Can I afford a decent 911 for everyday use?

[prismv]

Thanks for this I’d go with their finance
I think I will hold out for a 2016 auto as I struggle with my left knee on a manual.

I will avoid the red leather as looking at it, it’s too much for me.

Could I ask what spec you got for the price?

[mr pg]

Don't judge the red leather on photos, as it's much darker (more crimson) in the flesh. Never photos realistically. Looks very nice with the black top dash. Needs to be seen in person.

[Jefferson Steelflex]

My car was £70k but came with a host of extras (20" alloys, PSE, PDK, PDLS+, front axle lift, folding mirrors, etc.) Almost everything except Chrono which I did want but is largely pointless. Must-have for me was the PSE as without it I find the car is a little flat sounding (but still ok).

I think the market for early 991.2 Carreras with PDK is anywhere between £65-75k but is very spec/mileage dependent. Almost all cars are from OPCs. The manuals are cheaper and seem hard to shift.

I would follow advice on here, find yourself a nicely-specced 991.1 for £60k-odd and you won't take a bath in two years time like you would with a comparable BMW or Audi. I only went for a 991.2 because a) I had a higher budget to start with and b) I wanted PDK and just preferred the power delivery of the turbo when mated to the auto box.

[nunpuncher]

prismv said:

Thanks that makes sense

How do you find long drives say 3-4 hours
Are they doable?

Also how much is the tax on the Carreras?

Long journeys are perfectly comfortable even in my ancient 996 with it's antisocial exhaust, heavy steering and lack of creature comforts (I cheated and fitted bluetooth audio for less than £100).

I work as an application designer and I always design on the basis of prioritising a solution that caters for the highest number of use cases. In other words. If you only occasionally do a 3-4 hour journey then why would you buy a car to use every day that is specifically designed for that once a month journey?

[prismv]

Been looking at some more 911’s and trying to understand what the coupe version is?

I’ve also noticed that some cars have 2 round exhausts in the middle, some have more rectangular exhausts at the end and some have 4 exhausts. Is there a reason for this?

Also wondering if I should up the budget slightly as well

[mr pg]

prismv said:

Been looking at some more 911’s and trying to understand what the coupe version is?

I’ve also noticed that some cars have 2 round exhausts in the middle, some have more rectangular exhausts at the end and some have 4 exhausts. Is there a reason for this?

Also wondering if I should up the budget slightly as well

The coupe is the tradional 911 shape. You also have the cabrio and targa versions.
The centre exhausts will be the 991 gen 2 sports exhaust (not to be confused with GT3's), the rectangular ones a base Carrera, and the 4 tail pipe versions can mean a number of things from a Carrera (991 gen 1) with sports exhaust, a Carrera S, (991 gen 1 or 2) or a Carrera S (991 gen 1) with sports exhaust. Hope I've got that right! Someone will be along to correct if not.

[prismv]

Thanks I love the 4 pipes but guessing they won’t be on the gen 2 any more

[DJMC]

I'm not a great 911 fan, but if I had to have one (for kids) I always think the Targa looks special. Have you checked it out?

[6appeal]

I did exactly that, moved from a 6 series to a 911 as daily driver... after lots of research, it worked out most cost effective to buy a new one on PCP and i did a 4yr 80k mile PCP on a new 991.2 in 2016.

I traded it in April 2019 at 3yrs old and 50k miles... changed it for a new 992 Carrera S as had quite a chunk of positive equity, certainly different to the BMW finance experience.

Run the man maths, go and see a dealer and get a few quotes on new as the running costs are lower than a 6-series... tyres and servicing worked out cheaper for me than my 640D was.

[prismv]

Thanks really good to know
Not sure I could afford a new one though?

Surely repayments are ££££ ?

[prismv]

Yep just look at at a pcp on a new one, I can’t even get close lol

The 2019 car looks superb though

[prismv]

Thanks for the heads up on that the car play would have been a nice to have.

Really interested to understand what a perfect specced would look like and what I should hold out for?

I’d prop go for a 3-4 year pcp
Understand I can get a 2 year warranty through Opc it would be good to get this to match the 3-4 years though

[prismv]

Yes this all makes sense to me thanks again really helpful

In terms of spec do they all come with Bluetooth and usb as standard?
What about heated seats?

I’m still unsure if I should look for a 4 S or stick to the base Carrera, in terms of spec, parking sensors would be nice and the PASM along with cruise control and a reversing camera.
I don’t like too harsh a ride

I’m not sure in terms of spec what else is a must have is there an upgraded sat nav and hard drive for music?

My kids are 7 and 10 so 7 year old is still in a car seat so hoping there is enough room for them, although journeys won’t be too long.

I think I will only buy from OPC but I’ve heard they are notorious for not discounting unless this is only on new cars?

I think the later model you mention is the one I want, hopefully with a budget of £65k I can find a nice one.

I think they look great in black as well so would prefer that colour

[johnwilliams77]

prismv said:

Yes this all makes sense to me thanks again really helpful

In terms of spec do they all come with Bluetooth and usb as standard?
What about heated seats?

I’m still unsure if I should look for a 4 S or stick to the base Carrera, in terms of spec, parking sensors would be nice and the PASM along with cruise control and a reversing camera.
I don’t like too harsh a ride

I’m not sure in terms of spec what else is a must have is there an upgraded sat nav and hard drive for music?

My kids are 7 and 10 so 7 year old is still in a car seat so hoping there is enough room for them, although journeys won’t be too long.

I think I will only buy from OPC but I’ve heard they are notorious for not discounting unless this is only on new cars?

I think the later model you mention is the one I want, hopefully with a budget of £65k I can find a nice one.

I think they look great in black as well so would prefer that colour

When are you actually going to go and see one?!

You said in an earlier post on the first page that you’d struggle to go over 60k now your budget is 65k, which is it?

Edited by johnwilliams77 on Thursday 11th July 03:55

[prismv]

johnwilliams77 said:

prismv said:

Yes this all makes sense to me thanks again really helpful

In terms of spec do they all come with Bluetooth and usb as standard?
What about heated seats?

I’m still unsure if I should look for a 4 S or stick to the base Carrera, in terms of spec, parking sensors would be nice and the PASM along with cruise control and a reversing camera.
I don’t like too harsh a ride

I’m not sure in terms of spec what else is a must have is there an upgraded sat nav and hard drive for music?

My kids are 7 and 10 so 7 year old is still in a car seat so hoping there is enough room for them, although journeys won’t be too long.

I think I will only buy from OPC but I’ve heard they are notorious for not discounting unless this is only on new cars?

I think the later model you mention is the one I want, hopefully with a budget of £65k I can find a nice one.

I think they look great in black as well so would prefer that colour

When are you actually going to go and see one?!

You said in an earlier post on the first page that you’d struggle to go over 60k now your budget is 65k, which is it?

Edited by johnwilliams77 on Thursday 11th July 03:55

ASAP really the issue is I will struggle to go back to my local Porsche centre as I went down the Panemera route with a test drive but didn’t proceed so they won’t be to thrilled to let me drive a 911, so I’ll need to find one elsewhere to drive, in terms of budget I was thinking of using my car as a part ex on the deposit but I could always put extra cash down for the right car if it meant the pcp payments were more l affordable so could go to £65k maybe even £70k with the hope of negotiating them down closer to a £65k figure

[Gio G]

prismv said:

ASAP really the issue is I will struggle to go back to my local Porsche centre as I went down the Panemera route with a test drive but didn’t proceed so they won’t be to thrilled to let me drive a 911, so I’ll need to find one elsewhere to drive, in terms of budget I was thinking of using my car as a part ex on the deposit but I could always put extra cash down for the right car if it meant the pcp payments were more l affordable so could go to £65k maybe even £70k with the hope of negotiating them down closer to a £65k figure

I would not worry about that.. People test drive all the time and don't purchase cars.. Just use a different salesman. Also find the car you like, but don't have to take their finance... so many finance options out there that offer better deals.. Always use them to help bring down the monthly price..

Someone earlier mentioned a new 911.. do not discount this, run some figures, as newer they sometimes offer contributions and low rates on finance, better residual value etc..

Good luck, you are making the right decision..

G

[prismv]

Thanks I would love a brand new one as the interior is just amazing, I would be worried I couldn’t afford to spec it too well though but depending On the dealer contribution it could be interesting...

What’s the best way to get this just ask an OPC for the numbers?

Edited by prismv on Thursday 11th July 09:50

[nunpuncher]

anonymous said:

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or based on the number and configuration of the exhaust pipes.

In fear of being extremely harsh to the OP... You need to go do some proper research of your own.

You need to understand the model variations... Carrera, Carrera 4, Carrera S, turbo, GTS... etc then look at the differences between 997.2 991.1 991.2 the different generations of the PDK. And that's before you even start looking at the interior tech you're so interested in.

I think if comfort and tech are priorities on a par with performance, and all trump engagement then a 911 probably isn't the right choice for you. If you just want the badge on your drive then that's what the Panamera, cayenne etc are for.

[prismv]

nunpuncher said:

anonymous said:

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or based on the number and configuration of the exhaust pipes.

In fear of being extremely harsh to the OP... You need to go do some proper research of your own.

You need to understand the model variations... Carrera, Carrera 4, Carrera S, turbo, GTS... etc then look at the differences between 997.2 991.1 991.2 the different generations of the PDK. And that's before you even start looking at the interior tech you're so interested in.

I think if comfort and tech are priorities on a par with performance, and all trump engagement then a 911 probably isn't the right choice for you. If you just want the badge on your drive then that's what the Panamera, cayenne etc are for.

So I came in here looking for advise and am very grateful for all the comments as I’ve had exactly that.
Having not know anything about 911’s I feel a lot better now and have learnt a lot.
Going for a test drive on Saturday.

I was a little blinkered by the cars tech as I’m used to Bmw ands Audi’s fully loaded and I’ve come to rely on those driving aids hence why it was a concern for this car but I understand those don’t really matter in a 911 now.

The car that I think will be best for me is the standard Carrera 991.2 maybe an S if I can get one in budget with a good spec but I’m sure the standard care has enough power for me.

I have had a look at the 992 and these look immense but even with some dealer support I can’t justify £90k to £100k on a car that I’ll do 15k miles in tops even if I could afford it.

Looking forward to the test drive, the trick is to find a good one now that I can enjoy.

[DJMC]

But still do more online research to understand models, or you could make a mistake due to over excitement!

It'll take hours and hours of surfing to know even the basics on models and spec. But don't skimp this or you'll just have the dealer to rely on. That's a no-no.