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David W. said:
If only this would work, but Ferrari messed this system up years ago !Purple Man said:
Local OPC told me yesterday that the 992 GT3 will probably be released February but not to expect any delivery's of cars until the end of the year, September at the best. So that's a bit disappointing.
Just NO way is this true.. they won’t miss out on delivery’s for summer as people will go off the boil by September! Was going to be a Jan release with March/April delivery’s but COVID lockdown again! So they probably right in saying early February release with first cars being seen May/June.
Geneve said:
Traditionally, isn’t the GT3:
- Announced in Feb
- First shown at Geneva (March)
- Early production/road test models in the Spring
- First worldwide deliveries in the Summer
- U.K. deliveries from Sept/Oct (just in time for winter
)
I would go with this- Announced in Feb
- First shown at Geneva (March)
- Early production/road test models in the Spring
- First worldwide deliveries in the Summer
- U.K. deliveries from Sept/Oct (just in time for winter
)My previous cars have followed this pattern
IMO any cars that get here this year will be a bonus with the current world problems.
Jeweller70 said:
There are massive silicon supply shortage Upton 1 year for some raw material.
Some manufacturers are shutting down due to this. This will be a problem for everyone at some point.
Might not be connected but modern cars don’t go far without silicon.
A silicone shortage ? what are the women of Cheshire going to do ?Some manufacturers are shutting down due to this. This will be a problem for everyone at some point.
Might not be connected but modern cars don’t go far without silicon.
franki68 said:
Jeweller70 said:
There are massive silicon supply shortage Upton 1 year for some raw material.
Some manufacturers are shutting down due to this. This will be a problem for everyone at some point.
Might not be connected but modern cars don’t go far without silicon.
A silicone shortage ? what are the women of Cheshire going to do ?Some manufacturers are shutting down due to this. This will be a problem for everyone at some point.
Might not be connected but modern cars don’t go far without silicon.
Hope Porsche Wilmslow survives with their main customer base staying home and afraid to leave their mock Tudor piles.
Geneve said:
Traditionally, isn’t the GT3:
- Announced in Feb
- First shown at Geneva (March)
- Early production/road test models in the Spring
- First worldwide deliveries in the Summer
- U.K. deliveries from Sept/Oct (just in time for winter )
This is exactly right. My 991.2 GT3 followed this timeline in 2017. Announced in March with allocation secured and deposit paid then, very first UK cars showed up July/August, bulk of cars arrived September onwards (mine was 27 Sept 2017). I suspect it'll be broadly the same this time round.- Announced in Feb
- First shown at Geneva (March)
- Early production/road test models in the Spring
- First worldwide deliveries in the Summer
- U.K. deliveries from Sept/Oct (just in time for winter
)RankAmateur said:
This is exactly right. My 991.2 GT3 followed this timeline in 2017. Announced in March with allocation secured and deposit paid then, very first UK cars showed up July/August, bulk of cars arrived September onwards (mine was 27 Sept 2017). I suspect it'll be broadly the same this time round.
Agreed. Little trip down memory lane ..2017Allocation on 7th March
Trip to see release in Geneva on 14th March
Collection 1st September
Jules 1 said:
Sour Grapes, You can’t blame Porsche for looking after their best customers first..
It depends what you mean by Porsche's best customers.Are these people who buy from a single dealer cars they don't want, helping the dealer to shift metal, sharing premiums with the dealer and becoming private traders in their own right ?
Or:
Are these people who understand Porsche heritage having owned many cars bought both new and secondhand from a wide range of dealers and private individuals, driving their cars, sharing them at Porsche events, and contributing to forums that are not discussing ownership and usage matters ?
Or:
??
The problem is that Porsche are at the moment really turning off the second category ... and the first category may leave them as soon as the arithmetic stops working ?
ChrisW. said:
Jules 1 said:
Sour Grapes, You can’t blame Porsche for looking after their best customers first..
It depends what you mean by Porsche's best customers.Are these people who buy from a single dealer cars they don't want, helping the dealer to shift metal, sharing premiums with the dealer and becoming private traders in their own right ?
Or:
Are these people who understand Porsche heritage having owned many cars bought both new and secondhand from a wide range of dealers and private individuals, driving their cars, sharing them at Porsche events, and contributing to forums that are not discussing ownership and usage matters ?
Or:
??
The problem is that Porsche are at the moment really turning off the second category ... and the first category may leave them as soon as the arithmetic stops working ?
Twinfan said:
Jules 1 said:
Sour Grapes, You can’t blame Porsche dealers for looking after their best customers first..
Edited for accuracy. This is the bottom line when it comes to GT cars. They're sold by Porsche OPCs, the independent businesses, not Porsche AG.ChrisW. said:
Jules 1 said:
Sour Grapes, You can’t blame Porsche for looking after their best customers first..
It depends what you mean by Porsche's best customers.Are these people who buy from a single dealer cars they don't want, helping the dealer to shift metal, sharing premiums with the dealer and becoming private traders in their own right ?
Or:
Are these people who understand Porsche heritage having owned many cars bought both new and secondhand from a wide range of dealers and private individuals, driving their cars, sharing them at Porsche events, and contributing to forums that are not discussing ownership and usage matters ?
Or:
??
The problem is that Porsche are at the moment really turning off the second category ... and the first category may leave them as soon as the arithmetic stops working ?
OPC customers I know in the UK and Europe that secure GT allocations do so for some of the reasons below;
They’re loyal to their OPC and the brand generally. Slagging off the brand or an OPC publicly is unlikely to help the situation.
They regularly buy a new or used none GT car from their OPC, perhaps a daily driver and trade it in when ready for a change.
They’ve not immediately flipped to an independent a new GT car.
They use the OPC for service and parts.
They race or do track days in a Porsche, often spending with Porsche Motorsport.
They’re collectors of Porsches often attending organised events getting the cars seen.
They’re part of the VIP program “Not black circles”
It’s generally like any other business the regular loyal customers spending the money and doing the business get looked after.
One of a number of reasons GT cars hold their RV is down to controlling supply. It genius marketing, create an incredible product at a fair price and control supply. People can always say they’re off to another Manufacturer never to return to Porsche, however when the reality sets in often of unreliability, poor and expensive parts supply, sinking residual values and dealers unwilling to buy the car back the allure of Porsche GT product hits home.
With the world the way it is the days of premiums on all but the very newest or limited number cars looks like being a thing of the past. Hopefully good news for us true GT enthusiasts that actually want to own and use our cars.
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