12 GT4's for sale on PistonHeads and growing (Vol. 2)
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Sandy59 said:
Porsche911R said:
bit of a tight spend, I would want adjustable toe links, a full geo, manifolds, with a remap and dsc.
Really it’s £8k for the full 430bhp
Set 2 piece disks and better pads.
Dsc module, or ttx shocks.
And the stage 2 RSS kit with full geo.
Bbs wheels
Bbi wing risers.
Lite blox battery
Set of light weight seats.
Lightweight FW
For £5k what would you do after knowing what you know on yours.
Sounds to me what might be interesting, would be some sort of equivalent Manthey K400 kit that was available on the 996 GT3, ie something proven, standardised and recognised ??Really it’s £8k for the full 430bhp
Set 2 piece disks and better pads.
Dsc module, or ttx shocks.
And the stage 2 RSS kit with full geo.
Bbs wheels
Bbi wing risers.
Lite blox battery
Set of light weight seats.
Lightweight FW
For £5k what would you do after knowing what you know on yours.
I could see me maybe being up for that.
it just gets more expensive if you want the full beans 433bhp
manifold,Cobb , toe links, geo and DSC if tracking, jobs jobs a job for £5k
Twinfan said:
woollyjoe said:
Porsche will simply require a major service and 111 point check.
I’ve been through it on a very low mileage 997.2 with no OPC service history ever. Getting a warranty will be fine.
Even with no service history at all, not just no OPC servicing? The car potentially hasn't had an oil change in 4 years and has been sat in a garage.I’ve been through it on a very low mileage 997.2 with no OPC service history ever. Getting a warranty will be fine.
Yes. if there are issues when they service and inspect, it does not get warrantied. You still have to discuss with Porsche. It’s not matter of fact; you still have to discuss with Porsche. What works even more in the buyers favour is that it is a GT product. That matters to
porsche.
As mentioned. I’m talking from experience. If you know otherwise?
Twinfan said:
I don't expect the car to have any issues, I just know Porsche are a stickler for following the rules when it comes to the extended warranty.
It’s speculation on that car. The 600 miles it has covered could easily have included 2 trips to OPC for bi-annual service and gearbox recall, in which case, this line of questioning is closed. The end.
Porsche911R said:
Sandy59 said:
Porsche911R said:
bit of a tight spend, I would want adjustable toe links, a full geo, manifolds, with a remap and dsc.
Really it’s £8k for the full 430bhp
Set 2 piece disks and better pads.
Dsc module, or ttx shocks.
And the stage 2 RSS kit with full geo.
Bbs wheels
Bbi wing risers.
Lite blox battery
Set of light weight seats.
Lightweight FW
For £5k what would you do after knowing what you know on yours.
Sounds to me what might be interesting, would be some sort of equivalent Manthey K400 kit that was available on the 996 GT3, ie something proven, standardised and recognised ??Really it’s £8k for the full 430bhp
Set 2 piece disks and better pads.
Dsc module, or ttx shocks.
And the stage 2 RSS kit with full geo.
Bbs wheels
Bbi wing risers.
Lite blox battery
Set of light weight seats.
Lightweight FW
For £5k what would you do after knowing what you know on yours.
I could see me maybe being up for that.
it just gets more expensive if you want the full beans 433bhp
manifold,Cobb , toe links, geo and DSC if tracking, jobs jobs a job for £5k
Slotted 2-piece Rotors and uprated pads, braided lines and uprated fluid.
MR Lower Arm Package or Stage 2 RSS kit
Geo
For that you have a solid package, and it pretty much what I have anyway.
Additionally I also have DSC, which I had started experimenting with, and power was up next, until everything got stopped.
Ref the K400 equivalent... I talked about this way back... but MR don't touch drivetrain on modern cars as a condition of their 51% ownership by Porsche. As David says... most vendors have proven out and settled on the Cargraphic manifold based kit.
The main thing you need to uncork the standard car is better flowing manifolds and so its just down to the design of the manifold as to whether or not you need other parts also.... after that you're having to open the case.
Edited by TDT on Saturday 18th April 12:51
This car has been up for sale/sold/for sale/sold etc that I've lost count. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Porsche-Cayman-gt4/1641...
I know its a damaged repaired but surprised it's not gone when the price starts with a 4
I know its a damaged repaired but surprised it's not gone when the price starts with a 4
Armitage.Shanks said:
This car has been up for sale/sold/for sale/sold etc that I've lost count. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Porsche-Cayman-gt4/1641...
I know its a damaged repaired but surprised it's not gone when the price starts with a 4
I thought it sold a couple weeks ago? I know its a damaged repaired but surprised it's not gone when the price starts with a 4
After asking my OPC about getting a slot for the new GT4 on about 5 different occasions in the last 12 months, and them fobbing me off with the usual “dont call us, we wont call you either”, they emailed last week asking if i was still interested.
Of course politely told them to do one given the current macro. Guess they are running out of punters on the list. Vindication is sweet.
Of course politely told them to do one given the current macro. Guess they are running out of punters on the list. Vindication is sweet.
Edited by R33FAL on Sunday 19th April 19:07
TDT said:
For my £5K - i'd go with the following:
Slotted 2-piece Rotors and uprated pads, braided lines and uprated fluid.
MR Lower Arm Package or Stage 2 RSS kit
Geo
For that you have a solid package, and it pretty much what I have anyway.
Additionally I also have DSC, which I had started experimenting with, and power was up next, until everything got stopped.
Ref the K400 equivalent... I talked about this way back... but MR don't touch drivetrain on modern cars as a condition of their 51% ownership by Porsche. As David says... most vendors have proven out and settled on the Cargraphic manifold based kit.
The main thing you need to uncork the standard car is better flowing manifolds and so its just down to the design of the manifold as to whether or not you need other parts also.... after that you're having to open the case.
I'd go for the MR lower suspension arms and the KW 3 way club sports with a good geo set-up, and more driver tuition.Slotted 2-piece Rotors and uprated pads, braided lines and uprated fluid.
MR Lower Arm Package or Stage 2 RSS kit
Geo
For that you have a solid package, and it pretty much what I have anyway.
Additionally I also have DSC, which I had started experimenting with, and power was up next, until everything got stopped.
Ref the K400 equivalent... I talked about this way back... but MR don't touch drivetrain on modern cars as a condition of their 51% ownership by Porsche. As David says... most vendors have proven out and settled on the Cargraphic manifold based kit.
The main thing you need to uncork the standard car is better flowing manifolds and so its just down to the design of the manifold as to whether or not you need other parts also.... after that you're having to open the case.
Edited by TDT on Saturday 18th April 12:51
And if the steel discs proved to be a problem I'd fit ST's to the standard steel system once the steel discs needed replacing. But that would be extra budget with a contribution from the cost of the steels replacement plus what I would have spet on PCCB's !
ChrisW. said:
TDT said:
For my £5K - i'd go with the following:
Slotted 2-piece Rotors and uprated pads, braided lines and uprated fluid.
MR Lower Arm Package or Stage 2 RSS kit
Geo
For that you have a solid package, and it pretty much what I have anyway.
Additionally I also have DSC, which I had started experimenting with, and power was up next, until everything got stopped.
Ref the K400 equivalent... I talked about this way back... but MR don't touch drivetrain on modern cars as a condition of their 51% ownership by Porsche. As David says... most vendors have proven out and settled on the Cargraphic manifold based kit.
The main thing you need to uncork the standard car is better flowing manifolds and so its just down to the design of the manifold as to whether or not you need other parts also.... after that you're having to open the case.
I'd go for the MR lower suspension arms and the KW 3 way club sports with a good geo set-up, and more driver tuition.Slotted 2-piece Rotors and uprated pads, braided lines and uprated fluid.
MR Lower Arm Package or Stage 2 RSS kit
Geo
For that you have a solid package, and it pretty much what I have anyway.
Additionally I also have DSC, which I had started experimenting with, and power was up next, until everything got stopped.
Ref the K400 equivalent... I talked about this way back... but MR don't touch drivetrain on modern cars as a condition of their 51% ownership by Porsche. As David says... most vendors have proven out and settled on the Cargraphic manifold based kit.
The main thing you need to uncork the standard car is better flowing manifolds and so its just down to the design of the manifold as to whether or not you need other parts also.... after that you're having to open the case.
Edited by TDT on Saturday 18th April 12:51
And if the steel discs proved to be a problem I'd fit ST's to the standard steel system once the steel discs needed replacing. But that would be extra budget with a contribution from the cost of the steels replacement plus what I would have spet on PCCB's !
TDT said:
Aren’t you breaking your £5k budget with the MR arms & KW Clubsport?
By about double lolIt’s tricky with the oem GT4 as it’s flawed,
So you fit the power you want the handling , and visa versa.
No cheap fixes, and you are still stuck with the gearing even if you spend £20k on it.
But imo it needs the power fix more than the handling , that’s what felt lacking in mine after rear toe links and a proper setup.
Porsche911R said:
TDT said:
Aren’t you breaking your £5k budget with the MR arms & KW Clubsport?
By about double lolIt’s tricky with the oem GT4 as it’s flawed,
So you fit the power you want the handling , and visa versa.
No cheap fixes, and you are still stuck with the gearing even if you spend £20k on it.
But imo it needs the power fix more than the handling , that’s what felt lacking in mine after rear toe links and a proper setup.
I agree that once you have set the chassis up properly - you have a pretty capable package... but then you will want more performance.
Ref gearing - i think you have to be careful. Final drive isn't the right answer on this car as you end up shortening everything and the car becomes compromised for road..e.g. a long road trip... where 6th now is gonna be even shorter holding higher revs @70mph.
So you really need custom gears... and this is very expensive.
I would love to drive a short gear car... I was tempt to swap into the Black one that was at JZM a couple months back...as that had custom 3, 4, 5 I think... but again you really need to change 2, 3, 4 ,5 and keep OEM 6th or make it a little longer as a proper overdrive...e.g. 7th gear ratio from the 991.2 S/T Manual
Only changing 3,4,5 leave you with two 2 second gears..as the new 3 is so close in ratio to OEM 2nd.
Tuning for power, is really the better route in order to retain the overall capability of road and track. You optimise the map and release the latent potential... this covers the gearing issues as the car now rips through the gears as it has more grunt to do so, engine runs better and is more efficient doing it.
Awesome hearing what mods you guys would do for £5k. As someone who hopes to own one eventually, it's good to get a head start on my shopping list haha.
Regarding geo, who is the 'go-to' for setting these up? Center Gravity did an amazing job on 987 a few years ago, are they also recommended for GT4's?
Regarding geo, who is the 'go-to' for setting these up? Center Gravity did an amazing job on 987 a few years ago, are they also recommended for GT4's?
Really enjoying some of these posts, for me I would be getting control arms,shims to run more camber, lower the car as much as I could get away with, front 2 piece brake disc, braided lines, dot 6 brake fluid, rs 29 brake pads then learn to drive the car to 80% of its capabilities, then I would be fairly confident I would be pissing past most things on a track day, but to give a insight in times on 3 different tracks Bedford, Snetterton, Donnington which I have done with my standard 981 GT4 with a aim solo timer against my clubsport E46 M3 with AP PRO brakes, intrax 1k2 suspension, slick tyres and a few other trick track orientated bits, Bedford, GT4 2.52 then thrown off for noise, M3 2.46, Donny GT4,1.23, M3 1.19 and Snetterton GT4 2.16, M3, 2.10, the M3 is 360bhp, 285 torque and about 120kg heavier than the GT4, I have run sticky road going tyres at snetty with a time of 2.13 in the M3, the new 781 clubsport GT4 done some testing at Snetterton early this year with a best time of 2.02 on slicks, so with a few changes to my standard 981 GT4 on the new cup 2s I will be hoping to get very close to the M3 times if not better, I would consider my times in the E46 M3 decent for a clubsport road car but let you be the judge of that, just got to wait for the warranty to run out on the GT4 then all systems go then look forward to using the car as intended, to get back on thread who cares what the price of a 981 GT4 is, great value for what ever you pay for it
Edited by 04BAP on Monday 20th April 20:40
Edited by 04BAP on Monday 20th April 20:46
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