what is an 'early' 3.4 996?

what is an 'early' 3.4 996?

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Ed.Neumann

450 posts

9 months

Monday 13th May
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Such a nice example.

What's next?

MrC986

3,514 posts

192 months

Tuesday 14th May
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I thought it was Marky911s car....the seats & the condition of it make it very distinctive.

stuckmojo

2,989 posts

189 months

Tuesday 14th May
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Hippea said:
Anyone’s on here, looks a nice car

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/16704584
lovely car that.

ATM

18,357 posts

220 months

Fast Bug

11,766 posts

162 months

Tuesday 21st May
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That's a no from me.

barryrs

4,413 posts

224 months

Tuesday 21st May
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Not for me, but thanks for the heads up smile

RTPT

134 posts

20 months

Wednesday 22nd May
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Great interview with a 996 owner - like the front bumper and the wheels sit very nice


six port

288 posts

167 months

Yesterday (07:32)
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Trying to get over to see this. Been flirting with an 996 for a few years. Anyone know of the car?
Seems great value, which is the worrying thing.
Would it be cable throttle and genuine ambers on a W reg?



stretcher

75 posts

30 months

Yesterday (07:41)
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Reads really well on the MOT history, no advisories for many years. I thought a 2000 car should have had clear lights. ? Can't go wrong at that price. See if he will allow an inspection. Good luck.

ATM

18,357 posts

220 months

Yesterday (07:59)
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six port said:
Trying to get over to see this. Been flirting with an 996 for a few years. Anyone know of the car?
Seems great value, which is the worrying thing.
Would it be cable throttle and genuine ambers on a W reg?


It looks like it has the tacky looking glittery dark grey plastic trim around the dash which early cars had. I can't see if it has levers for bonnet and boot release. If it has both of these it is an earlier car although I'm not too sure about ambers. Obviously the very first cars had ambers. The jury is out on the preferred piston coating of the early cars as some believe this was dropped in 99. But you didn't ask about this so perhaps I'm straying off topic. Although this was my primary reason for seeking out an early car. I see red calipers which are incorrect. They should be black on the c2. Although lots now use red from the Boxster S as these are more plentiful and identical.

My best advice is don't be worried. If you want one then go buy one. If you will be always worried about stuff breaking once you have bought it then you can't buy any car. So decide who you want to be first. A happy owner, a worried owner or a passive observer. I think they're generally the 3 buckets people fall into.

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I've recently seen a 996 several times parked on a route I frequent occasionally. Its a black coupe with I think oz wheels. I think there are some stickers on the rear quarter glass. So it clearly says enthusiastic owner. I was going to get a pic to ask if it's someone here but on my last pass the view was obscured by a white golf so I didn't get one. I will see if I can grab a pic next time I'm passing. Obviously I'm excited to see a 996 out in the wild even if it's only parked. I'm not sure yet if I'm brave enough to just knock on the guy's door because that's a whole different level from just polite stalking.

stretcher

75 posts

30 months

Yesterday (07:59)
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Reading the owners posts on that forum shows that he has only owned it since last August / September time..... Looks like he also sold a C4 recently too.

six port

288 posts

167 months

Yesterday (08:19)
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Didn’t know about the piston liners, just that early 3.4 cars have seemingly less bore issues.
I prefer the purer design of them with the ambers too and like the way this sits on the Bilsteins and imagine it will handle really well!

Slippydiff

14,899 posts

224 months

Yesterday (09:45)
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six port said:
Didn’t know about the piston liners, just that early 3.4 cars have seemingly less bore issues.
I prefer the purer design of them with the ambers too and like the way this sits on the Bilsteins and imagine it will handle really well!
That would depend on whether all the other suspension components are in tip top condition too, and the quality of the geo set up, and the quality/age of the tyres.

ATM

18,357 posts

220 months

Yesterday (10:17)
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six port said:
Didn’t know about the piston liners, just that early 3.4 cars have seemingly less bore issues.
I prefer the purer design of them with the ambers too and like the way this sits on the Bilsteins and imagine it will handle really well!
And this is why the very early cars have less bore score. The pistons were coated with something that is better at preventing it. I believe that means 97 and 98 and maybe some 99.

My first car was very stiff. Yes it handled well once the geo was fixed and if I found smoother roads. I used to live in the countryside and had some great roads on my doorstep. One I used to like had 2 bumps in close succession. If you hit them in any other car you just felt a slight ruffle. In my rock hard 996 the car would get airborne leaving the second. I think maybe the distance between them hit some kind of sweet spot so the suspension was just compressing from the landing or dip after the first bump as you hit the second and it amplified it's effect.

Now I'm older and boring and live in a city I suspect I'd prefer a softer setup. There are so many different setups it's almost impossible to know what's best. I read comments from other owners saying they have read this and read that before deciding which direction to go in. But we are all trying to decide what to choose based on what other owners have said about their setup. I do wander what the bog standard setup would feel like.

Thats What She Said

1,157 posts

89 months

Yesterday (10:32)
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stretcher said:
Reading the owners posts on that forum shows that he has only owned it since last August / September time..... Looks like he also sold a C4 recently too.
It's the same car. He tried selling it on eBay for £16k. Then dropped to £15k on FB, and now £13k.

Dammit

3,791 posts

209 months

Yesterday (12:44)
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To the Alps!


Chris Stott

13,493 posts

198 months

Yesterday (14:48)
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ATM said:
And this is why the very early cars have less bore score. The pistons were coated with something that is better at preventing it. I believe that means 97 and 98 and maybe some 99.
If thought bore scoring was a result of cooling issues?

Which is why the larger capacity engines suffer more (996 3.6 and 997 3.8)… and why it is almost always on the same cylinders on the left bank of the engine.

I’ve not heard of 3.4’s of any year suffering from bore score (not saying categorically it doesn’t happen, but if it does it’s very rare).

ATM

18,357 posts

220 months

Yesterday (16:56)
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Chris Stott said:
If thought bore scoring was a result of cooling issues?

Yes

And some design flaws

I don't know if it's possible to avoid scoring a standard engine by just keeping it cooler

Chris Stott

13,493 posts

198 months

Yesterday (17:03)
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ATM said:
Yes

And some design flaws

I don't know if it's possible to avoid scoring a standard engine by just keeping it cooler
Yeah, the coolant temp differential is poor across the engine, so if you reduce the coolant temp overall it’s too cool for another part.

Richard-cqpvd

30 posts

62 months

Yesterday (22:16)
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Dammit said:
To the Alps!

Lucky man, not done a European trip in mine yet but a few weeks of mountain biking and driving alpine passes would surely rank as one of the best holidays ever!