992 ST

[Swine Enthusiast]

Yeah, completely turned off to this, unsurprising given my curmudgeon nature but also my cynicism around, on the face of it, are cash grabs.

I am sure Andreas will be out to tell everyone that *this* one is the ultimate Porsche he is most proud of, with the usual gaggle of access journos desperate to promote it.

[Swine Enthusiast]

julian987R said:

A lovely colour but on the podgy 922 it just doesn't work - looks like a giant slab of Edam

https://finder.porsche.com/gb/en-GB/details/porsch...

Yeah, the latest PTS and shape of the cars softens the lines and makes the car look spongy and undefined.

[ChrisW.]

TheDeadPrussian said:

This is one of the best/most comprehensive reviews I’ve seen so far:

I haven't seen them all but it's definitely a very interesting back to back comparison of a Touring and the ST ... although the Touring was on steels which we know will make a difference to the way the car handles the texture of the road surface, which seems a little careless ?

I'm a firm believer that I can feel the difference between the steel and carbon brake set-ups ... but I only have direct comparison on my old CaymanR so this may no longer be relevant ? But my ST's (surface transform discs are a massive improvement over the PCCB's for serious track use on my GT4).

(Just thought ... I own four ST's !!)

[Swine Enthusiast]

rkwm1 said:

Nice.

You can't have the heritage without the chrome trim which is a pain.

You have PTS confirmed? When is your build?

Had a play, also can't have the heritage interior without the external decals?

I'd go for Peridot Green metallic tbh.

[TheDeadPrussian]

Swine Enthusiast said:

Had a play, also can't have the heritage interior without the external decals?

I'd go for Peridot Green metallic tbh.

You can delete the decals that come with the Heritage Pack. I deleted the roundel in my spec, but kept the Porsche script.

[Ed.Neumann]

Swine Enthusiast said:

Had a play, also can't have the heritage interior without the external decals?

I'd go for Peridot Green metallic tbh.

That's what I specced last night.

Peridot Green with the heritage interior.

You can chose to just have the PORSCHE side decal and loose the number roundal.

[Robbo66]

TheDeadPrussian said:

This is one of the best/most comprehensive reviews I’ve seen so far:

'Lynne, I'm not driving a mini metro...I'll just speak over you'

Pure Partridge

[Dr S]

ChrisW. said:

I haven't seen them all but it's definitely a very interesting back to back comparison of a Touring and the ST ... although the Touring was on steels which we know will make a difference to the way the car handles the texture of the road surface, which seems a little careless ?

I'm a firm believer that I can feel the difference between the steel and carbon brake set-ups ... but I only have direct comparison on my old CaymanR so this may no longer be relevant ? But my ST's (surface transform discs are a massive improvement over the PCCB's for serious track use on my GT4).

(Just thought ... I own four ST's !!)

To me the difference is rather pronounced in a) the way the steering feels on turn-in and b) an somewhat increased suppleness of the suspension

[ChrisW.]

So less inertia in the suspension .... well, I wonder how that happened ?

[GTRene]

TheDeadPrussian said:

My current specification (PTS to be confirmed): https://configurator.porsche.com/en-GB/model/99288...

looks like a great color to me, also seen a green one, looked also lovely.

The blue one in the video looks also nice, but... I'm getting to old or not old enough for such light blue gulf-ish its nice when you spot one on the road, but to own? if it had to be a blue one, then a darker blue metallic could looks great on the 992

[julian987R]

Swine Enthusiast said:

Yeah, completely turned off to this, unsurprising given my curmudgeon nature but also my cynicism around, on the face of it, are cash grabs.

I am sure Andreas will be out to tell everyone that *this* one is the ultimate Porsche he is most proud of, with the usual gaggle of access journos desperate to promote it.

I agree, I have gone off it now. Just a parts bins special cash grab

[julian987R]

S/T buyers won't receive full ownership for 12 months to block resellers from making quick deals.

https://uk.motor1.com/news/689799/2024-porsche-911...

[Sidsw]

julian987R said:

S/T buyers won't receive full ownership for 12 months to block resellers from making quick deals.

https://uk.motor1.com/news/689799/2024-porsche-911...

us not uk and i'd think they will find a way around it

[GTRene]

hah, good one :-)

wait how that turns out.

[julian987R]

Sidsw said:

julian987R said:

S/T buyers won't receive full ownership for 12 months to block resellers from making quick deals.

https://uk.motor1.com/news/689799/2024-porsche-911...

us not uk

coming to a dealership near you soon (I'd imagine)

[Sidsw]

julian987R said:

coming to a dealership near you soon (I'd imagine)

i think dealers in uk have biger things to worry about like what they gonna do with the 1000+ new cars they got sitting round and flat order books for next year

i would think there are some pretty on it lawyers in the states all ready looking to get round this. also dealers in us wont be happy pcna taking away their adm.

[julian987R]

Sidsw said:

i think dealers in uk have biger things to worry about like what they gonna do with the 1000+ new cars they got sitting round and flat order books for next year

i would think there are some pretty on it lawyers in the states all ready looking to get round this. also dealers in us wont be happy pcna taking away their adm.

I cant see how a lawyer can get around something that isn't in force yet and that when it does come into effect Porsches T&Cs will simply cover themselves. Where is the legal claim to be had here? hardly infringing consumer rights - Don't like it, don't buy nor sign up to it. Simple.

More a case of lawyers in the US saying they are looking to get round this (knowing there is no hope of affecting any change in outcome) as a way to fleece their clients.

[Sidsw]

julian987R said:

I cant see how a lawyer can get around something that isn't in force yet and that when it does come into effect Porsches T&Cs will simply cover themselves. Where is the legal claim to be had here? hardly infringing consumer rights - Don't like it, don't buy nor sign up to it. Simple.

More a case of lawyers in the US saying they are looking to get round this (knowing there is no hope of affecting any change in outcome) as a way to fleece their clients.

apparently customers were told a few weeks back. a contact who is based between ny and uae mentioned something about a few weeks ago and wasnt impressed that porsche were forcing his hand in us, but in uae he was getting a car with no strings attached. seems like stupid rule to me. want to get rid of pemium build as many as you can as you can saell.

[julian987R]

Sidsw said:

apparently customers were told a few weeks back. a contact who is based between ny and uae mentioned something about a few weeks ago and wasnt impressed that porsche were forcing his hand in us, but in uae he was getting a car with no strings attached. seems like stupid rule to me. want to get rid of pemium build as many as you can as you can saell.

So in other words this contact is displeased that he can't flip the car in the first year of ownership.

[Sidsw]

julian987R said:

So in other words this contact is displeased that he can't flip the car in the first year of ownership.

i dont think he sells the cars straight away if at all. i know he still has his 911r, 991 gt2rs, and 991.1 gt3rs in the us. in uae i dont know but he has a number of limited ferrari there including laf and f12tdf which he has from new. he just doesnt like been told what he can and cant do.