I think I have decided to buy a 996 Turbo manual...

[fourwheeler]

Yea it seems decent to be fair and I'm actually in Ireland at the moment until the new year.

The photos do not do it justice at all really. They show the front spoiler.. but advert says removed.. I wonder was is just pulled off by a kerb lol.

I'm very tempted by this. If its there in new year I might have a look.

[fourwheeler]

On nice, i'd forgot about the Ineos.. when will we start seeing the Grenadier on roads?

So that Turbo looks keenly priced.. I am very tempted to take a look.

I am wondering what state it might be in. Looks like the nearside exhaust is low.. I wonder do the mounts need doing? I also don't like the S plastered onto the end of Turbo.

Are those wheels desirable / expensive? I like the idea of the Aero spoiler as it's one less potential nightmare to keep tabs on..

What's so good about GT silver? I thought it was Polar Silver which was the desirable one.

I like the aluminium accents in the interior.

[fourwheeler]

TwinExit said:

But we are talking about a £80K (back in 2003) Porsche 911 Turbo, it's not a thrashed out Nissan 200SX or Subaru Impreza! Most owners would have documented history of work done at Porsche or specialist indies, some work requires engineering expertise which cannot be DIY'ed and it just screams out the owner taking shortcuts otherwise.

No one will offer you £38K for a car that has had most of its work done in your shed with parts you ordered off the internet, when you can pick up an example worked on and sold by a specialist for the same money.

Thanks for your input TwinExit.

[fourwheeler]

marky911 said:

This is opinion not fact.
By using the term shed you imply inferior work quality. And those parts bight off the internet can be the exact same ones a specialist will fit, but without their “bit on the top”.

You want at least the servicing done by an Indy, yes, and I’d say anything that involves opening up the engine or box.

Everything else from, suspension, to brakes, to air-con rads, etc etc is easily DIY’able.
The Indy would check it all over come service time anyway if you needed reassurance.

You can go into much more detail when DIY’ing. Cleaning up fixings, re-plating or coating things, etc. You can get a better finish than a mechanic as doing it DIY means it isn’t against the clock.

But hey, if you aren’t capable or you just like throwing money away, then sure, get your mechanic to all the jobs anyone with half a brain could.

Very well said, Marky!

This "twinexit" guy seems to be more concerned with being able to sell the car later on.

Personally, i'll be buying the car to enjoy it. Dont confuse that with rag or neglect it. When it comes to sell i'll sell it at a fair value given condition and market etc.

I'm intelligent and I learn about all the workings of a system before I go at it..I'll be doing a lot of the work DIY with the exception of servicing (for the certification) and other major engine or box work (touch wood..)

I think if you have main services done with indys and then DIY everything else and keep the car well, any PPI should be able to acknowledge that and the state of the car.

When I get my lift installed I will get great joy out of stripping down the underside of a car, tidying up, coating bits and bobs and getting it nice and fresh.

Edited by fourwheeler on Tuesday 13th December 02:13

[fourwheeler]

Guys, i'm really enjoying this thread and there has been some healthy debate.

I can't help feel that the thread has been a little bit derailed by the firm and unrelenting arguments put forward by "TwinExit" it feels like they will just continue arguing their points to no end..

This has not happened me before, but can I please ask people not to be baited by their arguments.

[fourwheeler]

Sure that's a fair point I guess.

But it's annoying when it turns into flogging a dead horse and never ending.

Buti I suppose ultimately you are correct.. better let these things run their course. Debate is healthy.

[fourwheeler]

irish boy said:

This manual car close to me has just been reduced by £7k. Very reputable dealership too.



https://www.hollybrooksportscars.com/detail/used-p...

So boys and girls.. I happy to announce that I am currently en route collect this car.

Massive shout out to "Irish boy" for bringing this to my attention as I hadn't come across it on here or AT.

I've secured it for a shade less than the asking.

The following work needs doing on it:

- Leak at rear main seal.
- Exhaust flanges corroded.
- Turbo heatshields corroded.
- Turbo actuator arms corroded.
- Brake lines along the floor have some corrosion.
- Tyres have no date.

So a bit of work.. thankfully not massive parts cost but just mainly blood, sweat and f***s

I'll not drive it until I get the RMS and Actuators done. I'll have a lift coming after Xmas and at that point I can get the engine out and do a decent amount of work unimpeded.

I don't know the best way to get the RMS done but I might load the engine into the car and bring to a specialist to have it done.

While the engine is out I'll probably replace all the coolant and charge hoses with silicon (assume available) I might as well pin the coolant connectors too while I'm there.

Turbos mightnt be in great shape so once I've extracted the rotten bolts I may send them off for a refurb.

Can you tidy up the actuators and replace diaphragm or is it just a bin and replace job ?

Also.. what's the story with aftermarket parts for these cars? I'm not talking about cheap pattern parts but things like silicon hoses and turbo actuators etc.. from the like of Forge and others available on design 911?

I know on some cars these things are appreciated but not the 911 is one of them.

I mean why would I spring for expensive porsche parts if actuators from Forge look better and cheaper. I'd only buy if they are actually really better though.

And to address the point of DIY and masking costs etc.. I can assure you that is absolutely the case. This is the 5th car in my collection and I would still only have 1 if I was paying other people to fix them. I've invested a lot in tools and work space and will continue to do so. I'm not skimping at all by any means.

I think I'm going to setup a YouTube channel just to document my ownership and maintenance (and resto) of these cars.

Anyway.. very exciting and I am looking forward to getting my teeth into this.

[fourwheeler]

Thanks everybody, I am thrilled with the purchase.

There is a system error now preventing the PCM from producing sound, which I rather annoying... I do know that the car sat around for a while, and perhaps it's voltage dropped a bit and made a mess of things.. I am hoping that. Hopefully the amp isn't blown.

Orangecurry said:

According to Florian, and he's correct on most wheelery, they are called Sport Techno, hollowspoke and similar weights to the Turbo2 hollowspoke.

They do come up (very) occasionally on an auction site near you, but I'd be tempted to find some cooking wheels to hack about on.

http://www.944racing.de/wheelweights.php

Thanks again to Florian Seibold for compiling the Wheel Bible.

Thank you for this - yes, I believe the wheels are relatively rare. I wasn't gone on them originally but they are kind of growing on me now.

Orangecurry said:

legal/EU/roadgoing tyres always have dates. They are however only printed on one side of the tyre, which may be facing inwards.
But it's unlikely they are all facing inwards.

ETA it has at least one Bridgestone S-02, N3 KZ rated I think, which were excellent tyres, my favourite N-rated on my car, but they stopped making them about 15 years ago!

Edited by Orangecurry on Sunday 18th December 11:50

Interesting .. lol 15 years ago..! I guess that's why he couldn't find a date stamp. In any case. I'll do a full assessment soon and sort them out. Last thing I want is to be running around on perished rubber...

[fourwheeler]

Thanks for this thread everybody..

I am surprised by the amount of interest and debate it has garnered along the way... yay for PistonHeads.

There is a new thread over here where you can follow along on this project and see all the ups and down of which I am sure there will be some of both.

Again, thank you all, and see you on the other side...