Carrera GT 12 year engine out service (pic heavy)

Carrera GT 12 year engine out service (pic heavy)

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SRT Hellcat

7,065 posts

219 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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I believe Manthey have a replacement clutch available that behaves like a normal clutch. I think its 14 or 16000 euros.
Anti stall. On my spin around the block route I have two T junctions that are uphill and require full left lock. The anti stall does not seem to account for the tyre loading as the car moves and stalls. I find treating the clutch like a race car paddle clutch works but with as little rpm as possible and get the clutch out as soon as possible. It took a little while to perfect but it works and in three years of ownership the clutch has the same wear on it as it was when I bought the car. Also change watch from left to right hand for accessing handbrake. Annoyingly to avoid the front bumper under carbon piece just rubbing the ground I have to turn left out of my drive that results in the two difficult T junctions.

stefan1

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977 posts

234 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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SRT Hellcat said:
I believe Manthey have a replacement clutch available that behaves like a normal clutch. I think its 14 or 16000 euros.
Anti stall. On my spin around the block route I have two T junctions that are uphill and require full left lock. The anti stall does not seem to account for the tyre loading as the car moves and stalls. I find treating the clutch like a race car paddle clutch works but with as little rpm as possible and get the clutch out as soon as possible. It took a little while to perfect but it works and in three years of ownership the clutch has the same wear on it as it was when I bought the car. Also change watch from left to right hand for accessing handbrake. Annoyingly to avoid the front bumper under carbon piece just rubbing the ground I have to turn left out of my drive that results in the two difficult T junctions.
smile on changing the watch over - a small but important detail!

stefan1

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977 posts

234 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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Caddyshack said:
Nice write up on the service and so nicely presented! I did not realise these had such regular engine out services.

My friend is one of the others going on the 3 car trip you mentioned, I keep meaning to go over and see his black one again...I saw it a few times with the previous owner.

Do you still have the Yellow 993 RS?, I used to see you a lot on the Paddock Club days...mainly at Bedford.
Thanks. I believe that the original reason for the engine out service was to be able to adjust the valve clearances. Nowadays, I think that can be done with the engine in situ, so strictly speaking taking the engine out isn’t necessary. But I think it is worth it to make sure every component can be inspected and keep the car in as near to perfect condition.

I never had a yellow 993RS, but rather a black one...loved that car!

stefan1

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977 posts

234 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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RSchneider said:
That gearbox company. Hör/Hoer Technologies. Not Hor.

Interesting company.
Yes, sorry, I was lazy not including the umlaut!

They manufacture some fantastic race car gearboxes. Proper outfit.

Megaflow

9,522 posts

227 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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To read later.

(My watch button has disappeared frown )

garypotter

1,561 posts

152 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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Limpet said:
Beautiful car, and great write up. Thanks for sharing. smile
+ 1 a true piston head hero, thank you for sharing.

epom

11,752 posts

163 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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Taffy66 said:
993rsr said:
Flog your WP 991. 2RS for overs (well done BTW) and you are well on the way
Sorry what i meant was has anyone any ideas on how to rob a bank without getting caught..I'm serious..!
This side of the water, a JCB seems to be all that you need.

Digga

40,595 posts

285 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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epom said:
Taffy66 said:
993rsr said:
Flog your WP 991. 2RS for overs (well done BTW) and you are well on the way
Sorry what i meant was has anyone any ideas on how to rob a bank without getting caught..I'm serious..!
This side of the water, a JCB seems to be all that you need.
Not true. Last one was done with a Hitachi and the one before was a Komatsu. HTH

Caddyshack

11,053 posts

208 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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stefan1 said:
Caddyshack said:
Nice write up on the service and so nicely presented! I did not realise these had such regular engine out services.

My friend is one of the others going on the 3 car trip you mentioned, I keep meaning to go over and see his black one again...I saw it a few times with the previous owner.

Do you still have the Yellow 993 RS?, I used to see you a lot on the Paddock Club days...mainly at Bedford.
Thanks. I believe that the original reason for the engine out service was to be able to adjust the valve clearances. Nowadays, I think that can be done with the engine in situ, so strictly speaking taking the engine out isn’t necessary. But I think it is worth it to make sure every component can be inspected and keep the car in as near to perfect condition.

I never had a yellow 993RS, but rather a black one...loved that car!
Ah, mixing ip my RS's...I remember Flemke having a yellow one, Man and Dan having the Red one and Man having the black one before that and then the white one around at the same time...just seem to remember an extra yellow one or maybe you were just in Flemke's? My 911 was black too.

BoxerF50

1,422 posts

193 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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Stunning car and very insightful write up. Thanks for putting it together.

Gary C

12,684 posts

181 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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Inspired my so much I had to go for a blast in my Carrera

Cheers smile

up_shift

397 posts

109 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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thanks for sharing, that's the stuff of dreams. Literally a piece of art and I can't stop staring!

TomScrut

2,547 posts

90 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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Turn7 said:
Love the GT, just looks and sounds right.

That lot must have made you wince though ?
Sounds a bit better than "right" I'd guess!

Turn7

23,789 posts

223 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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TomScrut said:
Turn7 said:
Love the GT, just looks and sounds right.

That lot must have made you wince though ?
Sounds a bit better than "right" I'd guess!
yes

PhilTUK

8 posts

62 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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What a great car! I recall seeing one of the first of these up at the N.E.C around 20years ago. Thanks for sharing the photos and great to see you taking such good care of it.

Steamer

13,905 posts

215 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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PhilTUK said:
What a great car! I recall seeing one of the first of these up at the N.E.C around 20years ago. Thanks for sharing the photos and great to see you taking such good care of it.
Same here, strange coincidence! - Was it a dark silver one packed up in one of the carparks?

Searider

979 posts

257 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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Looks like a very thorough service indeed.

Would be interesting to see how the bill was broken down - ie how much of it was on the service schedule and how much was elective?
Changing a spring for a slight area of corrosion and cleaning all of the under trays for example.

Not wanting to suggest running one of these on a shoestring and a car of this calibre deserves to be kept in the best of condition but some of the work must have been to preserve the cars value rather than its mechanical function.

Are these very mileage value sensitive? 20000 miles in 15+ years would be purgatory to me!

bolidemichael

14,062 posts

203 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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Thanks for the fascinating write up, OP. Out of curiosity, does the ~£20k quoted include the cost of the detailing work, too?

CasioPasio

208 posts

82 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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Coin Slot. said:
Just wow! cool

Often used, but rarely justified definition of Car Porn right here. eek
Whilst we're on the topic of 'often used' I want to give a huge shout out to the person down at my David Lloyd who drives their Carrera GT to the gym. I was walking out and saw this and just thought wow!


stefan1

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977 posts

234 months

Friday 19th April 2019
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As a few have asked, here is a rough breakdown of the service costs (parts and labour combined, inc. VAT):

Major service £7.5k

6 ignition coils £500

Replace engine mount £800

Replaced two camshafts (parts under goodwill), labour cost (net of contribution) £1.5k

Replaced front spring coils £850

Replaced 12V battery (cheaper to do when car already disassembled, I replace every 4 years) £400

4 new Michelin SuperSport tyres fitted £1,200

Four wheel alignment £1,000

Elective paintwork £2,700

Detailing (Refined Detail) £2,000

Gearbox repair £19k including prep and shipping


So the core service work remains, I think, for a car of this type very reasonable indeed. "Normal" annual services are c. £2k. Elective work was around 60% of the Porsche Reading bill.