Carrera GT 12 year engine out service (pic heavy)
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I believe Manthey have a replacement clutch available that behaves like a normal clutch. I think its 14 or 16000 euros.
Anti stall. On my spin around the block route I have two T junctions that are uphill and require full left lock. The anti stall does not seem to account for the tyre loading as the car moves and stalls. I find treating the clutch like a race car paddle clutch works but with as little rpm as possible and get the clutch out as soon as possible. It took a little while to perfect but it works and in three years of ownership the clutch has the same wear on it as it was when I bought the car. Also change watch from left to right hand for accessing handbrake. Annoyingly to avoid the front bumper under carbon piece just rubbing the ground I have to turn left out of my drive that results in the two difficult T junctions.
Anti stall. On my spin around the block route I have two T junctions that are uphill and require full left lock. The anti stall does not seem to account for the tyre loading as the car moves and stalls. I find treating the clutch like a race car paddle clutch works but with as little rpm as possible and get the clutch out as soon as possible. It took a little while to perfect but it works and in three years of ownership the clutch has the same wear on it as it was when I bought the car. Also change watch from left to right hand for accessing handbrake. Annoyingly to avoid the front bumper under carbon piece just rubbing the ground I have to turn left out of my drive that results in the two difficult T junctions.
SRT Hellcat said:
I believe Manthey have a replacement clutch available that behaves like a normal clutch. I think its 14 or 16000 euros.
Anti stall. On my spin around the block route I have two T junctions that are uphill and require full left lock. The anti stall does not seem to account for the tyre loading as the car moves and stalls. I find treating the clutch like a race car paddle clutch works but with as little rpm as possible and get the clutch out as soon as possible. It took a little while to perfect but it works and in three years of ownership the clutch has the same wear on it as it was when I bought the car. Also change watch from left to right hand for accessing handbrake. Annoyingly to avoid the front bumper under carbon piece just rubbing the ground I have to turn left out of my drive that results in the two difficult T junctions.
Anti stall. On my spin around the block route I have two T junctions that are uphill and require full left lock. The anti stall does not seem to account for the tyre loading as the car moves and stalls. I find treating the clutch like a race car paddle clutch works but with as little rpm as possible and get the clutch out as soon as possible. It took a little while to perfect but it works and in three years of ownership the clutch has the same wear on it as it was when I bought the car. Also change watch from left to right hand for accessing handbrake. Annoyingly to avoid the front bumper under carbon piece just rubbing the ground I have to turn left out of my drive that results in the two difficult T junctions.
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Caddyshack said:
Nice write up on the service and so nicely presented! I did not realise these had such regular engine out services.
My friend is one of the others going on the 3 car trip you mentioned, I keep meaning to go over and see his black one again...I saw it a few times with the previous owner.
Do you still have the Yellow 993 RS?, I used to see you a lot on the Paddock Club days...mainly at Bedford.
Thanks. I believe that the original reason for the engine out service was to be able to adjust the valve clearances. Nowadays, I think that can be done with the engine in situ, so strictly speaking taking the engine out isn’t necessary. But I think it is worth it to make sure every component can be inspected and keep the car in as near to perfect condition.My friend is one of the others going on the 3 car trip you mentioned, I keep meaning to go over and see his black one again...I saw it a few times with the previous owner.
Do you still have the Yellow 993 RS?, I used to see you a lot on the Paddock Club days...mainly at Bedford.
I never had a yellow 993RS, but rather a black one...loved that car!
epom said:
Taffy66 said:
993rsr said:
Flog your WP 991. 2RS for overs (well done BTW) and you are well on the way
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Caddyshack said:
Nice write up on the service and so nicely presented! I did not realise these had such regular engine out services.
My friend is one of the others going on the 3 car trip you mentioned, I keep meaning to go over and see his black one again...I saw it a few times with the previous owner.
Do you still have the Yellow 993 RS?, I used to see you a lot on the Paddock Club days...mainly at Bedford.
Thanks. I believe that the original reason for the engine out service was to be able to adjust the valve clearances. Nowadays, I think that can be done with the engine in situ, so strictly speaking taking the engine out isn’t necessary. But I think it is worth it to make sure every component can be inspected and keep the car in as near to perfect condition.My friend is one of the others going on the 3 car trip you mentioned, I keep meaning to go over and see his black one again...I saw it a few times with the previous owner.
Do you still have the Yellow 993 RS?, I used to see you a lot on the Paddock Club days...mainly at Bedford.
I never had a yellow 993RS, but rather a black one...loved that car!
Looks like a very thorough service indeed.
Would be interesting to see how the bill was broken down - ie how much of it was on the service schedule and how much was elective?
Changing a spring for a slight area of corrosion and cleaning all of the under trays for example.
Not wanting to suggest running one of these on a shoestring and a car of this calibre deserves to be kept in the best of condition but some of the work must have been to preserve the cars value rather than its mechanical function.
Are these very mileage value sensitive? 20000 miles in 15+ years would be purgatory to me!
Would be interesting to see how the bill was broken down - ie how much of it was on the service schedule and how much was elective?
Changing a spring for a slight area of corrosion and cleaning all of the under trays for example.
Not wanting to suggest running one of these on a shoestring and a car of this calibre deserves to be kept in the best of condition but some of the work must have been to preserve the cars value rather than its mechanical function.
Are these very mileage value sensitive? 20000 miles in 15+ years would be purgatory to me!
As a few have asked, here is a rough breakdown of the service costs (parts and labour combined, inc. VAT):
Major service £7.5k
6 ignition coils £500
Replace engine mount £800
Replaced two camshafts (parts under goodwill), labour cost (net of contribution) £1.5k
Replaced front spring coils £850
Replaced 12V battery (cheaper to do when car already disassembled, I replace every 4 years) £400
4 new Michelin SuperSport tyres fitted £1,200
Four wheel alignment £1,000
Elective paintwork £2,700
Detailing (Refined Detail) £2,000
Gearbox repair £19k including prep and shipping
So the core service work remains, I think, for a car of this type very reasonable indeed. "Normal" annual services are c. £2k. Elective work was around 60% of the Porsche Reading bill.
Major service £7.5k
6 ignition coils £500
Replace engine mount £800
Replaced two camshafts (parts under goodwill), labour cost (net of contribution) £1.5k
Replaced front spring coils £850
Replaced 12V battery (cheaper to do when car already disassembled, I replace every 4 years) £400
4 new Michelin SuperSport tyres fitted £1,200
Four wheel alignment £1,000
Elective paintwork £2,700
Detailing (Refined Detail) £2,000
Gearbox repair £19k including prep and shipping
So the core service work remains, I think, for a car of this type very reasonable indeed. "Normal" annual services are c. £2k. Elective work was around 60% of the Porsche Reading bill.
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