bks guys. You need to stop reading the glossy brochures
Agreed , 997 3.8 RS, 991RS and CGT with nearly 40k miles and never needed it. Lowest points on all these cars are plastic and sacrificial, adds mass and complexity ignoring it seems now for current models resale it’s a good thing, I’d still spec without.FWIW, my GT4 made more scuffing noises than my 991.2 GT3.
FWIW2, I'm now driving a Cayenne with LED headlights. Yes they look pretty, but I wouldn't say they are any, or much better than the PDSL lights on my previous Cayenne.
It's all b
ks guys. You need to stop reading the glossy brochures 
MDL111 said:
Never worried me, my 997 GT2 survived fine in London and other cities as did my 355. Just scratches and crunches a bit when going over stuff.
I can count the number of times I used the front lifter on my 7.2rs and I live in central ish London. went out of the way to look for a car with lift when I bought it, never would bother again and actively would want a non lift car. And the standard lights than led actually too.Gassing Station | 911/Carrera GT | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff