PCCB out braked the steels last night on 5th gear.

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Yellow491 said:

Listen steve,you need to concede to R,he is always correct and a very experienced top driver.
Look at the quotes,you can just buckle at the knees.
Only one fastest line
Old school slow in fast out
Never triggering abs
Cant trigger at high speeds
Non variable braking points
F1,
Fast in fast out
Go to to a race school
He is clearly back on the tablets
The famous race book of qoutes, the BS stops when the clock starts ticking at spa;)

May be we book a class room at spa,and get taff as teacher up front,us noughty boys sat at the back loaded with the board rubber and other bits to throw,and then R comes in with his satchel,gives taff a apple and sits neatly at the front with pencil sharpened,oh and still with his shorts on.

what's incorrect which I have posted ?

I will goto Spa in 2020 with a PH group no issue for fun, and I won't be the fastest as I don't push my £135k car on track and I don't have the balls to drive Blancimont at >160mph or the balls to do Eau-rouge at speed, and the track knowlege to do Pouhon right, and I have a metal block at 14 due to a wall being right in front of you so slow down way too much.

it's that simple, I know where I am slow at Spa, fixing that will be VERY hard and need more than 1 visit, bigger balls and some one else PDK RS to drive and allow me to right off. I will offer to drive Taffys RS WP car and give him a lift home in mine ;-)

I have no issue being the slowest on a PH meet up, I just want to goto Spa in my manual GT3 for fun with people who enjoy cars and if we can all learn something on the way that's great.

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JayK12 said:

Beat my GT4 around Donington Park time yet? :P

I'm on rFactor2 now, good sim, my winter sorted before racing next year.

nope :-( while we both got faster and faster, you had me ……...

I just resigned up to iracing myself as I invested a lot of money in 2014 on tracks and cars and the black Friday deal made me go back to that sim as you keep all the cars and tracks you bought before hand.

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Digga said:

rice of a good PC has really come down.

At work, I use a spec very similar to game 'spec' for 3D CAD. Complex models and renders need a similarly high specification graphics card to games, and the price now is very reasonable.

prices are the same I find, you just get better kit. as for 3D CAD for can buy a £10k GPU alone and run the new i9 !!!

This is what I do for a living, build bespoke CAD PC's and business PC's at high levels.

A specs go up with software prices need to go up with hardware. other wise that 3D renders going to take all day !

CPU's MB etc etc are all the same prices as they have ever been imo.

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Yellow491 said:

Howmuch is a reasonable sim set up,like to keep my reaction time up through the winter.,less injures than 5 aside touch rugby.
Whats recomended.

about £7k

a good PC is £1500
sims stuff £1500
screens £1440
shakers etc £250
softwear £400
speakers £200
seats £700

here is my 911 cup at Spa

this is on 1ms 144hz 27" curved triples.

it not fully lined up as I have just bought these new screens at £1440 for 3 !!! and they need a bit more adjustment.
but they are mega screens.

Edited by Porsche911R on Thursday 21st November 22:08

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SRT Hellcat said:

is there a sim setup that mirrors historic racing. Good old fashioned cars with no down force, relatively little mechanical grip on crossply tyres, crap steel brakes and a manual gearbox. Genuinely asking as I would be interested if there were.

Yep you an try just about any car, the classic race Lotus are hard core.

I like the caterham 620r, that’s a hoot for a quick blast .

The manuals are far harder of course, over a PDK and abs car where you can left foot brake.

F1 is also fun, the hardest are the can-am era in the rain !

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thelostboy said:

I have tried a few sims and the answer is no, there is nothing that is genuinely authentic on the sims to replicate the historic stuff.

The reason is simple; supply and demand. There are loads of youngsters with rich fathers looking for fractions of a second in modern stuff, and a very small percentage of 50+ year olds who race classics who would even consider sims. Someone with the time and patience would have to share a lot of data to get the handling accuracy sorted. At the moment the models are just a bit more sideways, with the laptimes just way too fast. The trickier (and interesting) bit would also be building in the fatigue that older cars suffer over race distance.

Sims in general don't do much for me; they are useful for learning new track layouts and tips from instructors who have raced there a lot, but I can do the familiarisation on a Playstation. I enjoy a video game or two, and grew up on Gran Turismo, but I can't imagine locking myself in a dark room for hours away from my family and justifying that as a 'hobby'.

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all top drivers use sims, it makes you a better driver as it focus's on different sense which you then use in the real car.

most tracks are laser mapped so very accurate.

all top drivers are fast on sims and ave drivers seem to poo poo them but are slow on them so no suprize there.

Gran Turismo and a ps4 is a long way off a £10k driving sim rig.

Also above 30 years old it keeps your reactions in trim form.

I guess it depends if you want to race real people and have an interest in driving over watching the bake off with the misses.
https://youtu.be/a9hF8ZGxvow

Edited by Porsche911R on Friday 22 November 13:32

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Yellow491 said:

F thats boring,is he really wearing gloves.Think i wont bother,5 a side touch rugby is way more fun

The FF back is quite strong, I wear gloves on long races. And your forarms do get a work out.
It's really about self improvement and makes you a more rounded driver in real life.


Is what it is another tool if you want to improve.

http://www.izoneperformance.com

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stef1808 said:

What's that?

Best mod I did, my seat shakes, when you hit bumbs, rumble strips, etc adds a load of extra feel.

Yes I would love to race a RSR , but that costs 3 million quid.

My RSR costs $14 for life.

Not only do you need a ton of money to race, you need time and a wife that supports it all even at basic levels. Ok if you had a wife like Ken miles.

I only sim 4 hours a week I don’t have the time to do any more.

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Yellow491 said:

Best work out and learning for me was ice driving with tuthills,and having done many coaching days ,week courses etc
A sim is not going to get any where near the physical,especially with gloves on!

3 of use are planning to do that cannot wait.
I have done every thing, rally school, drift school, race school, track training, sim racing, race rc from 12 years old.

Rally is the hardest imo.

It all helps esp at 50 when it’s really getting harder and harder to be fast.

I wish I would have raced early doors, but buying a house at 17 really puts a stop to racing on ave wages.

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JulierPass said:

All courses and you still can’t keep your foot in round blanchimont?? I’d be after a refund.

Did not have the balls was that simple, my 987 Spyder does not create any down force and Infact has lift, at about 140mph it did not feel good enough to keep my foot flat. It needed a very slight lift for my confidence.

Edited by Porsche911R on Sunday 24th November 20:41

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Discombobulate said:

So true. Not tried a good SIM but always wanted to go home by lunch time on a track day.

I think I have not even done one for 2 years !! now.

the RS day is more chatting than driving, and even then people go out for 4 laps and come in ! (in the main) and only do 4 stints.
the tracks empty 80% time. and by 3pm no one is there !!!

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D.no said:

Bloody hell, that sounds brilliant!

Now, someone needs to drop-out so I can get a place.....

Just go and sign up for a PM session, many will have left by then and they won't say no to extra money.

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When did Slippy last go on a track day in his car I wonder ?

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Yellow491 said:

.R Probably has the full monty on with race suit and boots

maybe so, but if you poo poo a sim you look a bit foolish imo in todays age.

a sim really makes you a more rounded driver, improves reactions and eye to hand coordination, thus making you a faster driver, it's that simple.

good drivers can sim, ave drivers are pretty poor on sims, says a lot.

I think a big reason today is EPS, it takes away a lot of feel so you need to rely on eye to hand coordination far more in a modern car with EPS. over seat of the arse driving where you have all the feel you need.

Is what it is, another tool to make you a better driver nothing more, but racing is exciting as Jay says, as it's with real people, real time and that's the fun.

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https://youtu.be/KbzJ9lVw0IY

nice vid, left foot braking , heal and toe etc etc


yep because that looks st lol !!!

it's a tool, not been in a real car where any one Thresholds brakes, or left foot brakes to any sort of advanced level to date.

most drivers drive to work in rush hour traffic, drive home again and every 3rd sunday take the sports car for a run out.

A driver that does not make.

IF you can afford 2 track days a week, and rent Bruntingthrope every month for drift training then yep all good.

Edited by Porsche911R on Thursday 28th November 09:48

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993rsr said:

Well with your faster driving due to all your sim work, we'll look forward to seeing it manifest in real life at Spa.

already said I am slow at Spa, but I will take you out no problem, you can show me the right lines with your extended knowledge.
Lines are key 1st I have driven Spa once 4 years ago !
3 or 4 bends at Spa and being just a foot out on turn in ruins the bend. Get it right it feels easy, get it off and the bends are an arse.
you cannot master that in 1 trip.

I can show you a faster lap at Donnington if you like, a track I know a bit better.

I could drive at quite a high standard before I had a sim, the sims make me use senses in other area's to make me a more rounded driver, it also helps with lines and how to make a fast lap and what does actually make a fast lap fast over just an ave lap. ALso it's pretty handy on a new track to know the gereral layout and if a left or right bend is coming next, saves you 1/2 a day at least so worth it for that alone.

I have taken people out at Donny and been ok fast, then you click some times and find 3 or 4 seconds and drive much harder.
the difference is big from being 10 seconds off the pace to just being 3. But 10x the wear on the car and tyres than at that point inc. the risk.

I would never do a qually lap in a real car, it's too risky, pretty happy at 85% level in real cars, I see too many track off's in the normal area's to think screw being flat on that bend for the sake of 0.5 seconds. It is after all a track day. I am with Hunter how to treat track days in road cars.

I am happy with my level of driving for a keen Amateur and have nothing to really prove to anyone, I did all that 20 years ago same st different people :-)
it's a hobby now and meeting with mates who you don't get to see other wise. hence not done a track day for 2 years., I might not even have it in me lol

But I do plan to track the GT3 in 2020 :-) but might be in a Lotus as it's a 1/3 less cost to track one.

Edited by Porsche911R on Thursday 28th November 10:12

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993rsr said:

Same old story as ever, you quote chapter and verse about being a superlative driver, and make every excuse why you can't/don't/won't/couldn't demonstrate your phenomenal level of skill at a suitable venue. If you are as good as you constantly state, what's the problem.

Surely someone of your skill would have no issue driving at 99% and keeping it on the tarmac?

I am happy with my sill level for track work, that's all I can say, nothing to prove here, I again said I will take you out in 2020.

No racer has kept a car on the tarmac 100% of the time why risk it ?

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Taffy66 said:

Why does every thread on P'heads denigrate into personal spiteful comments i wonder ..I suppose its true of all types of modern social media where a few posters like to to portray themselves as online tough guys ..I wonder how tough they'd be face to face in real life meetings ..!
Most online bullying manifests itself as it does in real life.Chill out dudes and treat P'heads as a lighthearted and sometimes funny escape from our real life problems
It doesn't surprise me in the least that on line insults are a major contributor to deteriorating mental health in today's society..As my granddad used to say ''If you haven't got anything good to say about somebody,don't say anything at all ''..

Same 4 or 5 people, nothing new, they need banning really.
Must be some underlying issue in their own lives to be evil to fellow humans to make them feel superior.

It’s hurtful but you have to feel sorry for them some how.

Every forum and every topic world wide has the same trolls, that’s modern SM today sadly and it takes people’s lives which is tragic.
You need thick skin to be part of any forum, or not have an opinion so you don’t get picked on and be a yes man.