991 GTS or 991 Turbo S

[cormeist]

Hi Guys, I'm the process of selling my PTS 991 GT3, debating what to buy next so the two cars are either a 2017 GTS or a 2017 Turbo S, drove a Turbo S the other week for an hour, not really ideally long enough, but thought it was a very accomplished car, but when Spec'd to my liking it's like £155k! So then you have a New GTS, less power but it does apeal to me, but still, Spec' it's £125k, I don't really keep my car for more than a year, depreciation aside, I'm wondering which would be better in the real world....

It's not a daily, just a weekend or midweek trackday car, any opinions would be greatly appreciated guys.

[cormeist]

Guys, understand where your coming from, however i need to strike up a buying history with Porsche.. (always paid overs) so i dont really have an option, but to pursue the GTS or Turbo route to still give me the GT3 buzz in the short term until i am (allowed to buy the halo cars!!!) Its bad i know, so going down that avenue at present

[cormeist]

No, I would like to buy a .2 GT3, so basically to achieve that there saying I need to start a buying history, be it a 911 or another model, on the flip side, I may just aswell buy a Gen2 GT3 from a flipper! As then initial outlay will probably work out the same if I bought the vanilla Porsches from the dealers which I'd loose in depreciation.... anyone agree ??

[cormeist]

They apparently have there next Allocation come December time, my salesman is up front with me and said I may not get one in the next batch, my heart says just walk away from the brand, but IF there's a chance my head is saying stay with the process.

So what your saying is, basically don't Spec up a GTS as it'll loose a fair wedge... that's understandable tbh, it's all very tiring to say the least, but like the lottery you gotta be in it to win it!!

kev.RS said:

What allocation are they saying as must be at least 2nd if you are lucky?
If they can guarantee you a car and you can get a physical order or a written letter from the DP stating that you have one of their allocated cars then I would buy a GTS if that is what is required but would want a definite answer as you don't want the salesman to feed you crap and after buying the GTS they say " Sorry sir you didn't qualify for a GT3".
What is the lead time of a GTS as probably won't be far off the GT3?
If you get an allocation then you worse case you loose £30k or so on the GTS but will be paying at least £50k over on a GT3 but may get one sooner as will have a chance of getting one of the first ones.
Apparently no pts either.

[cormeist]

Having to sell the .1 to fund the next purchase, I did hear on the romour mill regarding the warranty extension.. can you give me some insight into that?

[cormeist]

I came from a GT3 RS in UV, won't go into it... the GT3 I do enjoy, don't get me wrong. But I miss the smaller steering wheel on the RS, and also the new information system. i really need to drive a GTS as you say Kev, it may be a good stop gap, plus the st weather months coming, I'll use it more that I would the GT3, which I would just tuck up in the garage over autumn and winter.

OR.... I keep an eye out for a 2105 Turbo S!!!

[cormeist]

Taffy66 said:

I recently spent two days at the PEC driving back to back a 991.2GTS coupe and a 991.1GT3 and i was surprised how different they were.I've owned a new 991.2 GTS PDK coupe for a couple of months and i can guarantee you as an all round sporty roadcar you will find none more capable as the engine feels just like a very torquey nasp with no discernible lag and instant uge throughout the rev range.
When driving the 991.1GT3 at Silverstone what impressed me most was the spine tingling top end no turbo can hope to match however compared to the GTS i noticed a lack of torque in the low-mid range which makes the GTS a faster road car imo without being too anti social. I hated the GT3's larger steering wheel compared to the GTS's smaller 360mm but the GT3 was much more exciting on the track but the the GTS is a much better roadcar.
I'm lucky because i have a new GT3 PDK coming in October which i've yet to drive but i expect to address the two criticisms i had of the GT3.1 which was lack of torque and steering wheel size however i can't imagine any car ever improving on its top end and certainly no turbo.
Imv in your situation i would keep the GT3 especially with Porsche's new global 10yr 120k mile engine warranty however the new GTS would make a good alternative as i feel the turbo s is just too fast for the road and the lag and lack of noise would be a letdown after the GT3..

Taffy, thank you. this was just what i was looking for! like you i do love the experience/spine tingling you get with a GT3, i cant see me using it over the winter, as i respect the car too much to take it out in the st weather, whereas GTS would suit for that purpose if i felt the urge to take it out on a winters day.

Taffy, are the dealers really telling me the truth in regards to needing to strike up a buying history? I do really get on well with my salesman, we speak over Mobil phone each week, so do i just bite the bullet and keep with now buying direct from Porsche to be granted the Halo cars in the future??

[cormeist]

WCZ said:

you seem really lost tbh
what's your previous buying history with Porsche?
which halo cars are you specifically looking to get?
if you really want to ensure that you'll be getting an RS/GT2/4.0 type car then just owning 1 911 at a time isn't going to cut it

For me the GT range is where i want to be at, loved the RS but the GT3 i found you could drive under the radar, whereas the .1RS was a special car which i would only drive on odd occasions.

So you saying you really need to buy a fleet of Porsche's to gain access to the VIP club!

[cormeist]

Just took a GTS out for a test drive.. to say I'm impressed is an understatement! Porsche have really hit the sweet spot for sure with this model.! So I'm progressing with the GTS order, with a view also of ordering a Macan for the wife! Totting up those brownie points now! Ah also guys I have an PEC morning next week in a GTS, so that should be real fun!

[cormeist]

I can honestly say in that the GTS is faster on the road then my GT3, was so impressed, and NOW am looking forward to the arrival of the car.

My Spec is: graphite blue, CCB's, glass sunroof, GTS interior in rhodium silver, tinted sides and rear, 20mm suspension, lift, RWS. It's a really nice look what with the carbon brakes.

[cormeist]

Taffy66 said:

Good decision and the graphite looks killer in the GTS with black rims..I initially specced PCCBs on mine but bottled it last minute as mine as it turned out is only going to be with me until october when my GT3 arrives.If i was able to afford to i would keep it to run alongside my GT3 and will miss it as it is without doubt the best car i've ever driven.

Edited by Taffy66 on Tuesday 8th August 19:46

That's would be best of both worlds mate! Have to say, the GTS makes the .1GT3 seem slightly pointless if I'm frank. My guess is, .2GT3 will become also the sweet spot with the 4.0 low torque.