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Mustangs said:
Ive no Idea who Dickie is?
The man that left has started on his own I gather. Some suggestion that he was asked to invest some cash to help keep it going but wasn't comfortable as car turnover was low and moral was on the deck.
Maybe 'Dickie' has reappeared to stop it going under. I'd not want to have a car on SOR there !
Dickie isn't a money man. I'm interested in the negative vibes over Paul. I assumed the 'north Essex dealer' mentioned in another thread was referring to someone else...who is definitely not someone I'd deal with...but reading between the lines, I get the feeling I was wrong in my assumption?The man that left has started on his own I gather. Some suggestion that he was asked to invest some cash to help keep it going but wasn't comfortable as car turnover was low and moral was on the deck.
Maybe 'Dickie' has reappeared to stop it going under. I'd not want to have a car on SOR there !
rubystone said:
Dickie isn't a money man. I'm interested in the negative vibes over Paul. I assumed the 'north Essex dealer' mentioned in another thread was referring to someone else...who is definitely not someone I'd deal with...but reading between the lines, I get the feeling I was wrong in my assumption?
Yes for sure wrong on your assumptions. The 'avoid north Essex dealer' put up by Rocco1 was Definately Paul Stephens and was duly removed. So who is this 'Dickie'?
rubystone said:
Dickie isn't a money man. I'm interested in the negative vibes over Paul. I assumed the 'north Essex dealer' mentioned in another thread was referring to someone else...who is definitely not someone I'd deal with...but reading between the lines, I get the feeling I was wrong in my assumption?
Yes for sure wrong on your assumptions. The 'avoid north Essex dealer' put up by Rocco1 was Definately Paul Stephens and was duly removed. So who is this 'Dickie'?
Mustangs said:
Yes for sure wrong on your assumptions. The 'avoid north Essex dealer' put up by Rocco1 was Definately Paul Stephens and was duly removed.
So who is this 'Dickie'?
Worked for me in another life. Good technician, lovely bloke. I've never had any hassle with Paul either, just to balance things out So who is this 'Dickie'?
rubystone said:
Worked for me in another life. Good technician, lovely bloke. I've never had any hassle with Paul either, just to balance things out
Ok sounds like a good all round bloke. We all have differing experiences when buying /selling cars and my long term experience of buying ( not Porsche I should add) is do your homework on dealers and get actual experiences of those that have direct dealings of specialists.
Sadly Paul Stephens name has not faired well and I've recieved a multitude of PM's from various members sharing actual experiences in detail . As a result I've decided my next purchase will be with the more reputable dealers such as Canfords for example. Frankly it's a Shame as I've been aware of the Paul Strphens name for some years however of late he Seems to have very much dropped the ball.
Plus reports of financing issues are not encouraging .
Anyway onwards and upwards , export 56 anyone ?
I've been around the Porsche world for 30 years now. I've seen shady characters build up businesses, get jailed for fraud and others convicted for clocking cars and yet are still thriving and are amongst some of the most respected names in the industry.
I'm sure that some of these guys will be on your list too, given your search for an early car.
So as always, go into the purchase with your eyes open. Judge the car on condition and always have an independent inspection done by someone with no connection with the vendor.
I'm sure that some of these guys will be on your list too, given your search for an early car.
So as always, go into the purchase with your eyes open. Judge the car on condition and always have an independent inspection done by someone with no connection with the vendor.
if you're looking for an early car condition is everything .. and that doesnt just mean a shiney paint job
Get yourself down to Classic at the Castle in sept and have a really good look at the cars there ... and dont just look at the imaculate concours cars , but look at the enthusiast owned cars that are actually driven ... look down their flanks , look at the shut lines etc , the more you look at the more you likely you'll be able to spot a dog or a good one in the future. Ask some owners to point out to you the areas to keep an eye on etc
Join DDK too, and ask questions, as there are no daft questions ... members of ddk will be able to spot a bad car a mile off and help you narrow down a search. Ultimately any car you are seriously looking at should be seen in the flesh before committing.
Its also worth speaking to some of the specialists like Neil Bainbridge etc who arent dealers, as they might know cars coming to market
Get yourself down to Classic at the Castle in sept and have a really good look at the cars there ... and dont just look at the imaculate concours cars , but look at the enthusiast owned cars that are actually driven ... look down their flanks , look at the shut lines etc , the more you look at the more you likely you'll be able to spot a dog or a good one in the future. Ask some owners to point out to you the areas to keep an eye on etc
Join DDK too, and ask questions, as there are no daft questions ... members of ddk will be able to spot a bad car a mile off and help you narrow down a search. Ultimately any car you are seriously looking at should be seen in the flesh before committing.
Its also worth speaking to some of the specialists like Neil Bainbridge etc who arent dealers, as they might know cars coming to market
Strangely, I have heard neg stories about lots of the dealers mentioned. I have experienced some personally. I have also had good experiences of some of the neg mentions on here.
My view is that you need to do your homework in detail wherever you buy. If you are buying a high value classic where original detail counts for a huge part of the value, do your homework even more so.
So if you are buying a car that exists, get it very well checked out by experts to check it is what it says it is. Also check with the guys on DDK that what you think you are getting is correct for the model, year, country etc.
If you are having a car worked on (restored or whatever), take even more care that you don't get any nasty surprises with much higher bills than expected.
I sound a bit jaundiced, but have previously got the scars and wouldn't want to again!
Bert
My view is that you need to do your homework in detail wherever you buy. If you are buying a high value classic where original detail counts for a huge part of the value, do your homework even more so.
So if you are buying a car that exists, get it very well checked out by experts to check it is what it says it is. Also check with the guys on DDK that what you think you are getting is correct for the model, year, country etc.
If you are having a car worked on (restored or whatever), take even more care that you don't get any nasty surprises with much higher bills than expected.
I sound a bit jaundiced, but have previously got the scars and wouldn't want to again!
Bert
BertBert said:
Strangely, I have heard neg stories about lots of the dealers mentioned. I have experienced some personally. I have also had good experiences of some of the neg mentions on here.
My view is that you need to do your homework in detail wherever you buy. If you are buying a high value classic where original detail counts for a huge part of the value, do your homework even more so.
So if you are buying a car that exists, get it very well checked out by experts to check it is what it says it is. Also check with the guys on DDK that what you think you are getting is correct for the model, year, country etc.
If you are having a car worked on (restored or whatever), take even more care that you don't get any nasty surprises with much higher bills than expected.
I sound a bit jaundiced, but have previously got the scars and wouldn't want to again!
Bert
Yes well said Bert. Sadly though some so called 'air cooled' specialists are anything but so it pays to get these cars checked over as you say. The good thing is asking around on forums generally weeds out the sharks and news travels very fast. Merry XmasMy view is that you need to do your homework in detail wherever you buy. If you are buying a high value classic where original detail counts for a huge part of the value, do your homework even more so.
So if you are buying a car that exists, get it very well checked out by experts to check it is what it says it is. Also check with the guys on DDK that what you think you are getting is correct for the model, year, country etc.
If you are having a car worked on (restored or whatever), take even more care that you don't get any nasty surprises with much higher bills than expected.
I sound a bit jaundiced, but have previously got the scars and wouldn't want to again!
Bert
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