Potentially looking for a 996 Turbo
Discussion
Hi OP thanks for the PM. LHD should be 25% cheaper than equivalent RHD IMO. In your shoes I'd wait till after the referendum as there maybe rich pickings if it goes the wrong way for the remain campaign. Take your time to find the right car. TBH you're buying at the worst time possible as the market is at an all time high. That Irish car that belongs to Remote was the one to go for as its had everything upgraded but he seems to have changed his mind sadly. Its quite easy to drop £10k on a turbo if its turbos, suspension, clutch, radiators are on the way out which most are nowadays as the earliest cars are 16 years old. Personally I'd up your budget and buy a mint one from JZM. It will cost you less over all in the medium term IMO as long as you do not do more than 3-5k miles per year.
9e 28 said:
Hi OP thanks for the PM. Personally I'd up your budget and buy a mint one from JZM. It will cost you less over all in the medium term IMO as long as you do not do more than 3-5k miles per year.
Thanks for coming back to me and yes the market does appear to be super high at the moment.Time to contemplate what to do next I think as yes upping the budget could be an option, but then it might be better to take a back seat and watch for a while
No rush from me!
BTW seemed to be developing an interest in Cobalt Blue / Blue if anyone has one that they might be parting with in the near future
Juddder said:
9e 28 said:
Hi OP thanks for the PM. Personally I'd up your budget and buy a mint one from JZM. It will cost you less over all in the medium term IMO as long as you do not do more than 3-5k miles per year.
Thanks for coming back to me and yes the market does appear to be super high at the moment.Time to contemplate what to do next I think as yes upping the budget could be an option, but then it might be better to take a back seat and watch for a while
No rush from me!
BTW seemed to be developing an interest in Cobalt Blue / Blue if anyone has one that they might be parting with in the near future
Juddder said:
9e 28 said:
If you do up your budget worth looking at 997 turbo too and there were more of them made in Cobalt as it was the cars launch colour in UK.
Great tip - many thanks and yes I will!Hard to look past the ugly techart front spoiler, side skirts and grey decals but cheeky bid of £40,000 on this and you've absolutely nicked the car. Market doesn't like modded cars but techart have a good reputation. I'd pay for £40k for it and stick a genuine Porsche OEM aerokit front spoiler and oem GT2 or turbo side skirts and you'd have a 650 bhp missile.
I'd also replace the wheels with 19inch wheels as 20 inch wheels ruin handling and ride. Those 20 inch Techart wheels are very sought after and you'd get £2k for them. As long as the car checks out under that horrible make up there may be a gem there.
Moucho editing on his 911 Uk thread http://www.911uk.com/viewtopic.php?p=1192383&h...
9e 28 said:
Moucho editing on his 911 Uk thread http://www.911uk.com/viewtopic.php?p=1192383&h...
unlucky for someone they quoted him! is seller trying to remove some of the mod history then? no mention of turbos but 650bhp seems a stretch on ECU and exhaust to put it mildly, very possible on a TechArt RR of course if seller has all original parts I agree at £40k could be a good buyif it can be visually put back to stock
"Sure.. The build Sheet..
TechArt Bodykit.
TechArt 20 Inch LW Forged Alloys.
TechArt Suspension.
TechArt Performance Clutch.
TechArt Sports Exhaust System.
TechArt ECU.
TechArt CF Wing Mirror Covers.
TechArt CF Rear Window Spoiler.
TechArt Steering Wheel.
TechArt Short Shifter.
TechArt Gear Stick.
TechArt Floor Mats.
TechArt CF Interior.
TechArt Aluminium Pedals.
TechArt Red Set Belts.
TechArt Graphics.
655 BHP.
820 Nm Torque"
Edited by Adam B on Wednesday 15th June 13:21
Adam B said:
9e 28 said:
Moucho editing on his 911 Uk thread http://www.911uk.com/viewtopic.php?p=1192383&h...
unlucky for someone they quoted him! is seller trying to remove some of the mod history then? no mention of turbos but 650bhp seems a stretch on ECU and exhaust to put it mildly, very possible on a TechArt RR of course if seller has all original parts I agree at £40k could be a good buyif it can be visually put back to stock
"Sure.. The build Sheet..
TechArt Bodykit.
TechArt 20 Inch LW Forged Alloys.
TechArt Suspension.
TechArt Performance Clutch.
TechArt Sports Exhaust System.
TechArt ECU.
TechArt CF Wing Mirror Covers.
TechArt CF Rear Window Spoiler.
TechArt Steering Wheel.
TechArt Short Shifter.
TechArt Gear Stick.
TechArt Floor Mats.
TechArt CF Interior.
TechArt Aluminium Pedals.
TechArt Red Set Belts.
TechArt Graphics.
655 BHP.
820 Nm Torque"
Edited by Adam B on Wednesday 15th June 13:21
Just the power kit 3 without all the body styling tat was about £30k. From the advert it looks like it doesn't have the power kit and if it does he for sure hasn't got a clue which one. I'd personally send the car to Tech 9 for an inspection if I was buying it as they could tell you if the cars the real deal.
http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/997-turbo-gt2/2...
Powerkits offered from TechArt.
2007-2009 Porsche Turbo
1) Power Kit 097/T1 - 530hp (with Factory Exhaust)
550hp (with Optional TechArt Exhaust)
-Sport Air Filter
-TechArt ECU 097/T1
-TechArt Carbon Engine Styling Kit
-Techart Exhaust Manifolds
2) Power Kit 097/T2 - 580hp (with Factory Exhaust)
600hp (with Optional TechArt Exhaust)
-Sport Air Filter
-Techart ECU 097/T2
-TechArt Carbon Engine Styling Kit
-TechArt Inlet Pipe
-Techart Upgraded T20 VTG Turbochargers
-TechArt Exhaust Manifolds
3) Power Kit 097/T3 - 660hp
-Sport Air Filter
-TechArt ECU 097/T3.1
-TechArt Engine Styling Kit
-TechArt Upgraded T35 VTG Turbochargers
-TechArt Exhaust Manifolds
-TechArt Carbon Air Intake Pipes
-TechArt High Volume Intercoolers
-TechArt Fuel Pressure Regulator
-TechArt Sport Clutch
-TechArt Inlet Pipe
-TechArt Valved Exhaust System
-TechArt Sport Tailpipes
monthefish said:
My old 996 Turbo used to have a quite a thirst for oil - always did (although it was only about a third of the above noted 'acceptable' consumption) owned it for 2 years and 10k miles (from 72k to 82k) and it never missed a beat. Never worked out where the oil actually went (no smoke, no drips or leaks - just assumed it was being sacrificed to the gods of high performance).
Ironically, my 996 Carrera uses no oil whatsover.
A notorious path for oil with Turbo is past/through the turbo oil seals. The word is to check the compressor wheel of each turbo. (A good time to do this is when the intake system is partially disassembled/removed when the plugs are being replaced.) If the compressor wheel is wet with oil (and the intercooler has any real amount of oil in it) then the seal is leaking. Not sure at what point the seal needs to be addressed but it is a turbo rebuild or turbo replace job. Expensive.Ironically, my 996 Carrera uses no oil whatsover.
My 2003 Turbo can use very little oil in 4K miles road trip as I seldom really push it hard. I certainly drive it at the speed limit or thereabouts (if you know what I mean) but I don't hammer the car for any length of time. However, a spirited run through the twisties can have the oil level down a bar or so in practically no time.
The engine very very seldom smokes at cold start and never smokes at any other time. Ever.
Absent the long road trips, and any twisty road fun, consumption is around a quart per 5K miles. I change the oil every 5K miles.
Rockster said:
A notorious path for oil with Turbo is past/through the turbo oil seals. The word is to check the compressor wheel of each turbo. (A good time to do this is when the intake system is partially disassembled/removed when the plugs are being replaced.) If the compressor wheel is wet with oil (and the intercooler has any real amount of oil in it) then the seal is leaking. Not sure at what point the seal needs to be addressed but it is a turbo rebuild or turbo replace job. Expensive.
My 2003 Turbo can use very little oil in 4K miles road trip as I seldom really push it hard. I certainly drive it at the speed limit or thereabouts (if you know what I mean) but I don't hammer the car for any length of time. However, a spirited run through the twisties can have the oil level down a bar or so in practically no time.
The engine very very seldom smokes at cold start and never smokes at any other time. Ever.
Absent the long road trips, and any twisty road fun, consumption is around a quart per 5K miles. I change the oil every 5K miles.
1.5 liters is normal over 3000 miles, and after a spirited drive on starting back up a puff of smoke again is par for the course andMy 2003 Turbo can use very little oil in 4K miles road trip as I seldom really push it hard. I certainly drive it at the speed limit or thereabouts (if you know what I mean) but I don't hammer the car for any length of time. However, a spirited run through the twisties can have the oil level down a bar or so in practically no time.
The engine very very seldom smokes at cold start and never smokes at any other time. Ever.
Absent the long road trips, and any twisty road fun, consumption is around a quart per 5K miles. I change the oil every 5K miles.
no cause for worry
IIRC the Mezger - turbo or N/A - had more of a rep for occasional smoke on warm re-starts.
The idea of the turbo seals going and being the main source of oil consumption seems reasonable. Turbos run at several hundred thousand RPM and get jeffing hot, so I guess the seals will deteriorate and then leak.
The idea of the turbo seals going and being the main source of oil consumption seems reasonable. Turbos run at several hundred thousand RPM and get jeffing hot, so I guess the seals will deteriorate and then leak.
OP.
On the face of it this appears to be great value, the retailer could have asked more, if you factor in a bit of
negotiation then this would be a safe place to park your money. Details are sparse to say the least, which is
about the usual standard of effort from dealers (myself excluded), a quick call would fill in the blanks...
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
On the face of it this appears to be great value, the retailer could have asked more, if you factor in a bit of
negotiation then this would be a safe place to park your money. Details are sparse to say the least, which is
about the usual standard of effort from dealers (myself excluded), a quick call would fill in the blanks...
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
IIRC the Mezger - turbo or N/A - had more of a rep for occasional smoke on warm re-starts.
The idea of the turbo seals going and being the main source of oil consumption seems reasonable. Turbos run at several hundred thousand RPM and get jeffing hot, so I guess the seals will deteriorate and then leak.
The idea of the turbo seals going and being the main source of oil consumption seems reasonable. Turbos run at several hundred thousand RPM and get jeffing hot, so I guess the seals will deteriorate and then leak.
The Red Devil said:
OP.
On the face of it this appears to be great value, the retailer could have asked more, if you factor in a bit of
negotiation then this would be a safe place to park your money. Details are sparse to say the least, which is
about the usual standard of effort from dealers (myself excluded), a quick call would fill in the blanks...
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
Thanks for the heads-up On the face of it this appears to be great value, the retailer could have asked more, if you factor in a bit of
negotiation then this would be a safe place to park your money. Details are sparse to say the least, which is
about the usual standard of effort from dealers (myself excluded), a quick call would fill in the blanks...
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
Funnily enough I already mailed them some questions earlier tonight as noticed it too and agree with your prognosis!
Will report back how I get on....
KR Alex / Juddder
Digga said:
FWIW, I like that; seal grey with totally black interior was my #1 choice when I was looking, but I settled for silver paintwork.
To my eyes, the car looks to have been lowered though - worth considering/checking if you have a lot of speed bumps to negotiate locally.
My first impression was it had been lowered too, however the wheels are locked over which may just be giving thatTo my eyes, the car looks to have been lowered though - worth considering/checking if you have a lot of speed bumps to negotiate locally.
view, personally I see no need to lower a 6t, the handling is good enough, and well the ride is plenty harsh as
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