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julian987R said:
One dealer today took a £1.4 million deposit to help secure an allocation. If that’s how it’s going to be then it’s all gone bonkers.
Well, I am not going to worry about it, but I have no interest in some kind of inflated price, and if I get one I have no interest in flipping it. The thing is for driving. When the first 997RS came out they did not think they could even sell them at list. Different people have different approaches and at this stage I am not eve sure of the allocations ,so have done what I need to do, as I did with the previous cars.
RDMcG said:
Well, I am not going to worry about it, but I have no interest in some kind of inflated price, and if I get one I have no interest in flipping it. The thing is for driving.
When the first 997RS came out they did not think they could even sell them at list. Different people have different approaches and at this stage I am not eve sure of the allocations ,so have done what I need to do, as I did with the previous cars.
if the overs are to be expected, that of £500K+ , then that is a mighty sum to tempt anyone with the best will in the world not to flip. But hats off to you and i hope you get your allocation to use as intended.When the first 997RS came out they did not think they could even sell them at list. Different people have different approaches and at this stage I am not eve sure of the allocations ,so have done what I need to do, as I did with the previous cars.
julian987R said:
RDMcG said:
Not locked in of course so will see if and when I get an allocation
993rsr said:
julian987R said:
RDMcG said:
Not locked in of course so will see if and when I get an allocation
julian987R said:
if the overs are to be expected, that of £500K+ , then that is a mighty sum to tempt anyone with the best will in the world not to flip. But hats off to you and i hope you get your allocation to use as intended.
I still have my 997.1RS and my 991.RS and have never stopped regretting selling my 7.2. At the time it was just a parking space issue. After that I decided that I would keep any further such cars permanently. I just cannot understand getting one of these things and not thrashing the hell out of it. I do get my cars PPF/ceramic etc and they are generally in good shape and dealer-serviced but they have some miles on them. I never modify them. I will generally put 3-5000km when I pick up the car at the factory in the first three weeks including a few track days. Not unusual for me to drop it back for shipment home needing tires.I am not knocking those who want to keep their cars at delivery miles. We are all different and I come from the pre-cult era when this market did not exist.
It is sad though. If cars were allowed to depreciate normally they would go through the usual depreciation/used car/shed/scrap for some, but many would reach the hands of enthusiasts for a number of years before they aged enough to get classic value.
The time will come when I am too old for this stuff and its not that far away, and I look at all of these cars as gateway to experiences and adventures.
That is where the value is for me.
RDMcG said:
I still have my 997.1RS and my 991.RS and have never stopped regretting selling my 7.2. At the time it was just a parking space issue. After that I decided that I would keep any further such cars permanently. I just cannot understand getting one of these things and not thrashing the hell out of it. I do get my cars PPF/ceramic etc and they are generally in good shape and dealer-serviced but they have some miles on them. I never modify them. I will generally put 3-5000km when I pick up the car at the factory in the first three weeks including a few track days. Not unusual for me to drop it back for shipment home needing tires.
I am not knocking those who want to keep their cars at delivery miles. We are all different and I come from the pre-cult era when this market did not exist.
It is sad though. If cars were allowed to depreciate normally they would go through the usual depreciation/used car/shed/scrap for some, but many would reach the hands of enthusiasts for a number of years before they aged enough to get classic value.
The time will come when I am too old for this stuff and its not that far away, and I look at all of these cars as gateway to experiences and adventures.
That is where the value is for me.
+1 - still remember buying (finally) my first GT3 in 2010. It wasn't an investment class at the time. I braced myself for steep depreciation and paid cash so any money I'd get back if I ever had to sell would be an upside. By now I have developed an unhealthy addiction to GT3s and not sold a single one. I may trade the latest Touring for an ST if it materialises but may chicken out again. The cars will carry me through to the time I have to hand in my licence due to old age.I am not knocking those who want to keep their cars at delivery miles. We are all different and I come from the pre-cult era when this market did not exist.
It is sad though. If cars were allowed to depreciate normally they would go through the usual depreciation/used car/shed/scrap for some, but many would reach the hands of enthusiasts for a number of years before they aged enough to get classic value.
The time will come when I am too old for this stuff and its not that far away, and I look at all of these cars as gateway to experiences and adventures.
That is where the value is for me.
I sold my 991.1 GT3 RS because I didn’t really use it after 5 years of ownership. On track my 997 GT3 RS 4.0 was more of an experience and ultimately more fun. The 4.0 I will never sell but the others are to be driven or they are out! Owners underestimate how expensive it is to simply store them and never use them. In recent times where interest rates were zero or thereabouts, opportunity costs were low but that picture is quickly changing. The market of ever increasing residuals is broken as the combination of zero interest rates and supply chain constraints was a “once in a lifetime” scenario.
Edited by hornbaek on Friday 2nd September 12:15
RDMcG said:
julian987R said:
if the overs are to be expected, that of £500K+ , then that is a mighty sum to tempt anyone with the best will in the world not to flip. But hats off to you and i hope you get your allocation to use as intended.
I still have my 997.1RS and my 991.RS and have never stopped regretting selling my 7.2. At the time it was just a parking space issue. After that I decided that I would keep any further such cars permanently. I just cannot understand getting one of these things and not thrashing the hell out of it. I do get my cars PPF/ceramic etc and they are generally in good shape and dealer-serviced but they have some miles on them. I never modify them. I will generally put 3-5000km when I pick up the car at the factory in the first three weeks including a few track days. Not unusual for me to drop it back for shipment home needing tires.I am not knocking those who want to keep their cars at delivery miles. We are all different and I come from the pre-cult era when this market did not exist.
It is sad though. If cars were allowed to depreciate normally they would go through the usual depreciation/used car/shed/scrap for some, but many would reach the hands of enthusiasts for a number of years before they aged enough to get classic value.
The time will come when I am too old for this stuff and its not that far away, and I look at all of these cars as gateway to experiences and adventures.
That is where the value is for me.
Always enjoy reading your sensible
Used market has begun in Germany €400K. So thats probably where they'll end up, around £400K, maybe £450K with the Weissach trimmings
https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id...
https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id...
Dr S said:
Same here. Must admit that I'm no fan of the "nose hair" vents in the front bonnet. I am sure they are highly functional but they are no looker...
The bonnet vents along with the roof mounted strakes were added very late in the development on the RS when the engineers discovered the hot air exiting the rads flew over the roof and entered the engine intakes and lost power. The 992GT3 RS overall design seems to have been constrained by a limited budget which also explains the increased kerb weight and same power as the 991RS.This total obsession with increasing aero down force has heavily compromised the design just because they want to shave a few seconds off the Nordscheife lap time.
Its a poor design IMO and very colour sensitive as a result. Guards Red does it no favours but the White non Weissach car with either Green or Red livery/wheels looks much better as others above have said. The Weissach pack makes a very fussy design even fussier and at a hefty £25.5k for an insignificant 20kg weight saving.
I'd buy a White non WP RS and go to RPM and fit a set of BBS Magnesium rims
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