Anyone for ‘T’
Discussion
Northcote67 said:
there’s a lot of new stock still in the network and that’s being discounted which is hitting used prices?
I see two new Carrera T's for sale, one at £126K which doesn't appear discounted to me? in comparison there are 13 GTS 911's available.
7 if you include the dealer pre-reg cars and 28 in total. I see two new Carrera T's for sale, one at £126K which doesn't appear discounted to me? in comparison there are 13 GTS 911's available.
A lot of the new stock seems to have moved so that’s good news.
But still 28 on the website plus I know there’s more stock in dealerships too that they haven’t advertised.
I’m not looking to have an argument with anyone - I was giving my thoughts and comments - the T is a great car and if you can get one at a good price lightly used it’s a steal as long as your don’t want to sell it quickly. If you’ve bought one new and want to change it then that’s a different story as they aren’t depreciation free or low. But that’s the story for a lot of Porsches atm including like you say the GTS which is about to have a new Model announced in the next few weeks.
Stupot123 said:
Conscious I don't want to sound argumentative, so please don't read it that way, just discussing.
To give you £85k and add a margin of £10-12k would mean retailing at £97k, not far off what you paid new.
My 2024 PDK with 1000 miles with nice mid spec just sat for 4 months at £99k. Don't know what they eventually got back for it.
I wouldn't think it realistic a 2023 MY manual with minimal options would sell at anywhere near £97k, and the OPC's know that. I would actually think they would be quite scared of it, that's a niche within a niche within a niche inhabited by the PH few.
None of my business, so don't answer, just thinking out loud. Was the £85k a firm cash outright purchase bid that they were standing the car at, or was it a p/x where potentially they were overallowing from the new car, or maybe even sale or return where they didn't bear the stocking risk?
See why I am saying what you are suggesting would be a tough ask. Snap their arm off and run.
Outright, but your maths are flawed to make £10k gm they’d need to sell at £95k. This doesn’t need a penny spending.To give you £85k and add a margin of £10-12k would mean retailing at £97k, not far off what you paid new.
My 2024 PDK with 1000 miles with nice mid spec just sat for 4 months at £99k. Don't know what they eventually got back for it.
I wouldn't think it realistic a 2023 MY manual with minimal options would sell at anywhere near £97k, and the OPC's know that. I would actually think they would be quite scared of it, that's a niche within a niche within a niche inhabited by the PH few.
None of my business, so don't answer, just thinking out loud. Was the £85k a firm cash outright purchase bid that they were standing the car at, or was it a p/x where potentially they were overallowing from the new car, or maybe even sale or return where they didn't bear the stocking risk?
See why I am saying what you are suggesting would be a tough ask. Snap their arm off and run.
Mines possibly closer to new, it’s been used on a big European tour in dry weather then sparingly - as opposed to lots of short journeys and has lived in a garage under a dust sheet when not in use - so it really is factory fresh.
I think the 8-9% lower price on the first few helped anybody who got an early one, + as per another poster, had all options been been available then i’d have struggled not to tick Bose and buckets and possibly pts….
I’m not 100% sure, I don’t have any finance burning a hole in my pocket and there’s a f type cab for sunny days in the other half of the garage
I quite fancy a 50% depreciated taycan tourismo or macan ev at some point.
We’ll see.
Shiverman said:
7 if you include the dealer pre-reg cars and 28 in total.
A lot of the new stock seems to have moved so that’s good news.
But still 28 on the website plus I know there’s more stock in dealerships too that they haven’t advertised.
I’m not looking to have an argument with anyone - I was giving my thoughts and comments - the T is a great car and if you can get one at a good price lightly used it’s a steal as long as your don’t want to sell it quickly. If you’ve bought one new and want to change it then that’s a different story as they aren’t depreciation free or low. But that’s the story for a lot of Porsches atm including like you say the GTS which is about to have a new Model announced in the next few weeks.
A lot of the new stock seems to have moved so that’s good news.
But still 28 on the website plus I know there’s more stock in dealerships too that they haven’t advertised.
I’m not looking to have an argument with anyone - I was giving my thoughts and comments - the T is a great car and if you can get one at a good price lightly used it’s a steal as long as your don’t want to sell it quickly. If you’ve bought one new and want to change it then that’s a different story as they aren’t depreciation free or low. But that’s the story for a lot of Porsches atm including like you say the GTS which is about to have a new Model announced in the next few weeks.
bennno said:
Outright, but your maths are flawed to make £10k gm they’d need to sell at £95k.
You are right my maths are dodgy.At cost £85k and selling at £97k that would make them £9600.
Although not as dodgy as yours, £95k would only make them £8k.
No OPC’s I’ve dealt with or worked with would get out of bed for that!
Unless it’s something they have had in stock for 90 days, but that wouldn’t apply to a fresh cash purchase.
Stupot123 said:
bennno said:
Outright, but your maths are flawed to make £10k gm they’d need to sell at £95k.
You are right my maths are dodgy.At cost £85k and selling at £97k that would make them £9600.
Although not as dodgy as yours, £95k would only make them £8k.
No OPC’s I’ve dealt with or worked with would get out of bed for that!
Unless it’s something they have had in stock for 90 days, but that wouldn’t apply to a fresh cash purchase.
All about supply and demand, market was terrible Jan / Feb, it’s slightly better now, will improve a lot if interest rates drop.
kmpowell said:
Pe-owned - 10 miles? kmpowell said:
That's a lovely colour, and I wouldn't normally like green, but very classy.But having said that, as we have been discussing, that's worth £85k once its turned a wheel, an instant £40k bath.
So you would need to either be in it for the long run, or too rich to care!
Stupot123 said:
kmpowell said:
That's a lovely colour, and I wouldn't normally like green, but very classy.But having said that, as we have been discussing, that's worth £85k once its turned a wheel, an instant £40k bath.
So you would need to either be in it for the long run, or too rich to care!
Stupot123 said:
Stupot123 said:
kmpowell said:
That's a lovely colour, and I wouldn't normally like green, but very classy.But having said that, as we have been discussing, that's worth £85k once its turned a wheel, an instant £40k bath.
So you would need to either be in it for the long run, or too rich to care!
It will be interesting to see what’s happens with the launch of the 992.2 having no manual.
Chipper said:
If you put that car in webuyanycar ( you have to manualy put the information in ) you get a quote of £81000. Dealers are paying £85000.
It will be interesting to see what’s happens with the launch of the 992.2 having no manual.
Nobody would sell privately for the same as you can get from webuyanycar, their offer is a price at which they make a profit passing it to BCA, who make a 6% profit selling it to a dealer, who makes a profit selling it to a customer.It will be interesting to see what’s happens with the launch of the 992.2 having no manual.
WBAC is typically 20-30% below market retail other than in exceptional circumstances.
If you can buy privately for 10-12% above WBAC then you've brought at 3-5% below the cars trade value.
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