Discussion
Digga said:
Only just caught up with this thread. Quite the entrance to a forum; barely inside the door and they’ve got their coat off, ready for a fight.
Maybe we just dial this back to 9 or 10?
Anyway I saw pics of MN’s new white & blue RS on the ‘gram yesterday. A tribute to his 996 RS of the same colours. I really do love the look of these things.
As to the question/comparison with the 991.2 GT2 RS, I don’t think they are directly comparable. Two very different sledgehammers, both capable of cracking nuts.
Gt2 still the daddy,nothing from porsche lately has touched this yet.Maybe we just dial this back to 9 or 10?
Anyway I saw pics of MN’s new white & blue RS on the ‘gram yesterday. A tribute to his 996 RS of the same colours. I really do love the look of these things.
As to the question/comparison with the 991.2 GT2 RS, I don’t think they are directly comparable. Two very different sledgehammers, both capable of cracking nuts.
Who or what is MN
I am surprised that Tim bothered to explain anything on here,or if he actually wrote it,its non of anybody business,he is a nice chap and good of him if he offset some of his losses from the opc sharks,no crime in that.
Yellow491 said:
Digga said:
Only just caught up with this thread. Quite the entrance to a forum; barely inside the door and they’ve got their coat off, ready for a fight.
Maybe we just dial this back to 9 or 10?
Anyway I saw pics of MN’s new white & blue RS on the ‘gram yesterday. A tribute to his 996 RS of the same colours. I really do love the look of these things.
As to the question/comparison with the 991.2 GT2 RS, I don’t think they are directly comparable. Two very different sledgehammers, both capable of cracking nuts.
Gt2 still the daddy,nothing from porsche lately has touched this yet.Maybe we just dial this back to 9 or 10?
Anyway I saw pics of MN’s new white & blue RS on the ‘gram yesterday. A tribute to his 996 RS of the same colours. I really do love the look of these things.
As to the question/comparison with the 991.2 GT2 RS, I don’t think they are directly comparable. Two very different sledgehammers, both capable of cracking nuts.
Who or what is MN
I am surprised that Tim bothered to explain anything on here,or if he actually wrote it,its non of anybody business,he is a nice chap and good of him if he offset some of his losses from the opc sharks,no crime in that.
GT3RS ANIMAL said:
FASTANDLOOSE said:
Hi all, many interesting comments on here, some bang on and many way off so here's why I didn't keep my RS...
Firstly I consider myself extremely lucky to have been given an allocation and my plan was to track the hell out of it, just like my previous GT cars, and enjoy the ultimate 911 experiance and the closest thing you could get to a street legal Cup race car but road legal. Porsche Preston, who I have been doing events and trackdays with for a couple of years now were fabulous. There was never a suggestion of me giving the car back to them, splitting a profit or anything at all underhand. They were happy for me to have the car and enjoy it and whilst I don't deny that some OPC's have been far less honest, I had no such discussions with Preston at all. The car should have arrived in March '23 but was delayed due to supply chain issues meaning I didn't finally take delivery until September. In the meantime and so as not to miss all summer's events I purchased a used GT3 from Preston and had the full Manthey kit installed. I paid a considerable premium over list for the car as this was the norm at the time and I needed a car for the events I had in my diary.
By the time the RS was ready for collection I had already had first hand experiance of driving two RS cars on track whilst at the same time absolutely loving my GT3 MR. I have always self insured my car on trackdays but with values close to £400k at the time I would have been a fool not to insure my RS for track use. Quotes were almost impossible to get and when I did obtain one it was £2,600 per day... It was also impossible to get the fastest tyres, Michelin Cup 2 R tyres which were unavailable at the time. I would also have slashed the value of the car by heavy track use and for what...? Just to show off I had the latest toy? The RS is not significantly faster, better than my GT3 MR and on standard tyres against my GT3 MR on Cup 2 R tyres, it's no faster at all. I also found some of the added technology on the RS very 'gimmiky' and not to my liking. Add in the impracticality of it and the fact my GT3 MR has now lost approx £50k in value and it made no financial or performance reason to keep the RS. I think the actual cost of running an RS on track is why they are mostly seen at coffee mornings and car meets as you need to be seriously wealthy to run an RS on track, tyres, insurance, depreciation etc and I sadly am not in that bracket. To all those that say these cars should be sold to enthusiasts who will use them I would say the ordinary person couldn't and wouldn't track it until such time as values come down to previous GT levels of premium.
So, the final part of the story is that I explained to Preston my thinking and they were good enough to buy the car back from me. It is not being sold for a profit split or so I get another allocation or any such deal. I did not take the car to Tom Hartley or similar as I felt it should go back to the supplying OPC to sell to the next keeper. Yes I made a profit on the car but this will only offset some of the losses I have incurred on previous Porsche's I have owned and on my current GT3.
I hope this goes some way to explaining why I sold the RS. I will carry on enjoying my GT3 MR this year as quite frankly it's as fast as I ever need to go on track, practical, good looking and I can also enjoy it on the road without standing out like a sore thumb.
Cheers, Tim Harvey.
Firstly I consider myself extremely lucky to have been given an allocation and my plan was to track the hell out of it, just like my previous GT cars, and enjoy the ultimate 911 experiance and the closest thing you could get to a street legal Cup race car but road legal. Porsche Preston, who I have been doing events and trackdays with for a couple of years now were fabulous. There was never a suggestion of me giving the car back to them, splitting a profit or anything at all underhand. They were happy for me to have the car and enjoy it and whilst I don't deny that some OPC's have been far less honest, I had no such discussions with Preston at all. The car should have arrived in March '23 but was delayed due to supply chain issues meaning I didn't finally take delivery until September. In the meantime and so as not to miss all summer's events I purchased a used GT3 from Preston and had the full Manthey kit installed. I paid a considerable premium over list for the car as this was the norm at the time and I needed a car for the events I had in my diary.
By the time the RS was ready for collection I had already had first hand experiance of driving two RS cars on track whilst at the same time absolutely loving my GT3 MR. I have always self insured my car on trackdays but with values close to £400k at the time I would have been a fool not to insure my RS for track use. Quotes were almost impossible to get and when I did obtain one it was £2,600 per day... It was also impossible to get the fastest tyres, Michelin Cup 2 R tyres which were unavailable at the time. I would also have slashed the value of the car by heavy track use and for what...? Just to show off I had the latest toy? The RS is not significantly faster, better than my GT3 MR and on standard tyres against my GT3 MR on Cup 2 R tyres, it's no faster at all. I also found some of the added technology on the RS very 'gimmiky' and not to my liking. Add in the impracticality of it and the fact my GT3 MR has now lost approx £50k in value and it made no financial or performance reason to keep the RS. I think the actual cost of running an RS on track is why they are mostly seen at coffee mornings and car meets as you need to be seriously wealthy to run an RS on track, tyres, insurance, depreciation etc and I sadly am not in that bracket. To all those that say these cars should be sold to enthusiasts who will use them I would say the ordinary person couldn't and wouldn't track it until such time as values come down to previous GT levels of premium.
So, the final part of the story is that I explained to Preston my thinking and they were good enough to buy the car back from me. It is not being sold for a profit split or so I get another allocation or any such deal. I did not take the car to Tom Hartley or similar as I felt it should go back to the supplying OPC to sell to the next keeper. Yes I made a profit on the car but this will only offset some of the losses I have incurred on previous Porsche's I have owned and on my current GT3.
I hope this goes some way to explaining why I sold the RS. I will carry on enjoying my GT3 MR this year as quite frankly it's as fast as I ever need to go on track, practical, good looking and I can also enjoy it on the road without standing out like a sore thumb.
Cheers, Tim Harvey.
You flipped it for the money simple
Your first response was ill health now you come out with this
Was it can’t get tyres ?
trying insure your car for 400k when you give 250k
You would always be up anyway an saying mopping up ye 50k loss mate your car was doin big doe still when you handed that back your a joke an so is Porsche Preston waste of a car an it’s still sat there haha dropped 48k someone was meant to make doe is what it is in my eyes big Tim you r a flipper an a greedy man hope to see you at a track day an tell you to your face
Edited by GT3RS ANIMAL on Friday 19th January 21:46
I would say is it half term already, but perhaps more he's jumped on his carer's computer.
Tom Jones messaged. Wants his chest wig and medalions back.rkwm1 said:
AndrewD said:
Probably a typo for MR?
No, heres the MR
I think the spotter has just confused a standard one as something else because of the paint job. A manual would be good though!
Tripe Bypass said:
I believe the red car is a Manthey car but testing suspension and brake upgrades, before they started testing the aero package.
Yes, they do have one in the Salzurg livery… as you say testing elements other than aero package. Camo car is evidently a full package car.
TDT said:
Remember how shocked people were when the McLaren Senna was launched and then especially the AMG GT Black, after it stole N’ring lap record from GT2 RS.
I said at the time… that was watershed and that Porsche would go no holds barred from that point onwards lol.
The senna is a great car for the track,glad i cancelled my order though.The big rear spoilers have become the twerp carsI said at the time… that was watershed and that Porsche would go no holds barred from that point onwards lol.
rs and senna great on track,but look a twerp in it on the road.As said the gt2 is still the daddy;)
TDT said:
Yes, they do have one in the Salzurg livery… as you say testing elements other than aero package.
Camo car is evidently a full package car.
That thing looks rapid. Incredible chassis control on the LH between Schwedenkreuz and Aremberg.Camo car is evidently a full package car.
Thought he was off at Karussell
and then realised they'd cut straight from Kesselschen to the kleines Karussell.Still don't think it sounds all that great in standard form, but I think it's not too difficult a job to remedy.
Digga said:
TDT said:
Yes, they do have one in the Salzurg livery… as you say testing elements other than aero package.
Camo car is evidently a full package car.
That thing looks rapid. Incredible chassis control on the LH between Schwedenkreuz and Aremberg.Camo car is evidently a full package car.
Thought he was off at Karussell
and then realised they'd cut straight from Kesselschen to the kleines Karussell.Still don't think it sounds all that great in standard form, but I think it's not too difficult a job to remedy.
Looks like the front was a bit fidgety in a couple of places.
I think we might see digga in one of these at some point;)
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