Talk me out of / into a 911

Talk me out of / into a 911

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ChrisW.

6,376 posts

257 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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Blown2CV said:
Trufit said:
What a refreshing post!

I’d say go for it and the only advice I have is try a few before you buy, most Porsche centres and specialists will have a broad selection and I’d like to think that they’d offer you a few test drives to help you make your decision. You may find that you don’t need to spend as much each month or that your prefer the way a certain model drives - only you can decide!

I’ve had a 991 and now have a 992, loved the 991 but prefer the 992.

Good luck
Ha refreshing in what way?
I would agree "refreshing" because it's such a sensible question in a place where many of us have asked ourselves the same question ... and obtained similar advice and spread of opinions.

For myself I would suggest 997 Gen2 / Coupe / with a lot of research on price and local support options ... the local specialist being my personal preference. It's not just about buying the car, it's also about the support to take any fear out of the possible windfalls of owning an expensive car at whatever level smile

Enjoy the journey ... !

Trufit

75 posts

184 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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Blown2CV said:
Trufit said:
What a refreshing post!

I’d say go for it and the only advice I have is try a few before you buy, most Porsche centres and specialists will have a broad selection and I’d like to think that they’d offer you a few test drives to help you make your decision. You may find that you don’t need to spend as much each month or that your prefer the way a certain model drives - only you can decide!

I’ve had a 991 and now have a 992, loved the 991 but prefer the 992.

Good luck
Ha refreshing in what way?
You were open about what you’d like, what you can afford and you seem to actually want to buy a car that you can drive and enjoy.

Made a “refreshing” change to some of the value drop, flipping and we’re all doomed posts on here recently - that’s not to say I don’t find some of the comments very entertaining!

Have you made a decision yet?

Blown2CV

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29,111 posts

205 months

Saturday 18th November 2023
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Trufit said:
Blown2CV said:
Trufit said:
What a refreshing post!

I’d say go for it and the only advice I have is try a few before you buy, most Porsche centres and specialists will have a broad selection and I’d like to think that they’d offer you a few test drives to help you make your decision. You may find that you don’t need to spend as much each month or that your prefer the way a certain model drives - only you can decide!

I’ve had a 991 and now have a 992, loved the 991 but prefer the 992.

Good luck
Ha refreshing in what way?
You were open about what you’d like, what you can afford and you seem to actually want to buy a car that you can drive and enjoy.

Made a “refreshing” change to some of the value drop, flipping and we’re all doomed posts on here recently - that’s not to say I don’t find some of the comments very entertaining!

Have you made a decision yet?
ah nice one yea i am purely after it based on drive and injecting enjoyment into my life, not profit. Decision will likely be drawn out and researched endlessly for 6+ months! There are financial constraints which means I can't quite move forward with it today. Also things like Mrs wants a new bathroom and patio and things like that...

Filibuster

3,180 posts

217 months

Sunday 19th November 2023
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My suggestion for your budget situation would be a 991.2 manual GTS. The 997 are fabulous cars (I have one myself) but they are classic cars by now.

If I had your budget, a nice example, low mileage 991.2 GTS with OPC warranty would be the way forward.

rawenghey

488 posts

23 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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Blown2CV said:
Talk me out of / into a 911
We will not. You should buy one biggrin

Digga

40,471 posts

285 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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Filibuster said:
My suggestion for your budget situation would be a 991.2 manual GTS. The 997 are fabulous cars (I have one myself) but they are classic cars by now.

If I had your budget, a nice example, low mileage 991.2 GTS with OPC warranty would be the way forward.
The other issues with 997 (and also 996) is that they are smaller than 991 and with 2 kids in tow, that's a consideration. Also, the cars are getting too old to run OPC warranty and there have been a lot of issues with engines in those (non GT or turbo) cars.

I'd tend toward a car with Porsche warranty if you can. Which exact car is personal choice, but 991.1 or .2 is starting point IMHO.

bridggar1

93 posts

43 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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I also used the kids/4 seater justification for 911. Reality for me was I very very rarely used them as family transport. So much so, that "my" car (usually 911) was only really used by me - went through numerous BMWs/Volvos to use as family transport. Then I realised I spent far more time in XC90 than I did in my car. So made sense to get a better "family" car & something for my personal use.

I know this is a bit of a rambling post, but in my scenario - 911 was not a family car - I don't think it ever would be for most families.

But once to get the itch - you MUST scratch it - if you can.

Nurburgsingh

5,143 posts

240 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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Any 911 is better than no 911. - Do it!!

Drive a few, and then buy the best example of the model you like thats within your budget.


Rocketreid

632 posts

74 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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It does seem that the 992 911 has become better value over the past 3 months

I was in the market for a Turbo S recently however pleased I did not pull the trigger then

Will wait until new year as a lot of new pre reg cars well below list being hawked about

Always felt the GTS is the sweet spot

politeperson

552 posts

183 months

Thursday 23rd November 2023
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I think the sweet spot of all 911s has to be a nearly new 992 C2 or C2S pdk of which I have seen a number sell for mint examples sell at around £80k with 5,000-10,000 miles on the clock. These have need cherished cars from 2020.

What more car could you ask for?

These are real sales prices, not asking prices.

Digga

40,471 posts

285 months

Thursday 23rd November 2023
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Nurburgsingh said:
Any 911 is better than no 911. - Do it!!

Drive a few, and then buy the best example of the model you like thats within your budget.
Very true. In fairnes also a Boxter or Cayman is 1,000 times better than no Porsche. Wonlt fit kids, but there is an argument for buying a cheap one and spending a bit to fix and just have as a purely fun car.

Similarly, 996 and 997, although you might need to budget a bit more for fixing up to standard, are far, far cheaper and, in many ways, more of a pure, raw experience.

DJMC

3,449 posts

105 months

Thursday 23rd November 2023
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I have a 981 Cayman, my wife a Macan S.
I still get the Porsche driving experience when (mostly) driving the Macan.
With the grandkids in the back of a 911 you'd be driving more sedately anyhow.
But if you must have a 911, you must.

MadsMan

29 posts

16 months

Thursday 23rd November 2023
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I went from a Cayman R to a 991.1 GTS this year as I have a daughter who's nearly 3 years old and wanted more use from the car. For what I wanted and like in a sports car the 911 is one of the few cars that meets the criteria.

I've done over 5,000 miles including a trip to the Pyrenees and 12 days to the 'ring and Alps. I was originally looking at a 997.2 GTS but went with the 991.1 due to the size (100mm longer in wheelbase I think) and isofix, which might still be a consideration for your youngest. It's also my favourite engine outside the GT cars and I prefer the interior (and wanted a change of interior too) over the 997.

It's surprisingly practical as most 911's are if you're willing to put the effort it; I took all this to the Alps without using the shelf behind the rear seats, front footwell or anything loose around my daughter in the back:



If you want to go camping with the family though and you have an inflatable tent you'll probably need a roof rack!

Edited by MadsMan on Thursday 23 November 12:53

martin mrt

3,779 posts

203 months

Friday 24th November 2023
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Absolutely buy one. I drove my mates 996.2 GT3 a few years ago and I was smitten. I’d always liked the 911 prior to that but after experiencing one for myself I was sold.

Earlier this year I made a purchase in the form of 997.1 C4s Manual with a Hartech rebuild.
It’s used sparingly, 6 months into ownership I still have to pinch myself I have my own 911.

Even if you only intend to “scratch the itch” like me, I can almost guarantee it will get under your skin. It certainly has for me.

guyvert1

1,858 posts

244 months

Friday 24th November 2023
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MadsMan said:
I went from a Cayman R to a 991.1 GTS this year as I have a daughter who's nearly 3 years old and wanted more use from the car. For what I wanted and like in a sports car the 911 is one of the few cars that meets the criteria.

I've done over 5,000 miles including a trip to the Pyrenees and 12 days to the 'ring and Alps. I was originally looking at a 997.2 GTS but went with the 991.1 due to the size (100mm longer in wheelbase I think) and isofix, which might still be a consideration for your youngest. It's also my favourite engine outside the GT cars and I prefer the interior (and wanted a change of interior too) over the 997.

It's surprisingly practical as most 911's are if you're willing to put the effort it; I took all this to the Alps without using the shelf behind the rear seats, front footwell or anything loose around my daughter in the back:



If you want to go camping with the family though and you have an inflatable tent you'll probably need a roof rack!

Edited by MadsMan on Thursday 23 November 12:53
Love it, great story, the 911 is supremely versatile ..

9k rpm

531 posts

212 months

Saturday 25th November 2023
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I was in a similar situation to you in early March this year; always wanted a 911 and have 5 & 7 year old girls so need rear seats. Very similar budget.

Looked at the 991.1 couldn’t get over the backwards sequential shift on the PDK using the stick and once I’d tested a 991.2 GTS the engine in the 991.1 whilst sounding great felt a bit low on shove. Then tried a 911.2 Carrera T which was nice but wanted the extra power. I had found in the GTS.

In the end I settled on a 992 C2S mainly due to the excellent deals about at the time from OPCs which meant on a PCP the cost was less than the 991.2 GTs but also as it wasn’t quite as low as the GTS (I have a high spot on entry to my drive that a reasonably low car will scrape on).

The interior is also a step up and it’s probably the last ICE only Carrera. I love the thing and will probably keep it for ever (unless one day I can afford a GT3 touring). Perfect daily for me and can happily ferry the kids to school etc. We have an X5 for family duties so it will never be needed for long trips.

Hope that helps, do it, you won’t regret it. Probably some good deals to be had at the OPCs at the end of the year too.

Edited by 9k rpm on Saturday 25th November 23:34

Blown2CV

Original Poster:

29,111 posts

205 months

Saturday 2nd December 2023
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9k rpm said:
I was in a similar situation to you in early March this year; always wanted a 911 and have 5 & 7 year old girls so need rear seats. Very similar budget.

Looked at the 991.1 couldn’t get over the backwards sequential shift on the PDK using the stick and once I’d tested a 991.2 GTS the engine in the 991.1 whilst sounding great felt a bit low on shove. Then tried a 911.2 Carrera T which was nice but wanted the extra power. I had found in the GTS.

In the end I settled on a 992 C2S mainly due to the excellent deals about at the time from OPCs which meant on a PCP the cost was less than the 991.2 GTs but also as it wasn’t quite as low as the GTS (I have a high spot on entry to my drive that a reasonably low car will scrape on).

The interior is also a step up and it’s probably the last ICE only Carrera. I love the thing and will probably keep it for ever (unless one day I can afford a GT3 touring). Perfect daily for me and can happily ferry the kids to school etc. We have an X5 for family duties so it will never be needed for long trips.

Hope that helps, do it, you won’t regret it. Probably some good deals to be had at the OPCs at the end of the year too.

Edited by 9k rpm on Saturday 25th November 23:34
nice one thanks, food for thought there!

Guybrush

4,359 posts

208 months

Saturday 2nd December 2023
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Filibuster said:
My suggestion for your budget situation would be a 991.2 manual GTS. The 997 are fabulous cars (I have one myself) but they are classic cars by now.

If I had your budget, a nice example, low mileage 991.2 GTS with OPC warranty would be the way forward.
Agreed.