992 GT3RS

[hornbaek]

I sold my 991.1 GT3 RS (they have gone up in value since so “yes” I know it was too early and I should never have sold etc etc) but Porsche needs to add new developments to be able to sell models. It’s called progress I guess.
When the new 992 GT3 RS was launched yesterday, I took my 997 GT3 RS 4.0 out and gave it a good run down the unrestricted Autobahn and back via some curvy roads and decided that this is the car I’ll only ever need. I think the new 992 GT3 RS is fabulous, but I am not loosing sleep over it.

Edited by hornbaek on Thursday 18th August 09:45

[Da Original Whyayedee]

Not that I am in anyway a target customer for one of these, but its gone too far if you ask me, up there with the Senna. Absolutely incredible no doubt, I mean hearing that it has faster cornering speeds on road legal tyres than a GT3 Cup Car on slicks is insane enough.

I don't think the 992 GT3 is that pretty either mind.... sorry folks.

[Pflanzgarten]

I asked the following on the main page thread;

Pflanzgarten said:

I wonder if the proliferation of flipping has allowed the development team to push the boat out so far?

I mean, RS' have never been this expensive, nor such an increase on the standard car. If Andreas and the team were looking at the last RS trading at £200-£250k on the open market why wouldn't they say to the bean counters "look we can throw everything at this and still sell them all at "£200k+" (which they will be once optioned up.)

Is this the car the flippers are actually responsible for?

Obviously it was lost in the comments about how it looks and how they couldn't dare drive one on the road but an interesting thought perhaps?

[Taffy66]

Pflanzgarten said:

I asked the following on the main page thread;

Pflanzgarten said:

I wonder if the proliferation of flipping has allowed the development team to push the boat out so far?

I mean, RS' have never been this expensive, nor such an increase on the standard car. If Andreas and the team were looking at the last RS trading at £200-£250k on the open market why wouldn't they say to the bean counters "look we can throw everything at this and still sell them all at "£200k+" (which they will be once optioned up.)

Is this the car the flippers are actually responsible for?

Obviously it was lost in the comments about how it looks and how they couldn't dare drive one on the road but an interesting thought perhaps?

Very interesting and suspect there is more than an element of truth in your statement. If I was Porsche AG I'd have done exactly the same thing.

[MDL111]

Pflanzgarten said:

I asked the following on the main page thread;

Pflanzgarten said:

I wonder if the proliferation of flipping has allowed the development team to push the boat out so far?

I mean, RS' have never been this expensive, nor such an increase on the standard car. If Andreas and the team were looking at the last RS trading at £200-£250k on the open market why wouldn't they say to the bean counters "look we can throw everything at this and still sell them all at "£200k+" (which they will be once optioned up.)

Is this the car the flippers are actually responsible for?

Obviously it was lost in the comments about how it looks and how they couldn't dare drive one on the road but an interesting thought perhaps?

I wanted to post a reply to that - not sure if it is the flippers or just the general price increase of cars (see Ferraris as an example).
A specced 991 2 RS was already a 320-330k euro car in Germany vs I think 240 or so for the 997 version.

[MDL111]

Which probably is close to an 812
A bloody 992 Turbo S cab is something like 230 nowadays.
In the early 2000s I think a 360, Z8 and 996 Turbo were already similar price, so I think they just increased price in line with the competition

[isaldiri]

MDL111 said:

A specced 991 2 RS was already a 320-330k euro car in Germany vs I think 240 or so for the 997 version.

That seems remarkably high. German prices for the 991.2rs started at iirc just a bit below 200k euros. Even adding in ceramics and weissach gubbins wouldn't add 130k?

[Taffy66]

isaldiri said:

That seems remarkably high. German prices for the 991.2rs started at iirc just a bit below 200k euros. Even adding in ceramics and weissach gubbins wouldn't add 130k?

I think he's referring to the 991.2 GT2 RS and the 997.2 GT2 RS.

[MDL111]

Taffy66 said:

isaldiri said:

That seems remarkably high. German prices for the 991.2rs started at iirc just a bit below 200k euros. Even adding in ceramics and weissach gubbins wouldn't add 130k?

I think he's referring to the 991.2 GT2 RS and the 997.2 GT2 RS.

Yes sorry - GT2

[epom]

Absolutely Batsh*t. Almost getting to the point where its no longer suitable for road.

Might still configure one though

[DarthtaterM16]

Thing is absolutely ludicrous....

Really, REALLY glad it exists though!

[Dr S]

DarthtaterM16 said:

Thing is absolutely ludicrous....

Really, REALLY glad it exists though!

+1 - they really went the whole hog. I wonder how it performs on the road though, as it looks very much focused on track work. If usability and enjoyment on the road is lacking, then I for one would get myself a proper cup car for the track which is a different animal alltogether

Edited by Dr S on Thursday 18th August 15:13

[Digga]

isaldiri said:

P.S funny thing is i used to do quite a few of the palmersport days and the drivers always used to tell me the single seater had v v little downforce and it was the lp thingy with the instructor at the same track that actually did have meaningful downforce. Can see why it might have been the case to have a v light single seater where drivers of uncertain ability are out there on their own without having any of them trying to rely on aero grip was thought sensible i have to admit.....

I was told it was the other way around.

I struggled like hell with the 2 seater, to the point I was not at all looking forward to the single seater, but it clicked for me within a lap and a bit.

Braking was the hardest thing. You pick what you think is a sensible brake point and stop about 50 yards short of the corner entry. Drive to the entry and then the tyres are too cold to not understeer like a bd.

[ChrisW.]

Taffy66 said:

Pflanzgarten said:

I asked the following on the main page thread;

Pflanzgarten said:

I wonder if the proliferation of flipping has allowed the development team to push the boat out so far?

I mean, RS' have never been this expensive, nor such an increase on the standard car. If Andreas and the team were looking at the last RS trading at £200-£250k on the open market why wouldn't they say to the bean counters "look we can throw everything at this and still sell them all at "£200k+" (which they will be once optioned up.)

Is this the car the flippers are actually responsible for?

Obviously it was lost in the comments about how it looks and how they couldn't dare drive one on the road but an interesting thought perhaps?

Very interesting and suspect there is more than an element of truth in your statement. If I was Porsche AG I'd have done exactly the same thing.

What a very interesting thought. Maybe every cloud does have a silver lining ... as commented elsewhere, I am very glad that it exists even if without a prospect of retail purchase it is even further from what I would want to spend !!

[hunter 66]

Just watched the Catchpole interview, amazing car for sure , corner speeds faster than a Cup car on slicks ...track daying just got a whole lot more serious ....
Maybe not for me , but who knows , maybe a phone call may change things ?

Edited by hunter 66 on Thursday 18th August 20:11

Edited by hunter 66 on Thursday 18th August 20:12

[seawise]

What an absolute monster, hats off to Porsche GT dept, developing all that aero plus the configuration tech and then making it suitable for a road car must have been quite a challenge.

Would love one, but to be fair not sure i’d be able to do it justice. Think a GT4 RS would suit me better.

[mikep240]

isaldiri said:

mikep240 said:

But surely the greatest take away from the launch was the downforce number it generates at 285 kmh, 860kg - that is like having 10 big blokes sat on the car. Mind blowing for a road car.

Obviously that number will diminish at more sane speeds but even so, it will be an epic corner-hound.

Well and that's the rather curious thing - I'd love to know how or why 'DRS' as the car is supposed to have produces more downforce relative to square of speed at 285 km/h than at 200 km/h. Usually it's supposed to be ahem 'drag reduction system' not 'drag increase system'......

Exactly! The only thing I personally read into this, is that the DRS is held to achieve Vmax, then snapped shut to give the headline figure.
Failing that, the lower gearing could indicate that 285 kmh is max speed in either mode, it may just take longer to reach that number with the DRS closed??

Who knows.

[ChrisW.]

[quote=hunter 66]Just watched the Catchpole interview, amazing car for sure , corner speeds faster than a Cup car on slicks ...track daying just got a whole lot more serious ....
Maybe not for me , but who knows , maybe a phone call may change things ?

Edited by hunter 66 on Thursday 18th August 20:11

It was fascinating to watch 'Catchpole's body language ... technology to test the best test drivers for sure, there is a lot to think about but, quite magnificent.

McLaren have just been outdone.

[ChrisW.]

ChrisW.]unter 66 said:

Just watched the Catchpole interview, amazing car for sure , corner speeds faster than a Cup car on slicks ...track daying just got a whole lot more serious ....
Maybe not for me , but who knows , maybe a phone call may change things ?

Edited by hunter 66 on Thursday 18th August 20:11

It was fascinating to watch 'Catchpole's body language ... technology to test the best test drivers for sure, there is a lot to think about but, quite magnificent.

McLaren have just been outdone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eAv3lsb0Xc

[Melvynr]

It will be interesting to see when the journos get their hands on it, altering the damper setup on the fly could be the best thing they have ever done to a 911.