GT3 Touring

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Mintbird

567 posts

103 months

Saturday 30th December 2017
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surely you lose the ram air effect from losing the spoiler? 20 bhp at high speed?

Taffy66

5,964 posts

104 months

Saturday 30th December 2017
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Apparently the so-called benefits of the ram-air effect of the winged GT3 are replicated in the Touring..When the rear spoiler is deployed the air hitting it gets forced into the engine intake somehow..This makes sense IMO because the top speed(max ram-air) of the Touring is only a couple of mph slower than the standard GT3.This minor discrepancy can easily be accounted for by the increased drag of the spoiler vs wing.
All the above i quote from Pete Stout's first driving impressions he posted on Rennlist......So don't shoot the messenger..biggrin

Cheib

23,336 posts

177 months

Saturday 30th December 2017
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Taffy66 said:
Apparently the so-called benefits of the ram-air effect of the winged GT3 are replicated in the Touring..When the rear spoiler is deployed the air hitting it gets forced into the engine intake somehow..This makes sense IMO because the top speed(max ram-air) of the Touring is only a couple of mph slower than the standard GT3.This minor discrepancy can easily be accounted for by the increased drag of the spoiler vs wing.
All the above i quote from Pete Stout's first driving impressions he posted on Rennlist......So don't shoot the messenger..biggrin
I am no expert on aerodynamics but surely the idea of the spoiler is to push air up and the car down ? just don't see how what Mr Stout says can be correct.

Taffy66

5,964 posts

104 months

Saturday 30th December 2017
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Whether you want to accept it or not the wing on the standard GT3 creates less drag than the pop-up spoiler on the touring..Another fact is if you raise the wing with no other alteration the wing will create more downforce.
The front splitter on the Touring is identical to the one on the winged version.The spoiler in combination with the gurney lip on the Touring also makes nearly as much downforce as the winged version albeit with more aerodynamic drag.These are all salient facts and confirmed by high ranking Porsche engineers.
This is why Porsche racing 991s all use big wings rather than drag inducing upright spoilers..Its all about the angle and the higher the wing the better.

Double gauche

316 posts

99 months

Saturday 30th December 2017
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All a little academic though no?( but quite interesting, for me anyway.)
I doubt many of us will notice reduced power at 150 mph or a little more drag / less downforce etc
If touring is your bag, that stuff won’t be a deal breaker.


seawise

2,150 posts

208 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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got an allocation - v. excited. spec is easy (PCCB's, standard wheels in silver, lift, full leather etc), but what about colour - torn between GT Silver with black, or Sapphire Blue with bright (as per the Frankfurt show car). think blue will look cool when dirty and on dull days (most of the time basically here in UK) and silver fantastic when clean and sunny. anyone else pondered over those two colour options ?

Robograd

152 posts

124 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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Welcome to the Touring Club, Seawise.
Come on in, the water’s lovely. Lock date: delivery time??

seawise

2,150 posts

208 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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Robograd said:
Welcome to the Touring Club, Seawise.
Come on in, the water’s lovely. Lock date: delivery time??
end this week, end march delivery

Robograd

152 posts

124 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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Whoa,
That’s a pretty quick turnaround - well done! Enjoy.

MartinRS2K

598 posts

121 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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seawise said:
got an allocation - v. excited. spec is easy (PCCB's, standard wheels in silver, lift, full leather etc), but what about colour - torn between GT Silver with black, or Sapphire Blue with bright (as per the Frankfurt show car). think blue will look cool when dirty and on dull days (most of the time basically here in UK) and silver fantastic when clean and sunny. anyone else pondered over those two colour options ?
I was torn between Sapphire Blue, GTSM and CWM but I think any colour will suit the car perfectly.

2010spy

1,916 posts

166 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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Not a GT3 Touring, but you get the idea.


blackmamba

823 posts

238 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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seawise said:
got an allocation - v. excited. spec is easy (PCCB's, standard wheels in silver, lift, full leather etc), but what about colour - torn between GT Silver with black, or Sapphire Blue with bright (as per the Frankfurt show car). think blue will look cool when dirty and on dull days (most of the time basically here in UK) and silver fantastic when clean and sunny. anyone else pondered over those two colour options ?
Pretty much exactly where I was a few weeks ago! Exterior colour was the hardest part. Rest much easier after that.

av185

18,628 posts

129 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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Looks like GTSM will be the new white and most popular colour closely followed by thd lsunch colour of Guards red for the gen 2, in the UK at least.

Fine colour but imo unless you go black wheels,which imo look rather chavvy, everything is rather grey especially if platinum stitching is optioned.

The Sapphire blue is a bit GTS/vanilla Porsche for the GT3 but the yellow pccb calipers provide a nice contrast and either platinum or yellow stitching provides a nice contrast.

Recollect there are only 2 other phers spending SB so.it will be quite rare as a colour for obvious reasons.

MartinRS2K

598 posts

121 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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av185 said:
Looks like GTSM will be the new white and most popular colour closely followed by thd lsunch colour of Guards red for the gen 2, in the UK at least.

Fine colour but imo unless you go black wheels,which imo look rather chavvy, everything is rather grey especially if platinum stitching is optioned.

The Sapphire blue is a bit GTS/vanilla Porsche for the GT3 but the yellow pccb calipers provide a nice contrast and either platinum or yellow stitching provides a nice contrast.

Recollect there are only 2 other phers spending SB so.it will be quite rare as a colour for obvious reasons.
No option to get yellow stitching as it’s a CXX option at £20k (and I did ask my OPC before re I locked my car down)

av185

18,628 posts

129 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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MartinRS2K said:
No option to get yellow stitching as it’s a CXX option at £20k (and I did ask my OPC before re I locked my car down)
£20k is a touch too much!

Which colour car did you finally spec Martin?

MartinRS2K

598 posts

121 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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av185 said:
MartinRS2K said:
No option to get yellow stitching as it’s a CXX option at £20k (and I did ask my OPC before re I locked my car down)
£20k is a touch too much!

Which colour car did you finally spec Martin?
Carrara White Metallic with standard Aluminium wheels and PCCB’s

av185

18,628 posts

129 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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MartinRS2K said:
av185 said:
MartinRS2K said:
No option to get yellow stitching as it’s a CXX option at £20k (and I did ask my OPC before re I locked my car down)
£20k is a touch too much!

Which colour car did you finally spec Martin?
Carrara White Metallic with standard Aluminium wheels and PCCB’s
CWM will be quite rare.

Great colour.

I have toyed with many colours but still ended up with Carrera white like my gen 1.

Going 'manuel' ext leather red stitching folding buckets clubsport carbon ceramics lift platinum wheels dynamic lights etc etc.

Think this gen 2 will prove to be one of the great GT Porsches.

RSVP911

8,192 posts

135 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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2010spy said:
Not a GT3 Touring, but you get the idea.

Bum shot smile


jh001ace

616 posts

179 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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Ditto my spec but I went for satin black wheels

2010spy

1,916 posts

166 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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RSVP911 said:
Bum shot smile

Looking good.