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Pflanzgarten

4,080 posts

27 months

Thursday 23rd November 2023
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Made an offer on a GT3 RS last week, a double digit percent lower offer admittedly - it's been on sale for over a year now with two dealerships, with it's current one since spring this year. It has asset finance on it and is on sale or return.

No ball. They came back with a less than 5% discount so at least are open to offers but it's still too much in my book.

Going to look at a private sale one this weekend instead.

Pivo-T

1,088 posts

37 months

Thursday 23rd November 2023
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Pflanzgarten said:
Made an offer on a GT3 RS last week, a double digit percent lower offer admittedly - it's been on sale for over a year now with two dealerships, with it's current one since spring this year. It has asset finance on it and is on sale or return.

No ball. They came back with a less than 5% discount so at least are open to offers but it's still too much in my book.

Going to look at a private sale one this weekend instead.
Its a buyers' market, @Pflanzgarten, very keen to see what deal are you able to land.

GT4P

5,234 posts

187 months

Thursday 23rd November 2023
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Part of an email I received a few days ago: (Edited centre,date and times)

“We are delighted to invite you to our exclusive sales event taking place across six days at Porsche Centre ……
Date: …..
Time: …..

Over these six days, we will be offering some special VIP prices on selected new Porsche models. These will only be available during the event here at the showroom and on vehicles that are ordered and delivered by 23 December 2023*.

If you are considering a new Porsche model, this will be the perfect opportunity to discuss with our Sales Team who will be on hand to answer any questions and to arrange a future test drive. All accompanied by complimentary refreshments.

If you already have a Porsche and would like to part-exchange* or obtain a free bespoke valuation our expert team will be on hand to answer any questions you may have.”

ChrisW.

6,375 posts

257 months

Thursday 23rd November 2023
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200Plus Club said:
Bailey. said:
Gt4 is an odd one in this market.

Great car, but virtually unusable on most British roads for 6 months out of 12. Expensive track toy really.

People thought they could buy one and not lose a penny.
9 months I would say decent use with PS4 tyres. Certainly not with cup2 !
I use mine all the year round.

981, one owner, 34,000 miles ... PS4's now fitted, Cup2's will be back on in April ... it's the most practical sports car I have ever owned. All my track day stuff lives in the front boot and I use the rear boot when I am travelling (or shopping) ....

Contrast and compare it to the 992 GT3RS where there is barely enough room for the driver, passenger and their helmets ?? There I would agree with you smile

CK11

273 posts

186 months

Thursday 23rd November 2023
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anonymous said:
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Yip, thats all it takes. Everyone has their own thoughts on whats cheap or whats expensive, and for what it is, imo and probably most other people, thought that one was overpriced. The op obviously thought different.
As i said, each to their own. Good luck to them hope they drive and enjoy it.

av185

18,649 posts

129 months

Thursday 23rd November 2023
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Bailey. said:
Gt4 is an odd one in this market.

Great car, but virtually unusable on most British roads for 6 months out of 12.

scratchchin

You are clearly not talking from experience....

GT4P

5,234 posts

187 months

Thursday 23rd November 2023
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Off topic but I would agree the GT4 is pretty useable nearly all year round. From my experience with the 981 version I did my PEC on a cold wet day and on the cup2s the car felt very comfortable and controllable. I picked my new car up on a very cold January morning no problems driving in those conditions either. Remember the cup2s are far better than the tyres fitted to most cars back in the 80s/90s!
Always drive to the conditions no matter what car you are driving.
Some said the same about the 987Spyder and its roof yet I drove back from the airport in absolute stinker of a storm and the roof never leaked and then there is a fella who posts on here who has done like 120k miles in his as a daily.
Problem is most modern Porsche GT buyers don’t like taking their cars out the garage and doing miles in case it affects the value!

GT4P

5,234 posts

187 months

Thursday 23rd November 2023
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anonymous said:
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Agreed, especially with the names mentioned hence why I said many not all buyers! A lot of Gt products have been bought over the last few years by flippers, speculators and those who cannot afford but only because of PCP and low interest rates, hence the low miles on many cars for sale!
Some of those names you mention were also frozen out of buying the latest models due to the way allocations have been given over the last few years!

SL550M

596 posts

112 months

Thursday 23rd November 2023
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Cossers, absolutely hits the nail on the head here. I couldn’t agree more. Back in the day, I bought a mint, used 996.2 GT3 at an OPC as my daily driver. Paid £52,000 in 2007 as I recall. It was a 40th birthday present to myself. I picked it up in February and drove it virtually every day. Loved it! And fully expected it to fall steeply in value just like every other car I’d owned. And it duly did. That was the price of pleasure and I was happy to pay it. I’d done the same with a used 993 C4S a few years earlier. When the 981 GT4 was announced I tried to get one from the same OPC and failed. Ditto the first 991 GT3. Was basically told I had no chance and I left Porsche and bought a Ferrari. I’m rambling on…but I confess it did rather bother me that people were getting GT cars ahead of me (and other enthusiasts, for want of a better word) and flipping them, not driving them. I know, boo hoo and all that. smile But a return to normality is surely both welcome and overdue.

Sukh13

771 posts

187 months

Thursday 23rd November 2023
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CK11 said:
stuckmojo said:
CK11 said:
I see the same dealer , eden group, that i enquired about the silver one above has dropped the price of the white one they have in. Things starting to move i hope.
I be tempted on the white one at £55k
this one? that Autotrader tracker is a brilliant thing

I threw them out an offer late last night for this white one. Got an email this morning that it was still available. I rang a couple of hours ago to be told it was now sold. My offer probably wouldnt have been accepted anyway but its gone now.
The silver one that they also had i see if no longer advertised on their website so must be gone also.
They both didnt hang around long after their latest price drops.
Silver one is back on AT.

Started at 67k in Feb, re-advertised and now down to 54,500.



GT4P

5,234 posts

187 months

Thursday 23rd November 2023
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Remember the days of the fella who had the 997Gt3 who used it to cross continents delivering I think plane parts, it racked up something like 150k! Was really enjoyable to read instead of correct flippers spec. and stitching!

Chemical Ali

922 posts

219 months

Thursday 23rd November 2023
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GT4P said:
Remember the days of the fella who had the 997Gt3 who used it to cross continents delivering I think plane parts, it racked up something like 150k! Was really enjoyable to read instead of correct flippers spec. and stitching!
+1. Car lovers not cash lovers.

Honeywell

1,381 posts

100 months

Thursday 23rd November 2023
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This seems like a lot in one day.


av185

18,649 posts

129 months

Thursday 23rd November 2023
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GT4P said:
Remember the days of the fella who had the 997Gt3 who used it to cross continents delivering I think plane parts, it racked up something like 150k! Was really enjoyable to read instead of correct flippers spec. and stitching!
Look forward to reading your 150k mile GT3 experiences when you eventually buy one.... biggrin:

GT4P

5,234 posts

187 months

Thursday 23rd November 2023
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Firstly AV since when have I ever mentioned about me buying a GT product?
Secondly for you to post such a response I must have touched a nerve!

av185

18,649 posts

129 months

Thursday 23rd November 2023
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GT4P said:
Firstly AV since when have I ever mentioned about me buying a GT product?
Secondly for you to post such a response I must have touched a nerve!
Not at all! beer

Thought you owned a 981 GT4 at some point.

Bailey.

193 posts

11 months

Thursday 23rd November 2023
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bigmowley said:
Sorry but that is rubbish. Totally fine all year round. Winter tyres in winter, Cup 2s the rest of the time.
GT4



Spyder


Everyone I’ve asked with a GT4 if I could daily one says no.

No front lift, front splitter becomes a disposable item and one driving mode (track). Gearing doesn’t really suit road driving either.

I love them and if I thought I’d get away with one I would.

Actus Reus

4,236 posts

157 months

Thursday 23rd November 2023
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Bailey. said:
Everyone I’ve asked with a GT4 if I could daily one says no.

No front lift, front splitter becomes a disposable item and one driving mode (track). Gearing doesn’t really suit road driving either.

I love them and if I thought I’d get away with one I would.
You could easily daily one I'd say, though I'd personally rather daily something a little softer. The gearing is long and it frustrated me a bit at times, but it's not a fatal flaw. The buckets would probably irk me day-to-day, but there's plenty without that option. Otherwise the only thing I really didn't like was the cylinder deactivatoin mode on a cruise. It droned a bit.

Strange market at present for 718 GT4s though - even quite a bit below 80k decent cars are hanging around a bit.

Sukh13

771 posts

187 months

Thursday 23rd November 2023
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Actus Reus said:
Strange market at present for 718 GT4s though - even quite a bit below 80k decent cars are hanging around a bit.
Lots of cars are hanging around at the moment, winter or slow down...?

av185

18,649 posts

129 months

Thursday 23rd November 2023
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Sukh13 said:
Actus Reus said:
Strange market at present for 718 GT4s though - even quite a bit below 80k decent cars are hanging around a bit.
Lots of cars are hanging around at the moment, winter or slow down...?
Comforts.