Discussion
BrotherMouzone said:
Knowing how much the owner paid for the car, I think the reserve would be a bit higher than that.
The market is the market. And unfortunately for the seller it’s no longer 2017-18 when 996 GT3s peaked. That said, it’s a good spec in a sought after colour and low miles so let’s see how she does. Personally I think the lack of C16 and possibly those seat inserts may count against it somewhat. Latter is easily sorted obvs.The yellow GT3 on collecting cars is mine as someone has pointed out. I am 64 and a true enthusiast. I have a small collection of cars and I have decided to go and live in the USA where my son and daughter live. I have already sold my Lancia Monte Carlo, the Rolls, X19 and my E30 M3. I have shipped my Alfa Spider over to the states for me to use. I bought the GT3 literally as an investment not to use. Because the car had lived in Cyprus and was a holiday vacation car to me was a real plus point. I have spent many trips to Nurburgring, Spa, Oukton Park etc and the GT3s are the Kings of most track days. My view on low mileage ones are if the mileage is genuine there is every chance most of the miles have been spent flat out on a track or more commonly they have been clocked! We all know how easy it is to have a digital odometer altered and lots do on cars like this because of the values, so being originally from an island in the sun to me was good news it came off the same production line as the UK ones but far more important was the ECU read out that the owner had in his folder as this shows the hours and rev ranges. Think about it how many Porches advertised for sale do you see with this in the advert?
I am not saying all GT3s have been fettled in this way but unless that data is available or the owner will allow you to have it read then walk away. I had the inserts changed to yellow leather but I can have them changed back to original at no cost to the buyer. Yes it's been in my garage a couple of years stood but it was fully serviced and looked over when I bought it and has done less than 500 miles or whatever since. I paid 65k for the car and the following year they were and a few still are at 79k. With emigrating the reserve is a lot lower than I paid so as the advert says my loss could be sometimes gain although I believe it's worth what I paid for it still today there isn't another for sale anywhere as good as this and being on the 06 plate makes it pretty unique. It's the right color in fantastic condition and the mileage is genuine and it's led a sheltered life! Darren at unique Porsche has just put on a new alternator and done a wheel alignment if you want an unbiased opinion of the car please ring him as this was only the 2nd time I have used him so their is no affiliation between us. Whoever buys this car I guarantee it will be free motoring with a big profit in a couple of years as naturally aspirated manual analogue cars like this in this condition will go through the roof.....mark my words I have been into cars like this for over 40 years if I wasn't moving I would never sell this car I would just have sat on it and waited.
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I am not saying all GT3s have been fettled in this way but unless that data is available or the owner will allow you to have it read then walk away. I had the inserts changed to yellow leather but I can have them changed back to original at no cost to the buyer. Yes it's been in my garage a couple of years stood but it was fully serviced and looked over when I bought it and has done less than 500 miles or whatever since. I paid 65k for the car and the following year they were and a few still are at 79k. With emigrating the reserve is a lot lower than I paid so as the advert says my loss could be sometimes gain although I believe it's worth what I paid for it still today there isn't another for sale anywhere as good as this and being on the 06 plate makes it pretty unique. It's the right color in fantastic condition and the mileage is genuine and it's led a sheltered life! Darren at unique Porsche has just put on a new alternator and done a wheel alignment if you want an unbiased opinion of the car please ring him as this was only the 2nd time I have used him so their is no affiliation between us. Whoever buys this car I guarantee it will be free motoring with a big profit in a couple of years as naturally aspirated manual analogue cars like this in this condition will go through the roof.....mark my words I have been into cars like this for over 40 years if I wasn't moving I would never sell this car I would just have sat on it and waited.
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The car not being a C16 car really is a none issue. It’s 16 years old, there are no manufacturers warranty implications, and I’m doubtful there are any insurance implications either.
They were all built in the same factory on the same production line. Only the sticker under the bonnet differs.
It looks a cracking car, good luck with the sale, and good luck with your future endeavours
They were all built in the same factory on the same production line. Only the sticker under the bonnet differs.
It looks a cracking car, good luck with the sale, and good luck with your future endeavours
Slippydiff said:
The car not being a C16 car really is a none issue. It’s 16 years old, there are no manufacturers warranty implications, and I’m doubtful there are any insurance implications either.
They were all built in the same factory on the same production line. Only the sticker under the bonnet differs.
It looks a cracking car, good luck with the sale, and good luck with your future endeavours
With the car not being a British c16 spec there must be more differences than just a number on a sticker. They are made to different country codes for a reason?They were all built in the same factory on the same production line. Only the sticker under the bonnet differs.
It looks a cracking car, good luck with the sale, and good luck with your future endeavours
Kevin-sz0nv said:
The yellow GT3 on collecting cars is mine as someone has pointed out. I am 64 and a true enthusiast. I have a small collection of cars and I have decided to go and live in the USA where my son and daughter live. I have already sold my Lancia Monte Carlo, the Rolls, X19 and my E30 M3. I have shipped my Alfa Spider over to the states for me to use. I bought the GT3 literally as an investment not to use. Because the car had lived in Cyprus and was a holiday vacation car to me was a real plus point. I have spent many trips to Nurburgring, Spa, Oukton Park etc and the GT3s are the Kings of most track days. My view on low mileage ones are if the mileage is genuine there is every chance most of the miles have been spent flat out on a track or more commonly they have been clocked! We all know how easy it is to have a digital odometer altered and lots do on cars like this because of the values, so being originally from an island in the sun to me was good news it came off the same production line as the UK ones but far more important was the ECU read out that the owner had in his folder as this shows the hours and rev ranges. Think about it how many Porches advertised for sale do you see with this in the advert?
I am not saying all GT3s have been fettled in this way but unless that data is available or the owner will allow you to have it read then walk away. I had the inserts changed to yellow leather but I can have them changed back to original at no cost to the buyer. Yes it's been in my garage a couple of years stood but it was fully serviced and looked over when I bought it and has done less than 500 miles or whatever since. I paid 65k for the car and the following year they were and a few still are at 79k. With emigrating the reserve is a lot lower than I paid so as the advert says my loss could be sometimes gain although I believe it's worth what I paid for it still today there isn't another for sale anywhere as good as this and being on the 06 plate makes it pretty unique. It's the right color in fantastic condition and the mileage is genuine and it's led a sheltered life! Darren at unique Porsche has just put on a new alternator and done a wheel alignment if you want an unbiased opinion of the car please ring him as this was only the 2nd time I have used him so their is no affiliation between us. Whoever buys this car I guarantee it will be free motoring with a big profit in a couple of years as naturally aspirated manual analogue cars like this in this condition will go through the roof.....mark my words I have been into cars like this for over 40 years if I wasn't moving I would never sell this car I would just have sat on it and waited.
Nice fleet. Shame you haven't managed more than 500 miles! Far too good to be tucked away, although I fully understand the reasons why.I am not saying all GT3s have been fettled in this way but unless that data is available or the owner will allow you to have it read then walk away. I had the inserts changed to yellow leather but I can have them changed back to original at no cost to the buyer. Yes it's been in my garage a couple of years stood but it was fully serviced and looked over when I bought it and has done less than 500 miles or whatever since. I paid 65k for the car and the following year they were and a few still are at 79k. With emigrating the reserve is a lot lower than I paid so as the advert says my loss could be sometimes gain although I believe it's worth what I paid for it still today there isn't another for sale anywhere as good as this and being on the 06 plate makes it pretty unique. It's the right color in fantastic condition and the mileage is genuine and it's led a sheltered life! Darren at unique Porsche has just put on a new alternator and done a wheel alignment if you want an unbiased opinion of the car please ring him as this was only the 2nd time I have used him so their is no affiliation between us. Whoever buys this car I guarantee it will be free motoring with a big profit in a couple of years as naturally aspirated manual analogue cars like this in this condition will go through the roof.....mark my words I have been into cars like this for over 40 years if I wasn't moving I would never sell this car I would just have sat on it and waited.
I personally would have spoken to 911V or Ashgood for an outright sale rather than rolling the dice on CC. Great if you find that buyer but as you know these cars are pretty niche and with winter+COVID+Brexit it's a tough market to sell to a very limited pool of buyers right now.
If it's an investment, why not just store it in the UK until it's 25 years old and then ship out to the US? It will cost, what max £1,500 a year to professionally store, and you can always send it off to one of the specialists to sell on your behalf if you needed to or just wanted rid. I fear you're going to lose much more than 8 years of storage costs on the spread between £65k and whatever you manage to sell the car for. Trade bids will be what, early 50s? The pricing you are comparing against is for low mileage, C16 clubsports with the absolute best provenance. I don't see this car in that same category. All IMHO.
I agree that non-C16 is a complete non issue by any objective measure. However, in terms of an investment, I'm afraid it does make a difference to some buyers in the UK.
Good luck with the sale, The car looks aboslutely cracking. Speed Yellow is a lovely colour and I personally like the seats - a bit of a nod to the 964 RS style coloured seat inserts.
Edited by Heathrow on Saturday 12th December 12:46
LaurasOtherHalf said:
There's no secret to it having had a rear quarter, I had it inspected which picked it up and JZM confirmed. It has emphatically not been smashed up. One replacement panel.
IMHO a good car, good spec, good parts put on it (2 piece brakes), required taste colour, black wheels dour which could be changed, realistic asking price.
Selling price open to question seeing as it's still for sale.
That's good to know. IMHO a good car, good spec, good parts put on it (2 piece brakes), required taste colour, black wheels dour which could be changed, realistic asking price.
Selling price open to question seeing as it's still for sale.
Not seriously looking but keeping my finger on the pulse. Got back into track days this year. My last time on track was the DN we were on, end of 2016.
I'm not interested in low mileage, garage queens as I intend on driving and tracking it.
GT4RS said:
With the car not being a British c16 spec there must be more differences than just a number on a sticker. They are made to different country codes for a reason?
My 996 GT3 RS I posted an image of was a Cypriot car. No different to a C16 car whatsoever. There were some myths about the non-C16 cars alarm/immobiliser being different. They weren’t
Kevin-sz0nv said:
The yellow GT3 on collecting cars is mine as someone has pointed out. I am 64 and a true enthusiast. I have a small collection of cars and I have decided to go and live in the USA where my son and daughter live.
Shame to have to break up that collection.I can remember you getting that 996 turbo when I had mine and seeing your posts about it.
As others say, hope your GT3 sells. It would be great to see more of these being used.
Slippydiff said:
My 996 GT3 RS I posted an image of was a Cypriot car. No different to a C16 car whatsoever.
There were some myths about the non-C16 cars alarm/immobiliser being different. They weren’t
I also owned a 2005 996 GT3 Gen2 in Speed Yellow ... also Cypriot car bought from Camtune where I part-exed my M3CSL.There were some myths about the non-C16 cars alarm/immobiliser being different. They weren’t
The Cypriot saving certainly helped me offset the bath I took on the M3CSL after EVO panned them ... I then sold it after a couple of years buying a very low mileage 996GT3RS (a C16 as it happened) ... cost to trade up £10k !!
Happy days ...
ChrisW. said:
I also owned a 2005 996 GT3 Gen2 in Speed Yellow ... also Cypriot car bought from Camtune where I part-exed my M3CSL.
The Cypriot saving certainly helped me offset the bath I took on the M3CSL after EVO panned them ... I then sold it after a couple of years buying a very low mileage 996GT3RS (a C16 as it happened) ... cost to trade up £10k !!
Happy days ...
Different world!The Cypriot saving certainly helped me offset the bath I took on the M3CSL after EVO panned them ... I then sold it after a couple of years buying a very low mileage 996GT3RS (a C16 as it happened) ... cost to trade up £10k !!
Happy days ...
The best of times to the worst of times ...
From a time when cars were inexpensive and used to a time when cars are investments and unobtainable unless you have bought enough cars, sir, and not used ...
How did we come to this ... love lost ?
I am really hoping that 2021 will be year when I can get back out and rag my GT4 ... in a sympathetic sort of way ... and maybe in my dreams my dealer will tell me that he has a GT4RS with my name on it ... if it suits Sir ...
I'm not into class hierarchy, but I hate being made to feel in an underclass for my enthusiasm ...
From a time when cars were inexpensive and used to a time when cars are investments and unobtainable unless you have bought enough cars, sir, and not used ...
How did we come to this ... love lost ?
I am really hoping that 2021 will be year when I can get back out and rag my GT4 ... in a sympathetic sort of way ... and maybe in my dreams my dealer will tell me that he has a GT4RS with my name on it ... if it suits Sir ...
I'm not into class hierarchy, but I hate being made to feel in an underclass for my enthusiasm ...
ChrisW. said:
I also owned a 2005 996 GT3 Gen2 in Speed Yellow ... also Cypriot car bought from Camtune where I part-exed my M3CSL.
The Cypriot saving certainly helped me offset the bath I took on the M3CSL after EVO panned them ... I then sold it after a couple of years buying a very low mileage 996GT3RS (a C16 as it happened) ... cost to trade up £10k !!
Happy days ...
Wow that’s amazing. I’d love a 6RS but the cost of change from 6GT3 is too much nowadays (not that I’m in a position to do so anyway)The Cypriot saving certainly helped me offset the bath I took on the M3CSL after EVO panned them ... I then sold it after a couple of years buying a very low mileage 996GT3RS (a C16 as it happened) ... cost to trade up £10k !!
Happy days ...
Did you track your CSL / GT3 / RS as much as your GT4?
Obviously tyre technology has moved on since then but would love to hear your experience. If your were to do it all again, would you rather have (modified) CSL/6GT3/6RS over your modified GT4?
Mine and my friend’s CSL (in the correct colour!)
ras62 said:
There are similar priced cars available but with double the miles so at that money with OPC warranty and peace of mind its competitively priced imo.
Are you referring to a certain purveyor of motor vehicles better known for selling M3 CSL's Rob ?If so, his asking price is
There was a stunning Mk2 in SY for sale privately on PH, but it's disappeared in the last 48 hours. Pretty sure the owner posted giving all the details of the car and his expenditure. It was a peach and far nicer than the one at Chester if the photos are anything to go by ...
I suspect that this will be a good buy if someone is in the market for one :
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2004-porsche-9...
GT4RS said:
Guess the big question is what will the general market think it’s really worth, be shocked if it gets bid out of the 50s given the current climate.
Small market for a 996 yellow gt3 these days.
From where I'm looking, it seems to be pretty small market for any 996 GT3 these days.Small market for a 996 yellow gt3 these days.
Slippydiff said:
GT4RS said:
Guess the big question is what will the general market think it’s really worth, be shocked if it gets bid out of the 50s given the current climate.
Small market for a 996 yellow gt3 these days.
From where I'm looking, it seems to be pretty small market for any 996 GT3 these days.Small market for a 996 yellow gt3 these days.
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