Porsche 993 cab tip still more than £25....

[YoungMD]

So after 3 months of looking at different Porsches I can't get away from the desire to have another air cooled car, ideally a 993 for all the reasons mentioned by various people HOWEVER what a nightmare market at the moment, I have conceded to a tiptronic and a convertible and actually after driving them think they still do it.

But the issue is price, it just amazes me the price of very average cars, I have always paid about £20k for my 3.2 Carreras and 964's but I have previously had very good cars, it seems a dodgy 993 will sell for £20k even in tiptronic.

So my question....... How much for a good tiptronic convertible ? I saw one yesterday for £19k but when I got there the history was patchy, it had actually been imported from Germany and it needed money spent on it. But I wonder if this is actually an okay deal, get it inspected and if it turns out okay then you have an okay car that you can spend money on in the future to get up to scratch.

It's a sad day when normal air cooled Porsches are in the silly money area reserved for the turbos and old crome cars

[YoungMD]

Well ermm yes I have noticed the rise in air cooled prices and for the right cars with the right spec I.e C2 manual coupe I can completely understand it but I wonder if other models have really gone up as much, you see a fair few cab and tiptronics for less than £20k and I never really see the £25+ convertibles selling. There have been several around advertised for ages , so I wonder to what degree you need to pay £30k to get a decent one of these.....

[YoungMD]

Good replies this is kind of what I think, if I wanted a 80k miles with full service history and 3 owners then I would be happy to pay 30k, but I am happy with a 100k + a bit miles and a car I can use but that is not iffy so I would expect to pay closer to 20k for this in a proper market. I think you are right its time and patients that is required

[YoungMD]

Couldn't agree more, I went to see a 993 cab tip at a certain David B cars, fair enough it is now only up for £22k but it was up for £25k and the windscreen is corroded and all it other weak points like rear bumper etc, the paintwork was different colour silver on pretty much each panel and just generally a very worn uncared for car. That's a £15k car which okay may sell for 18k with 10k worth of work needed, but £25k that's not nice !!

[YoungMD]

I agree with the coments but my basic rule of thumb for now and the last 10 years has kind of been that a decent classic car will cost you £20k, look at an old lotus Elan, and the old bmw's and nice merc's all about £20k for a decent one, and the only cars to break that as a very general rule are specials like the 1970 and earlier 911 and the turbos and one off models like the speedster. Maybe it's time to up the 20k but not to 25k for a dodgy car surely. I even see dodgy 964's going for 20+ and with all respect to the 964 they are not the easiest of classics...... Correction needed at the end of the summer or beyond surely ....

[YoungMD]

Mario149 said:

Air cooled prices have me a little confused, there seems to be a lot of variability which requires going to see vehicles and seeing their history and them up close.

I paid £18k for my 107k miles silver with blue manual C2 cab with massive history at 911V bug price 18 months ago and it needed £2k to get mechanically right, so call it £20k all in....I think I got in before the rises started. I then decided to throw some money at it with new Bilstein suspension and a few other bits that weren't actually needed, none of which really add any value but they were for me so I don't care. Cosmetically there's a few hundred £ I would to do it interior wise but other than, it's all good.

I'm curious, what would people think it's worth now at 120k miles for a private sale? (Note I'm not selling, I'm actually in the middle of a 2 month euro road trip ) I'm fortunate in that I've lucked into a couple of appreciating (to a greater or lesser extent) - I know where the 550 is roughly at but literally have no idea about the old german girl!

I would imagine you would get £25k without too much trouble, as you say it's a funny market but clean cars are selling for that at least, especially c2 manuals which sell way way quicker than the cab or rolling green house (targa)

[YoungMD]

Why aren't you parking the car in the tent and sleeping outside !!! Very nice car though

Mileage is a funny thing, it completely sets the price, buy on condition may sound great but people don't it's as simple as that. A 60k 993 would cost you well in advance of 30k, it may cost another 10k to get it right due to clutch, suspension and so on that may well need doing even if it is only 60k, but a 150k miler with all the suspension and everything done would probably not sell for much more than 25k...... There you go, don't buy a car with high mileage it's as programmed into us as don't go shopping with a women as both end in loads of money and frustration .......