992 GT3

[Digga]

Ben Lowden said:

Glad to hear it!

Agree with the point you signed off on; we now all want to know how it copes on the road.

[franki68]

There are some roads where the gt3 feels a bit too stiff but not that many ,and having owned a gt4 and 991.2gts I recall them being equally unsettled on the same roads .

[Taffy66]

IME rough road manners have a lot to do with spec on different cars. I find the RS with Weissach pack, PCCBs and Magenesium wheels rides and breathes with rough road surfaces far better than it ought to. The difference will be less marked on the 992GT3 as there is only one set of wheels to tweak things.

[BubblesNW]

TDT said:

CloudStuff said:

Spyder75 said:

TDT said:

This was actually the first one I watched, told Dan the same.
Proper review.

Yep. I think he is v good and I wish he wouldn’t let frankel dominate every podcast or I wish frankel wouldn’t feel the need to do same.

Agree. Frankel's fine as far as it goes, but I'm not sure there a particular chemistry about the combination of them both.

Agee with all of this.

I totally understand the partnership:
Youth and relatability + experience and credentials.

But there are sometimes occasions where there is an incongruous clash, and there always will be.… it’s generation thing.

Just like when we're at trackdays

[Gitana991]

Taffy66 said:

IME rough road manners have a lot to do with spec on different cars. I find the RS with Weissach pack, PCCBs and Magenesium wheels rides and breathes with rough road surfaces far better than it ought to. The difference will be less marked on the 992GT3 as there is only one set of wheels to tweak things.

I agree. I was surprised that the 991.2 3RS WP felt more planted on tough surfaces than the gen 1 or first batch gen 2

[993rsr]

Now I know you don't look at the mantlepiece when you are poking the fire, but it's not a looker is it.

[BubblesNW]

993rsr said:

Now I know you don't look at the mantlepiece when you are poking the fire, but it's not a looker is it.

I know what you mean, something that would have been called a 'double bagger' back in the day.

Edited by BubblesNW on Thursday 22 April 18:25

[Taffy66]

993rsr said:

Now I know you don't look at the mantlepiece when you are poking the fire, but it's not a looker is it.

I thought you'd like it JC as it really likes going sideways according to CH.

[Yellow491]

If you think this is not a looker wait until you see the rear wing on the new rs to be.

[TDT]

AMG GT Black Series appears to have unleashed the avalanche for all other the ‘mainstream’ manufacturers seems to be doing more extreme things now…

Of course the hypercars lived by different rules anyway.

Edited by TDT on Thursday 22 April 19:26

[Taffy66]

Oh dear. Hope the 992 Touring will look better.

[Grantstown]

throt said:

Way better investment though, buddy

Haha, thanks for the reassurance!

To be fair, if you’re running the latest GT3 it’s also important to have enough time and opportunity to be able to use it properly.

[mlhj83]

The 991.2 GT3 RS (and any RS for that matter) isn't a good car for the bumpy B-road. It's not meant to be. It lacks suspension travel and the springs are obviously stiff. It can be enjoyed on a B-road, but it's compromised, and rightly so.

[RSVP911]

TDT said:

AMG GT Black Series appears to have unleashed the avalanche for all other the ‘mainstream’ manufacturers seems to be doing more extreme things now…

Of course the hypercars lived by different rules anyway.

Edited by TDT on Thursday 22 April 19:26

Is it April 1st - am I missing something

[Digga]

RSVP911 said:

TDT said:

AMG GT Black Series appears to have unleashed the avalanche for all other the ‘mainstream’ manufacturers seems to be doing more extreme things now…

Of course the hypercars lived by different rules anyway.

Edited by TDT on Thursday 22 April 19:26

Is it April 1st - am I missing something

The black car was the disguised test mule. Thankfully.

[franki68]

av185 said:

Interesting that Porsche official figures confirm the 992 GT3 manual is in fact 0.3 sec slower to 99mph and 0.5 sec slower to 124 mph than the 991.2 GT3.

you will be pleased to know that on the car wow video today he mentioned the times they have been getting the last couple of weeks have been better because it is a different track .

[Twinfan]

Digga said:

RSVP911 said:

TDT said:

AMG GT Black Series appears to have unleashed the avalanche for all other the ‘mainstream’ manufacturers seems to be doing more extreme things now…

Of course the hypercars lived by different rules anyway.

Is it April 1st - am I missing something

The black car was the disguised test mule. Thankfully.

Err, mules are always black. TDT posted the mules we've seen of the GT3RS, not the regular GT3. Hence the mahoooosive rear Cup car-style wing.

The RS is going to look ridiculous on the road.

[av185]

franki68 said:

av185 said:

Interesting that Porsche official figures confirm the 992 GT3 manual is in fact 0.3 sec slower to 99mph and 0.5 sec slower to 124 mph than the 991.2 GT3.

you will be pleased to know that on the car wow video today he mentioned the times they have been getting the last couple of weeks have been better because it is a different track .

Suppose its all relative and the best comparison are clearly the actual Porsche figures themselves.

These are identical for 991.2 and 992 to 62 both PDK and manual at 3.4 and 3.9 respectively.

To 99 Porsche state the PDK 991.2 is 7.3 and the 992 7.0 and to 124 the figures are 11.0 and 10.8.

To 124 mph Porsche state the manual 991.2 is 7.6 and the 992 7.9 and to 124 the figures are 11.4 and 11.9 respectively.

So on the above metric using official Porsche figs the 992 PDK is faster than the 991.2 PDK to 99mph and 124mph but the 992 manual is slower than the 991.2 manual to these speeds.

[Taffy66]

Twinfan said:

Err, mules are always black. TDT posted the mules we've seen of the GT3RS, not the regular GT3. Hence the mahoooosive rear Cup car-style wing.

The RS is going to look ridiculous on the road.

I agree. The trouble with this unquenchable futile quest for ever faster 'Ring times results in increasing downforce. This decides how big the rear wing needs to be. This goes hand in hand with ever increasing tyre and wheel sizes to cope with the extra downforce and faster Ring corner speeds.
This creates a monstrous creation which stands out like a sore thumb on public roads.

[Twinfan]

Taffy66 said:

I agree. The trouble with this unquenchable futile quest for ever faster 'Ring times results in increasing downforce. This decides how big the rear wing needs to be. This goes hand in hand with ever increasing tyre and wheel sizes to cope with the extra downforce and faster Ring corner speeds.
This creates a monstrous creation which stands out like a sore thumb on public roads.

Indeed. Which is why the Touring options are so attractive. I said this when the 991.2 Touring came out and I was massively in the minority. I think as time has passed more people can see where I was coming from.