992 GT3.. is here....

[Porsche911R]

993rsr said:

And as for posting the picture of the RS, imagine how you'd feel if that was your car Dave. Thoughtless at the very least.

The cars for sale on the open market and in the public domain, so cannot see anything wrong in posting a car for sale.

Never nice to see cars like these crashed, but this car is for sale as stated.
And on PH we have a Porsche thread to protect people from buying repaired cars at full list price.

So the very reverse of thoughtless.

Edited by Porsche911R on Wednesday 9th December 12:36

[2010spy]

Melvynr said:

This is what I call rotation

https://youtu.be/32I0Qso4sDg

That’s just the morning commute for MrD.

[Jim1556]

Digga said:

Correct. Just after Schwedenkreuz, on the way into Aremburg.

For the benefit of those who've never been (I know Dr S knows it) it's a frightening section, with the crest at Schwedenkreuz being one of the faster sections of track and this left hand corner following it also has a crest on the way in. When I was being taught the circuit, I was told NEVER to lft there. I always try to have a quick brake before the crest and always have a little, balancing throttle.

I can't imagine what a 991 GT3 will do in that area - in my 16 yr old M3 I usually hit the crest around 140mph, let the car settle, scrub off some speed and coast over the LH rise, back on it then stamp on the anchors for Aremberg. You're right, it's a frightening section, up there with the drop into Pflantzgarten 2 (before Stefan Bellof S!

Still brilliant though...

[Porsche911R]

Jim1556 said:

I can't imagine what a 991 GT3 will do in that area - in my 16 yr old M3 I usually hit the crest around 140mph, let the car settle, scrub off some speed and coast over the LH rise, back on it then stamp on the anchors for Aremberg. You're right, it's a frightening section, up there with the drop into Pflantzgarten 2 (before Stefan Bellof S!

Still brilliant though...

"Schwedenkreuz entry bump would be removed, The track management has decided to change the asphalt over winter 2019, We are told that while the Sx bump is gone etc etc .

OF course, the said removal makes things safer, as many novices were caught out by the configuration. Then again, this also removes a bit of the fun for the hardcore Ring adventurers. And it should also shave a bit of time off the lap numbers, which means the battle for the various records might just start all over again."

[Cunno]

Porsche911R said:

Jim1556 said:

I can't imagine what a 991 GT3 will do in that area - in my 16 yr old M3 I usually hit the crest around 140mph, let the car settle, scrub off some speed and coast over the LH rise, back on it then stamp on the anchors for Aremberg. You're right, it's a frightening section, up there with the drop into Pflantzgarten 2 (before Stefan Bellof S!

Still brilliant though...

"Schwedenkreuz entry bump would be removed, The track management has decided to change the asphalt over winter 2019, We are told that while the Sx bump is gone etc etc .

OF course, the said removal makes things safer, as many novices were caught out by the configuration. Then again, this also removes a bit of the fun for the hardcore Ring adventurers. And it should also shave a bit of time off the lap numbers, which means the battle for the various records might just start all over again."

You been copy and pasting again? All of this not a concern for you is it

[Porsche911R]

Cunno said:

You been copy and pasting again? All of this not a concern for you is it

yes hence it's in "" but the humps been removed and 5 parts of the track are easier, that's a fact be it a copy or paste or not.

I'll be at the ring in 2021 so any extra info gained is nice to note esp key dangerous area's or new area's which have been changed.

so either post about the track or don't post is my best advice. the inherent Trolling on people which are not on topic are dull I would not normally reply to Trolls but it's the same 11/12 people who Troll every thread So I made an exception this time as a reminder to not *** * ****

Edited by Porsche911R on Thursday 10th December 10:28

[Digga]

Cunno said:

Porsche911R said:

Jim1556 said:

I can't imagine what a 991 GT3 will do in that area - in my 16 yr old M3 I usually hit the crest around 140mph, let the car settle, scrub off some speed and coast over the LH rise, back on it then stamp on the anchors for Aremberg. You're right, it's a frightening section, up there with the drop into Pflantzgarten 2 (before Stefan Bellof S!

Still brilliant though...

"Schwedenkreuz entry bump would be removed, The track management has decided to change the asphalt over winter 2019, We are told that while the Sx bump is gone etc etc .

OF course, the said removal makes things safer, as many novices were caught out by the configuration. Then again, this also removes a bit of the fun for the hardcore Ring adventurers. And it should also shave a bit of time off the lap numbers, which means the battle for the various records might just start all over again."

You been copy and pasting again? All of this not a concern for you is it

There's still a crest at SX and there's still something of a rise and fall into the lefthander. And you're still going fast.

Changes helped, but it's still a very scary part of the track IME.

[Porsche911R]

Digga said:

hehe:There's still a crest at SX and there's still something of a rise and fall into the lefthander. And you're still going fast.

Changes helped, but it's still a very scary part of the track IME.

Still looks scary as people keep crashing there.

I'll pay for a few Apex taxi laps 1st then a few laps in my car with an instructor 2nd before I tackle the ring on my own.

[Digga]

Jim1556 said:

I can't imagine what a 991 GT3 will do in that area - in my 16 yr old M3 I usually hit the crest around 140mph, let the car settle, scrub off some speed and coast over the LH rise, back on it then stamp on the anchors for Aremberg. You're right, it's a frightening section, up there with the drop into Pflantzgarten 2 (before Stefan Bellof S!

Still brilliant though...

I actually enjoy the drop at Pflantzgartern 2.

I think the two places that scare most are the faster ones, where it's impossible to 100% see slower cars ahead; SX-Aremberg, Tiergarten (crest into the corner well over 100, even in wet) and the faster lefts on Kesselchen to a lesser degree, as they're not quite as unsighted.

I think my favourite bit is the descent into and through the compression at Fuchsrohre. that whole Aremberg to Adenaur Forst stretch is epic if you get a clear run.

[Steve Rance]

Porsche911R said:

"Schwedenkreuz entry bump would be removed, The track management has decided to change the asphalt over winter 2019, We are told that while the Sx bump is gone etc etc .

OF course, the said removal makes things safer, as many novices were caught out by the configuration. Then again, this also removes a bit of the fun for the hardcore Ring adventurers. And it should also shave a bit of time off the lap numbers, which means the battle for the various records might just start all over again."

The ring is just a series on corners joined together with straights. Thats all that any circuit is. Far better to learn the skills to manage the more difficult sections of any circuit than engineer them out of the surface in the first place.

To become accomplished, a driver needs to be able to deal with all types of road sufaces, and grip levels.

[av185]

Steve Rance said:

The ring is just a series on corners joined together with straights. Thats all that any circuit is. Far better to learn the skills to manage the more difficult sections of any circuit than engineer them out of the surface in the first place.

To become accomplished, a driver needs to be able to deal with all types of road sufaces, and grip levels.

Quite.

Always amazes me when interesting public 'driving' roads are straightened out or altered/widened in the name of 'road safety' after they are deemed 'dangerous' when everyone is aware it is not the section of road that is dangerous but the numpties driving along it who fail to possess even basic driving skills and possess little if any roadcraft whatsoever and furthermore are often reluctant to improve them.

[Dr S]

Steve Rance said:

Porsche911R said:

"Schwedenkreuz entry bump would be removed, The track management has decided to change the asphalt over winter 2019, We are told that while the Sx bump is gone etc etc .

OF course, the said removal makes things safer, as many novices were caught out by the configuration. Then again, this also removes a bit of the fun for the hardcore Ring adventurers. And it should also shave a bit of time off the lap numbers, which means the battle for the various records might just start all over again."

The ring is just a series on corners joined together with straights. Thats all that any circuit is. Far better to learn the skills to manage the more difficult sections of any circuit than engineer them out of the surface in the first place.

To become accomplished, a driver needs to be able to deal with all types of road sufaces, and grip levels.

What he said!

I am no big fan of taking out the challenging bits either. Schwedenkreuz jump really only requires to you keep both car and steering pointing straight. The following lefthander with the kink requires a clean line, properly hitting the apex properly and steady inputs. It's every lap a highlight for me.

Edited by Dr S on Thursday 10th December 14:39

[Spyder75]

So I take it talking about the 992 gt3 is a bit off topic for this thread :-)

I am considering changing my 3rs WP for a 992 touring.. Obviously have to see the full car and the reviews first...

I'd love to know peoples thoughts..

[rkwm1]

Heard from a relatively reliable source, that number of cars will be less than last time, this time around!

[Nurburgsingh]

Steve Rance said:

The ring is just a series on corners joined together with straights. Thats all that any circuit is. Far better to learn the skills to manage the more difficult sections of any circuit than engineer them out of the surface in the first place.

To become accomplished, a driver needs to be able to deal with all types of road sufaces, and grip levels.

someone should have told this guy...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNZalGQ46NQ

[av185]

rkwm1 said:

Heard from a relatively reliable source, that number of cars will be less than last time, this time around!

In truth no-one knows at this early stage.

[Taffy66]

Spyder75 said:

So I take it talking about the 992 gt3 is a bit off topic for this thread :-)

I am considering changing my 3rs WP for a 992 touring.. Obviously have to see the full car and the reviews first...

I'd love to know peoples thoughts..

I'm considering doing exactly the same thing but still undecided. Will also wait to see it and check out some reviews and stats. However am nowhere near as excited about it as i was when waiting for my RS WP.
No way i can justify both either in money terms or usage so will need to make a difficult decision in the next few months. Even if i decide to get a 992 Touring i'll be pressing for a PTS colour and might even go for the PDK rather than Manual.

[Spyder75]

Taffy66 said:

I'm considering doing exactly the same thing but still undecided. Will also wait to see it and check out some reviews and stats. However am nowhere near as excited about it as i was when waiting for my RS WP.
No way i can justify both either in money terms or usage so will need to make a difficult decision in the next few months. Even if i decide to get a 992 Touring i'll be pressing for a PTS colour and might even go for the PDK rather than Manual.

Interesting Taffy, that’s what I am contemplating. Hard to let go of the RS that’s for sure.

[GT4RS]

rkwm1 said:

Heard from a relatively reliable source, that number of cars will be less than last time, this time around!

Porsche make money selling cars, why would they even consider making less as they can sell everyone they make.

Not a chance

[Melvynr]

Guys a one off bargain for 991 GT3 owner.

A pal of mine has a brand new indoor genuine cover with red stripe down centre of it, still in the box and never used, wants £150 for it.Anyone wants it i will get his email or phone number so you can sort out payment and shipping.Cheers.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Genuine-Porsche-991...