VIN discrepancy 3.2 Carrera

VIN discrepancy 3.2 Carrera

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Rich_AR

1,964 posts

206 months

Saturday 22nd February 2020
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supersport said:
That’l be it on a LHD. Totally different. But as other poster said if it’s done right.
Exactly. I’m showing it as a reference point. OP posted pics beforehand and looks to have a RHD smugglers panel/box. So it’s been replaced. Obviously hard to say how well it’s been done without a PPI. smile


Edited by Rich_AR on Saturday 22 February 01:34

BertBert

19,132 posts

213 months

Saturday 22nd February 2020
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It has to be redone for a LHD to RHD conversion otherwise where is the brake M/C bolted?

Lungauer

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295 posts

154 months

Tuesday 12th May 2020
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RVVUNM said:
This car needs to be ultra cheap and taken is it stands in front of you now or walk away. I would walk away.
Well, forgive the thread resurrection but apropos the quote above the car is still for sale so I bunged in a cheeky offer. Not yet heard if it has been accepted but if it is I think this might be worth a punt.

I will need to get a PPI done if the offer is accepted. Can anyone recommend someone for East Anglia? Not too keen on Paul Stephens for some reason.

2u2r

23 posts

84 months

Tuesday 12th May 2020
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Just for fun I would have the dealer remove the rear interior panel/parcel shelf & see if the original number is stamped on there & get Porsche AG to check it, has all the hallmarks of a ringer to me. FWIW didn't USA/Jap cars have a VIN plate riveted to the left hand A pillar just above where we used to put our tax discs? The holes must still be there if they did.

BertBert

19,132 posts

213 months

Wednesday 13th May 2020
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Lungauer said:
Well, forgive the thread resurrection but apropos the quote above the car is still for sale so I bunged in a cheeky offer. Not yet heard if it has been accepted but if it is I think this might be worth a punt.

I will need to get a PPI done if the offer is accepted. Can anyone recommend someone for East Anglia? Not too keen on Paul Stephens for some reason.
I hate myself for saying this as I can't abide the unreasonable stigma attached to oddball cars, but be really sure that the price is right and the car is right for you. My hot rod that I had built on a US L to R G50 conversion probably lost £25k in value compared to if I'd had it built on a proper UK RHD shell and it was a complete pita to sell.

Hope it works out ok. I can't recommend anyone in the area for PPI, but make sure you get someone who is known to do a thorough job. Talk through in detail what they are going to do. The last one I had that was contracted out to a Porsche Club techie big knob was completely appalling. The car had been restored and he did little more that look round the outside, talk to the restorer and tell me what it was. Didn't look underneath, didn't run the engine, didn't test drive. And even then told me things he made up (engine has got oil-fed tensioners when it didn't) - how do you make that mistake?

Hope it goes well!

Bert


Fastpedeller

3,906 posts

148 months

Wednesday 13th May 2020
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[quote=BertBert Talk through in detail what they are going to do. The last one I had that was contracted out to a Porsche Club techie big knob was completely appalling. The car had been restored and he did little more that look round the outside, talk to the restorer and tell me what it was. Didn't look underneath, didn't run the engine, didn't test drive. And even then told me things he made up (engine has got oil-fed tensioners when it didn't) - how do you make that mistake?

Hope it goes well!

Bert


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Did you pay him for the 'advice'?

BertBert

19,132 posts

213 months

Wednesday 13th May 2020
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Fastpedeller said:
BertBert said:
Talk through in detail what they are going to do. The last one I had that was contracted out to a Porsche Club techie big knob was completely appalling. The car had been restored and he did little more that look round the outside, talk to the restorer and tell me what it was. Didn't look underneath, didn't run the engine, didn't test drive. And even then told me things he made up (engine has got oil-fed tensioners when it didn't) - how do you make that mistake?

Hope it goes well!

Bert
Did you pay him for the 'advice'?
It was paid for in advance and my complaint was brushed off. All I have is a(nother) name in my list of useless people in the Porsche world! There are some good people out there, but boy are there some poor ones!

Bert

Iknownothin

113 posts

132 months

Wednesday 13th May 2020
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Could it have been a Caribbean car, even something from say the US Virgin Islands where they drive on the left or do they get a different VIN and chassis ID?

Lungauer

Original Poster:

295 posts

154 months

Thursday 14th May 2020
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BertBert said:
I hate myself for saying this as I can't abide the unreasonable stigma attached to oddball cars, but be really sure that the price is right and the car is right for you. My hot rod that I had built on a US L to R G50 conversion probably lost £25k in value compared to if I'd had it built on a proper UK RHD shell and it was a complete pita to sell.
There speaks the voice of experience and clearly a very good reason to at least be very cautious, if not walk away. The car was originally advertised at £48k and my offer is £33k. Still a lot of money really for a 35 year old dodgy oiler. Add in the resto-modding I wanted to do (including engine work) and it could easily stand me in for £60k plus. Doubtful one would get it back even in the best of times, let alone post Covid, post Brexit, end-of-ICE and whatnot.

If the car turned out to be basically sound I could be left with a very nice, fun air-cooled 911 at the end of it, but my record of hanging on to any vehicle for long is poor.

Orangecurry

7,435 posts

208 months

Thursday 14th May 2020
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Can we have one of these stories every week? Awwww please?

I hope this one has a happy ending smile

BertBert

19,132 posts

213 months

Thursday 14th May 2020
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Lungauer said:
There speaks the voice of experience and clearly a very good reason to at least be very cautious, if not walk away. The car was originally advertised at £48k and my offer is £33k. Still a lot of money really for a 35 year old dodgy oiler. [/b]Add in the resto-modding I wanted to do (including engine work) and it could easily stand me in for £60k plus.[/b]Doubtful one would get it back even in the best of times, let alone post Covid, post Brexit, end-of-ICE and whatnot.

If the car turned out to be basically sound I could be left with a very nice, fun air-cooled 911 at the end of it, but my record of hanging on to any vehicle for long is poor.
Sounds like I'm trying to be your Mum, but having been there and put a lot of money into a US left to right conversion, I'd council caution! The car I (had) built was brilliant and I wanted to evolve it further, but I knew that putting more money in would never come back!

Having a fun "cheap" air cooled car though is another thing entirely! Good luck, let us know how it goes.
Bert

IMI A

9,428 posts

203 months

Thursday 14th May 2020
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Lungauer said:
BertBert said:
I hate myself for saying this as I can't abide the unreasonable stigma attached to oddball cars, but be really sure that the price is right and the car is right for you. My hot rod that I had built on a US L to R G50 conversion probably lost £25k in value compared to if I'd had it built on a proper UK RHD shell and it was a complete pita to sell.
There speaks the voice of experience and clearly a very good reason to at least be very cautious, if not walk away. The car was originally advertised at £48k and my offer is £33k. Still a lot of money really for a 35 year old dodgy oiler. Add in the resto-modding I wanted to do (including engine work) and it could easily stand me in for £60k plus. Doubtful one would get it back even in the best of times, let alone post Covid, post Brexit, end-of-ICE and whatnot.

If the car turned out to be basically sound I could be left with a very nice, fun air-cooled 911 at the end of it, but my record of hanging on to any vehicle for long is poor.
Buy the best air-cooled you can for £60k IMO you'll get something amazing. In fact if there is a resto mod you maybe like up for £60k-£100k put a cheeky bid in. You might be surprised.

Just as example this was up for £100k + not long ago. I'm not sure I'd be in a rush to buy at even £35,000 seriously. I'd go halves with someone though but I don't have the guts to be that cheeky. £35k her money IMO as superchargers on a 964 silly as engine too leaky. Ruined the car with that decision.

http://www.motion8cars.com/1080/

IMI A

9,428 posts

203 months

Thursday 14th May 2020
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All the orange external needs to go. The fuchs should be D90s and we drive till the supercharger blows the 964 engine up - then rebuild properly wink

Adam B

27,393 posts

256 months

Thursday 14th May 2020
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quite like the look

agree lose the horrible orange sills and wing mirror edging, and the odd roll hoop

IMI A

9,428 posts

203 months

Thursday 14th May 2020
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Hood when up looks awful I'd redo in black properly to OEM standard. Black callipers too and then she is a bit more subtle. Quite a bit to spend and I go back to the engine. Supercharger? What were they thinking thats an automatic rebuild but you'd drive till it blows up!

Lungauer

Original Poster:

295 posts

154 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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To update an old thread, the ambiguous 3.2 disappeared from the dealer in the end. I'm not sure whether it sold or was withdrawn, either way that one escaped me and I think I dodged a bullet there. Since then I've journeyed from going classic or staying with my rather brilliant Carrera T, dragging my long suffering family along the way (two of whom arrived just before lockdown and will be glad to get away from my 'tedious' discussions about what I should do about Porsches).

Anyway, on the basis that I had to do the proverbial or get off the pot, today I bought this...

http://www.911virgin.com/porscheforsale/1352/9113....

Different from the 964 I had before. Please someone tell me I've done the right thing.

marky911

4,427 posts

221 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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That looks ace. Ex Dr Mark’s off here.

I had it on a list to view last May but when I rang on the Friday before our Saturday viewing, I was told it had sold.
The salesman was very uninterested and didn’t even take my name incase it fell through.
It did fall through apparently, but I’d bought another GT3 by then, if not it would be mine now.

Lovely car and 1000 times better than the original subject of this thread.
Enjoy!

PS I must add the guy I spoke to at 911V wasn’t Tom. I’ve dealt with Tom before and he’s a gent.
I still rate 911V in my top 3 Porsche dealers but the guy I spoke to that day just didn’t seem interested. Maybe my Geordie accent, or maybe he was just having a bad day. Either way he couldn’t get me off the phone quick enough which I thought a bit odd, given I had £60k burning a hole in my pocket.


ChrisW.

6,375 posts

257 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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I think that's a very classy looking motor.

3.2's are lovely ... and the history looks good.


Crazy4557

675 posts

196 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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Proper high days 'n holiday's car that, looks absolutely lovely with a classy colour scheme. At least you'll retain most of the purchase price on this unlike the original subject car + mods.
I had a new Baltic blue 911 cab in May 89 so fond memories of the colour!

g7jhp

6,971 posts

240 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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Lungauer said:
To update an old thread, the ambiguous 3.2 disappeared from the dealer in the end. I'm not sure whether it sold or was withdrawn, either way that one escaped me and I think I dodged a bullet there. Since then I've journeyed from going classic or staying with my rather brilliant Carrera T, dragging my long suffering family along the way (two of whom arrived just before lockdown and will be glad to get away from my 'tedious' discussions about what I should do about Porsches).

Anyway, on the basis that I had to do the proverbial or get off the pot, today I bought this...

http://www.911virgin.com/porscheforsale/1352/9113....

Different from the 964 I had before. Please someone tell me I've done the right thing.
Well done, 3.2 Carrera Coupe's are great cars I've owned 2 x G50s (when they were sensible money).

Lovely sound, and smell of the oil cooled engine and leather.