what is an 'early' 3.4 996?

what is an 'early' 3.4 996?

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barryrs

4,413 posts

225 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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Don’t forget the handbrake shoes if required.

ATM

18,406 posts

221 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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barryrs said:
Don’t forget the handbrake shoes if required.
I thought these only need doing if replacing rear discs?

barryrs

4,413 posts

225 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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ATM said:
I thought these only need doing if replacing rear discs?
Thought that was the plan “all 4 corners”

nebpor

3,753 posts

237 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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I wouldn't fit pagid disks again - the hub area corrodes too quickly.

Love the textar pads though.

ATM

18,406 posts

221 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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barryrs said:
ATM said:
I thought these only need doing if replacing rear discs?
Thought that was the plan “all 4 corners”
My mistake for some reason I thought he was only doing pads.

Slippydiff

14,913 posts

225 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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ATM said:
OnTheBreadline said:
Brake warning light has now come on. Probably going to do all 4 corners because futureproof. Is the recommendation still Pagid discs and Textar pads? Best place still Carparts4less?

Thanks all.
No

I recently went for Brembo pads and when I removed the old pads I noticed they were Textar. I noticed an improvement in pedal feel and firmness. However I also changed the front discs at the same time as they were a bit old and crusty.










On the basis of the discs and pads you removed, that's hardly a fair summation of Textar pads.
Judging by the state of the inner faces of the discs alone, you were never going to get a decent pedal, nor indeed any real "bite".

Textar are OE suppliers to Porsche, and their pads provide a good blend of friction from cold, reasonable thermal stability at higher temperatures, easy to remove brake dust and are silent running. They are in no way inferior to Brembos, and in my experience are actually superior.

Textar are part of the TMD friction group which also owns Pagid and Mintex :

https://tmdfriction.com/


Slippydiff

14,913 posts

225 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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Chris Stott said:
Underside of mine is now pretty much complete.

Front chassis leg before


Completely cut out and replaced. Seam sealed as per factory, it has blended in nicely. OS similar treatment.


Rear of OS sill… turned out to be a bit worse than first thought.


Most of the brake pipes replaced at the same time… the main one (front to rear) broke in to 4 pieces when removed.

From the guy that’s done it… Dinitrol 77B gives such a good OEM finish compared to just using black underseal to hide everything… where we’ve done weld repairs, painted it all silver to match the factory stuff and then coated the lot…
Wow, that's an excellent job Chris, you should be very pleased.
I'm guessing the rather awkward looking sill "spats" fitted on the trailing edge of the sills are the cause of the corrosion in that area. Not only do they look somewhat incongruous to my eyes, they appear to cause more problems than they solve ...

Chris Stott

13,533 posts

199 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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Slippydiff said:
Wow, that's an excellent job Chris, you should be very pleased.
I'm guessing the rather awkward looking sill "spats" fitted on the trailing edge of the sills are the cause of the corrosion in that area. Not only do they look somewhat incongruous to my eyes, they appear to cause more problems than they solve ...
I am… quote was £1,500, and even with the extra work, the guy said it’s not going to be far off that.

He’s also done the front discs and pads, replaced all the metal brake pipes and the horrible front to rear one.

nunpuncher

3,397 posts

127 months

Wednesday 1st June 2022
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Slippydiff said:
Wow, that's an excellent job Chris, you should be very pleased.
I'm guessing the rather awkward looking sill "spats" fitted on the trailing edge of the sills are the cause of the corrosion in that area. Not only do they look somewhat incongruous to my eyes, they appear to cause more problems than they solve ...
Have recently had my rear sills done along with my rear arches and a few other bits and pieces. Been waiting on the sunshine to get some pics so will try to do that today.

The guy doing mine said rust in that sill area is a mix of wet grit and dirt getting between the spat thingy and the body work and Porsche fitting them in a stupid way. The top edge to the spat thingies are mounted on a metal bracket which is screwed directly through the double skinned return of the end of the sill with a self tapper (you can see the remains of what I think is the screw - possibly even the bracket in Chris's photo). We opted not to put a screw through here when we put them back on.

Edited by nunpuncher on Wednesday 1st June 09:57

Mariosbt

2,452 posts

68 months

Wednesday 1st June 2022
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Chris Stott said:
Slippydiff said:
Wow, that's an excellent job Chris, you should be very pleased.
I'm guessing the rather awkward looking sill "spats" fitted on the trailing edge of the sills are the cause of the corrosion in that area. Not only do they look somewhat incongruous to my eyes, they appear to cause more problems than they solve ...
I am… quote was £1,500, and even with the extra work, the guy said it’s not going to be far off that.

He’s also done the front discs and pads, replaced all the metal brake pipes and the horrible front to rear one.
Pretty sure I wouldn’t be parking it outside in the sh!tty British weather in future! Garage or Spain! yes

Fast Bug

11,787 posts

163 months

Wednesday 1st June 2022
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Mariosbt said:
Chris Stott said:
Slippydiff said:
Wow, that's an excellent job Chris, you should be very pleased.
I'm guessing the rather awkward looking sill "spats" fitted on the trailing edge of the sills are the cause of the corrosion in that area. Not only do they look somewhat incongruous to my eyes, they appear to cause more problems than they solve ...
I am… quote was £1,500, and even with the extra work, the guy said it’s not going to be far off that.

He’s also done the front discs and pads, replaced all the metal brake pipes and the horrible front to rear one.
Pretty sure I wouldn’t be parking it outside in the sh!tty British weather in future! Garage or Spain! yes
Mine has suffered after moving and not having a garage. I've made a conscious effort to use it once a week to try and keep things moving nicely, they don't like sitting unused.

ATM

18,406 posts

221 months

Wednesday 1st June 2022
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Mariosbt said:
Chris Stott said:
Slippydiff said:
Wow, that's an excellent job Chris, you should be very pleased.
I'm guessing the rather awkward looking sill "spats" fitted on the trailing edge of the sills are the cause of the corrosion in that area. Not only do they look somewhat incongruous to my eyes, they appear to cause more problems than they solve ...
I am… quote was £1,500, and even with the extra work, the guy said it’s not going to be far off that.

He’s also done the front discs and pads, replaced all the metal brake pipes and the horrible front to rear one.
Pretty sure I wouldn’t be parking it outside in the sh!tty British weather in future! Garage or Spain! yes
Perhaps the new metal bits snd pieces will out live the man who owns it.

Chris Stott

13,533 posts

199 months

Wednesday 1st June 2022
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laugh

Perhaps, but given I only hit 55 at the weekend, and my doctor (and latest bloods) says I’m in good health, I hope not!!

I would love to have it down here though.

nunpuncher

3,397 posts

127 months

Thursday 2nd June 2022
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Can't find the "before" post that I made of my rusty arches and sills but here's the afters. I'm still waiting on the guy sending the during photos as he only shared the paint booth photos. The rust wasn't actually as bad as expected once they cut in to the panels. I had suspected what we could see was only the tip of the iceberg.

While the car was in I asked him to do the front chassis legs as well. However, when he inspected them they were still solid.

I also decided that this would be a good time to get rid of the horrible rear wiper for good and stick the compulsory ducks arse on the back.








Edit: here's a before of the worst bit of rust.



And a photo of the car at Porsche in the glen 2 weeks ago that I found on some photographers site


Edited by nunpuncher on Thursday 2nd June 08:31

ATM

18,406 posts

221 months

Thursday 2nd June 2022
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nunpuncher said:
I also decided that this would be a good time to get rid of the horrible rear wiper for good and stick the compulsory ducks arse on the back.





Which duck did you buy?

Nice job filling in the wiper hole. I'm thinking about filling in the rear brake light there too.

nunpuncher

3,397 posts

127 months

Thursday 2nd June 2022
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It's the GRP one from design911. The painter said it was one of the better quality moulds he'd see with very few pin holes when painting. However, I'd say the fit maybe wasn't as good as it should be. We had to drill out one of the holes for the hinge on the drivers side, the panel gap along the top edge doesn't follow the curve exactly and there's something that I've yet to work out that's catching the right hand side making it sit slightly higher.

I've been wanting rid of the wiper for ages. Can't track down the bungs now that guy in Greece has stopped making them and adding the job on while the back of the car was getting so much paint only added another £100 to the job. I'm trying to track down the blanking panel for the brake light under the window. I think it's a cabriolet part.

Edited by nunpuncher on Thursday 2nd June 12:11

ATM

18,406 posts

221 months

Thursday 2nd June 2022
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Chris Stott said:
laugh

Perhaps, but given I only hit 55 at the weekend, and my doctor (and latest bloods) says I’m in good health, I hope not!!
We all wish you many happy years with your car Chris.

The car is over 20 now right. If you are still hammering it round at 75 and it needs a bit more welding then surely you will pony up for it again. And hopefully we will all still be here, or some of us, to congratulate you and study the new repair pics.

Cartan1blue

7 posts

27 months

Thursday 2nd June 2022
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If you did come across a source for a sensibly priced “rear brake delete” cover, please could you post it up here? Mine has aged and no longer fits snuggly. I have only come across one source which was in the US, did not have the Porsche logo on, and was expensive ($150+Shipping+taxes from memory). Thanks in advance

ATM

18,406 posts

221 months

Thursday 2nd June 2022
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Cartan1blue said:
If you did come across a source for a sensibly priced “rear brake delete” cover, please could you post it up here? Mine has aged and no longer fits snuggly. I have only come across one source which was in the US, did not have the Porsche logo on, and was expensive ($150+Shipping+taxes from memory). Thanks in advance
My car has a cover or blanking thing but it was on the car when I got it. It says PORSCHE in caps. No idea if the light is still in there or if it has been removed.



julian987R

6,840 posts

61 months

Thursday 2nd June 2022
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Cartan1blue said:
If you did come across a source for a sensibly priced “rear brake delete” cover, please could you post it up here? Mine has aged and no longer fits snuggly. I have only come across one source which was in the US, did not have the Porsche logo on, and was expensive ($150+Shipping+taxes from memory). Thanks in advance
This the part you seek? $50.

https://www.partssociety.com/products/02-carrera-4...