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Stupot123 said:
I don’t know where you would get stats like that, don’t know if Porsche eventually give out production numbers.
Back in July my OPC had a demo, mine was the first customer car, they had another customer car in build and their next demo ordered. All were PDK, although hardly a representative sample.
Just to make clear I am not dissing a manual gearbox, just that it isn’t for me and that now seems to be the general consensus. Ferrari didn’t discontinue it for fun, that was a commercial decision.
I have worked all my life in the motor trade with new company cars every. 3-6 months. My hatred of manual cars came from working with BMW and E46 and E39’s. Horrible notchy heavy short throw gearsticks with a really heavy and long travel clutch pedal that arced away up under the dash. Also they had a heavy flywheel effect and were quite difficult to drive smoothly in traffic. Just hard, hard work. If your new 328 or 525 turned up with a gearstick your heart sank, when it was auto it was a pleasurable few months.
Then we moved on to the newer gen stuff with the ZF 8 speed or dual clutches, they are incredible and do such a good job of things I couldn’t go back.
Interesting subject re longer term values for manuals. Less popular choices at the time tend to result in more value latter on as they are rarer, but there will come a point where the next generation can’t drive them. Kids will only have auto licenses as soon as the driving instructors have to move over to electric tuition cars, which probably isn’t as far away as it seems.
Anyway, potential an endless debate with no one being in the right or wrong. Buy what you like and enjoy.
You’re a proper auto man!! Back in July my OPC had a demo, mine was the first customer car, they had another customer car in build and their next demo ordered. All were PDK, although hardly a representative sample.
Just to make clear I am not dissing a manual gearbox, just that it isn’t for me and that now seems to be the general consensus. Ferrari didn’t discontinue it for fun, that was a commercial decision.
I have worked all my life in the motor trade with new company cars every. 3-6 months. My hatred of manual cars came from working with BMW and E46 and E39’s. Horrible notchy heavy short throw gearsticks with a really heavy and long travel clutch pedal that arced away up under the dash. Also they had a heavy flywheel effect and were quite difficult to drive smoothly in traffic. Just hard, hard work. If your new 328 or 525 turned up with a gearstick your heart sank, when it was auto it was a pleasurable few months.
Then we moved on to the newer gen stuff with the ZF 8 speed or dual clutches, they are incredible and do such a good job of things I couldn’t go back.
Interesting subject re longer term values for manuals. Less popular choices at the time tend to result in more value latter on as they are rarer, but there will come a point where the next generation can’t drive them. Kids will only have auto licenses as soon as the driving instructors have to move over to electric tuition cars, which probably isn’t as far away as it seems.
Anyway, potential an endless debate with no one being in the right or wrong. Buy what you like and enjoy.
FrankCayman said:
You’re a proper auto man!!
Yeh, you have me sussed!I could go on, but don’t want to take the thread off topic, plus it would result in me having to hand in my PH pass!
Ok, just one more to destroy my street cred. There were always spare demo’s that were unallocated as we were made run way more cars than staff. It tended to be the heavier stuff that no one wanted to fuel or pay the benefit in kind. There was no issue taking one for the weekend, and there was many a weekend I didn’t take an M3, M5 or actually even a Z8 just because of their hateful manuals! The weight of the clutch in an E39 M5 and Z8 can genuinely make your leg hurt after a few junctions, weird how they are thought of so fondly by everyone now!
Hi. Excited to have a T allocation and looking forward to trying a 911 after 15 years of Cayman(s)….
Can anyone let me know if the T has the lithium battery if you DO NOT have RWS. Just thinking if I need to get a new battery conditioner as always had lead acid battery’s before.
Thanks!
Can anyone let me know if the T has the lithium battery if you DO NOT have RWS. Just thinking if I need to get a new battery conditioner as always had lead acid battery’s before.
Thanks!
PS…Try the CTEK charger which is basically the Porsche branded version but significantly less. I’m finding unless
the car is used frequently leaving it on charge is a wise move in winter.A flat battery in a 992 is no fun since mechanical opening of the drivers door is often tricky and then requires power to open the front lid
the car is used frequently leaving it on charge is a wise move in winter.A flat battery in a 992 is no fun since mechanical opening of the drivers door is often tricky and then requires power to open the front lid
foresterlad said:
PS…Try the CTEK charger which is basically the Porsche branded version but significantly less. I’m finding unless
the car is used frequently leaving it on charge is a wise move in winter.A flat battery in a 992 is no fun since mechanical opening of the drivers door is often tricky and then requires power to open the front lid
What would you class as not using the car frequently? One week, two weeks? My T is arriving soon and it will be an everyday car, but there will be periods where it won't be used for a week. I've never had a charger on any of my previous cars.the car is used frequently leaving it on charge is a wise move in winter.A flat battery in a 992 is no fun since mechanical opening of the drivers door is often tricky and then requires power to open the front lid
DMC2 said:
foresterlad said:
PS…Try the CTEK charger which is basically the Porsche branded version but significantly less. I’m finding unless
the car is used frequently leaving it on charge is a wise move in winter.A flat battery in a 992 is no fun since mechanical opening of the drivers door is often tricky and then requires power to open the front lid
What would you class as not using the car frequently? One week, two weeks? My T is arriving soon and it will be an everyday car, but there will be periods where it won't be used for a week. I've never had a charger on any of my previous cars.the car is used frequently leaving it on charge is a wise move in winter.A flat battery in a 992 is no fun since mechanical opening of the drivers door is often tricky and then requires power to open the front lid
FYI - if you trickle charge via the cigarette lighter socket once the battery is fully charged the car will 'switch off' the socket and it won't continue to condition/maintain the battery. For long term maintenance you need to connect to the battery and dedicated -ve terminal on the 992.
iMungo said:
FYI - if you trickle charge via the cigarette lighter socket once the battery is fully charged the car will 'switch off' the socket and it won't continue to condition/maintain the battery. For long term maintenance you need to connect to the battery and dedicated -ve terminal on the 992.
There's a socket in the passenger footwell that remains active. You need to plug the charger in within around 10 minutes of turning off the ignition. If you simply unlock the car after a period of inactivity and plug in it won't work, so turn the ignition on and off and then plug in.I own the Porsche-branded CTEK charger, which I found reasonably priced at around £130 from a main dealer. Interestingly, on both occasions I connected it, the battery took a while to reach optimal levels from an indicated low health. For a weekend car, it's a no-brainer for me. I also think I read information suggesting marginal differences between the Porsche-branded version and the CTEK available online. Probably it’s the fact the Porsche branded one has Porsche printed on the top and costs 40% more .
There has been extensive correspondence regarding 992 battery charging on the Porsche Club forum
My experience of the lithium battery suggests it is good practice to maintain it fully charged in winter when the drain is obviously higher in use. Also the car will cause battery discharges when not in use .
The procedure for charging from the socket in the footwell works for
me with the cable exiting via the leading edge of the passenger door.
After turning off ignition the charger needs turning on within a minute
My experience of the lithium battery suggests it is good practice to maintain it fully charged in winter when the drain is obviously higher in use. Also the car will cause battery discharges when not in use .
The procedure for charging from the socket in the footwell works for
me with the cable exiting via the leading edge of the passenger door.
After turning off ignition the charger needs turning on within a minute
My dealer supplied the Porsche ctek charger with the purchase. When it’s in my garage the passenger side is close to the wall, so getting access to plug the charger in was a problem. There is an accessory adaper that can be ordered which the dealer hard wired to the battery, which effectively gives you a cigarette socket in the front boot. Makes it easy to open, route the cable down past the wipers and scuttle, plug it in and close the lid. Seems a decent solution.
Also done a little modification, I should actually have played a little spot the difference game with you!
For some reason the grey T wheels didn’t have the option of coloured centre crests on the configurator. I think it’s to keep the look clean and was done on purpose, and it does look fine without them, but having had them on my previous cars I couldn’t help but feel they were missing. So dealer ordered separately and fitted.
Also done a little modification, I should actually have played a little spot the difference game with you!
For some reason the grey T wheels didn’t have the option of coloured centre crests on the configurator. I think it’s to keep the look clean and was done on purpose, and it does look fine without them, but having had them on my previous cars I couldn’t help but feel they were missing. So dealer ordered separately and fitted.
G40R_JL said:
I much prefer the coloured crests. Your car looks really smart. Do you have the part number? I want to get a set too for when mine arrives.
Thank you, Gentian Blue does pop in the sun!Yeh, I think the centres finish it off and make it look a bit more premium, although aware it’s very much down to personal preference, the standard ones do look fine.
You need 4 of these bad boys!
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