Winter tyres/wheels 997.2

[StuH]

So I had a good look through the archive but there seems to be quite a few conflicting posts!

All I want it to stick 4 winter tyres on my 997.2 TT PDK. Ideally I'd like to use my normal wheels and switch the rubber, but if I need to switch wheels no biggie. I'd also like to keep it sensibly priced so if I need wheels I'll be trying eBay.

So, has anyone got experience of what tyres work well, and the best place to get them?

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DasChin said:

tyreleader.

winter tyres have some different brands to summer tyres which work well indeed so don't just go for the usual premium stuff.

brands like Nokian, nankang! Vredestein, Toyo make some cracking winter tyres as they specialise in these as well as agricultural tyres.

I have some Nokians on the audi Q5 and they are brilliant in the wet, cold and snow

Thanks - just had a quick look but alas nothing in the size for the rears - 305/30 ZR19 102Y

Only winter tyres of that size are Pirelli ScottZero, but I've not had good experience with Pirelli's previously..............

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Oso said:

I have found this document to be useful. Helps with recommended tyre and wheel sizes and offsets.

I have a set of Porsche winter wheels/tyres in the garage that I used on a previously owned wide bodied rear wheel drive 997. They came with the N rated Nokians, which were great. Totally different experience to the summer PS2s which were unpredictable when cold, even when the road was dry. Used the car all winter on the Nokians. Car had great front end grip on turn-in, was progressive on the limit at the rear and great on the brakes. Drove home one night down the M6 at minus 15 degrees and it just gripped and gripped. On another occasion I drove it back to back in four inches of snow with my A4 quattro (also on winters) and I had more confidence in the 911 - it turned in more positively and had plenty of traction with the weight of the engine out back over the driven wheels. Going to try the same set of wheels and winter tyres on my 997.2 turbo this winter, looking forward to seeing how it goes with the 4wd, I reckon it will be great.



edit: PM me if you want me to email you the document - not the easiest to read on the screen grab.

Edited by Oso on Tuesday 27th October 12:08

Edited by Oso on Tuesday 27th October 12:17

Brilliant - thanks!

I'll get on eBay and see what 9apart have got.....

[StuH]

So these look like the thing? http://www.mytyres.co.uk/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?dsco=110...

Just need to find some cheapish wheels...........

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Paddy_N_Murphy said:

OP- not wanting to teach Grandma' the suck thing, but you do realise they won't drive like summers?

I am not a driving legend but every time I swap from Summer to Winters, or vice Versa even I am "Whooooaaaaa there" you can definitely sense the difference. It surprised me.
The Winters feel like you are (unsurprisingly) moving around on the tread block a lot more. Needless to say a few miles / days and you recalibrate, and I do believe they are worthy (I am rural North Yorks, city living in Plymouth, perhaps less worthy).

Just saying so you realise.

I'm the OP so think you're aiming this at somebody else?

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Paddy_N_Murphy said:

I meant in a way to counter those that say of winter tyres - 'urggh I tried them and when braking from a ton up round a bend they felt horrid'

I see! I'm alright then as I drive like Miss Daisy in the winter

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Carl_Manchester said:

My tyres get switched on my Turbo today.

The ones you need are Sottozero 2's with 295 on the rear.

Ebay had a couple of used sets available with wheels (centrelock) for about £2k-£2.5k.

Indy will be around £1050inc for the tyres only (excluding fitting). OPC will be around £1300inc fitting.

Centrelock wheel and tyres package is £2800 excluding vat from OPC but tyre changes are complimentary (saving about £130 per change).

Hi Carl,

Be interested in how you find them. Is that on 19s?

The car has been completely brilliant in the heavy wet weather we've had this week. One of the reasons for getting the TT was it's fabled all-weather ability, and have to say it's lived up to that so far! Night and day level of confidence compared to recent RWD cars. It's my daily driver so looking forward to a safe and mobile winter this year.

I switched the X5 over to winters at the weekend and that seems great (and a lot more comfortable dropping from 20s to 18s).

Found a few vids while I was researching winters, which show how they work for anyone who's interested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elP_34ltdWI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfuE00qdhLA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLMwF5WR-us

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Zanderman said:

So winter tyres cover snow and make sense, we may or may not get any this year so not sure if they are worth getting ion the off chance we get a little for a few days?

Do winter tyres work for wet conditions? That is something we have much more of and for me would be more relevant and worth considering.

That's a pretty signfiicant improvement in wet braking and handling in the video - a few car lengths! Apparently much better at avoiding aquaplaning as well, due to water dispersal properties.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/motoringvideo/...

Winter tyres on a Porsche in the wet

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ORD said:

That hill simulates ice, not water.

Lol

Yes it 'simulates' ice but it actually IS water. I think it's a pretty good indication of how the different tyres compare in the wet.

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ORD said:

Nope, because it simulates ice, not water.

Priceless.

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Carl_Manchester said:

Yes, on 19inch centrelocks.

I will drop my opinion on them in the next couple of weeks.

Excllent - it would be much appreciated