The 718 GT4 might be arriving sooner than you think!

The 718 GT4 might be arriving sooner than you think!

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Fokker

3,460 posts

224 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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Its not a F4T. I'd actually go with F6T if anything but that would be just too fast and probably faster than a GT4 with a F6 N/A.

Bet on it being a F6 N/A but i agree, its really hard to tell.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

106 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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Even in that brief GT3 clip you can hear that the engine note is a higher pitch than the Spyder mule. It sounds much like the 981 Spyders I posted a few minutes ago.

Based on the two Spyder clips we've now heard, I'd be putting my money on an F6T in that car and also the GT4 (given the same diffuser and exhaust arrangement). It would also explain why the official leaked pics etc never have any sound, Porsche may be wanting to keep people guessing to promote speculation in the press and forums. I appreciate that could work both ways of course!

I'd be surprised if the GT4 is an F6T, but I really don't think it sounds like it's NASP.

TrackNutz

164 posts

78 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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That first video is hilarious. Sounds turbocharged to me. Muffled resonance of a turbocharged flat 6.

If it was naturally aspirated it would be a pure blaring exhaust note with no hint of dampening.

It just reeks of forced induction.

Could even be a equal length manifold setup on a flat 4.

I would laugh my pants off if it didn't have a flat 6 naturally aspirated engine, as 981 GT4 and Spyder prices will skyrocket.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

106 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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Sorry, I meant pics only - no video. We've had video of cars on the 'ring previously but they were suspiciously absent last year.

The only advantages I can see are that it's an existing engine and it follows the brief of the 981 GT4 in using the Carrera S engine.

Like I said, I'd also be surprised if it's an F6T but from those clips (and the autobahn clip) it sure sounds like it is one.

jcosh

1,172 posts

234 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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I'm no expert but that all sounds like a forced induction engine to me with OTT pops and crackles that are often engineered into these engines to make them sound more sporty than they would otherwise do.

I hope I'm wrong as I really would like the next GT4 to be NA, if it's not then I'll be keeping existing one for a very long time.

Phooey

12,670 posts

171 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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Sounds a bit 3.0T

Certainly doesn’t sound like a 4.0 GT3 unit spin

Edited by Phooey on Tuesday 17th April 17:44

Twinfan

10,125 posts

106 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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Phooey said:
Sounds a bit 3.0T
After just checking out some videos of the Carrera T and Carrera S on YouTube I'd have to agree.

gtsralph

1,194 posts

146 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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They are not running at high enough revs to know with any certainty.

TrackNutz

164 posts

78 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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anonymous said:
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Not me.

TrackNutz

164 posts

78 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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From that Instagram video, there is no chance that's naturally aspirated.

Anyone who's heard lots of Porsche's, place a any 981 exhaust sound in their mind, then watch the video, no naturally aspirated traits at all.

Secret director

162 posts

79 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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Sounds like my Carrera T.....

jcosh

1,172 posts

234 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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anonymous said:
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Sure they do, but the GT4 (mine anyway) is less 'manufactured' than that.

I quite like pops and cracks but they can be a bit OTT on some cars.

lemmingjames

7,481 posts

206 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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Sounds like the tears of people who arent going to get what they want in the engine

TrackNutz

164 posts

78 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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anonymous said:
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Please. That sounds nothing like a 981, not one ounce. You're telling me that sounds like a flat six naturally aspirated lump? Please direct me to a YouTube video of these "special" 981's you've driven that sound similar? laugh

It sounds awfully like the dull muffled tones of the 3.0T.

I think you're not being honest with yourself at all. I'd be the same if I was in the market for a new 718 but I'm not, so I'm indifferent on what the resultant engine will be. I'd also be the same if I was trying to keep my reputation intact from previous inside claims, but again I'm not in that position.

Fokker

3,460 posts

224 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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I reckon it could be a turbo too on listening to it. I have far fewer over run pops on my GT4 and from experience of driving the 3 litre turbo, it has much more in the way of overrun pops - just like the spyder in this video.

What i can't fathom though is that the Spyder will have a different engine to the GT4?
If it is a F6T then the GT4 will have to have a properly good N/A lump akin to a slightly restricted GT3.

Here's hoping to be honest. I couldn't give a toss about the Spyder, its the GT4 I'm interested in!


Twinfan

10,125 posts

106 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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Based on the exhaust and diffuser arrangement, and the brakes/wheels, seen on the Spyder and GT4 mules I would say the cars will identical bar the roof (or not!). I can't see Porsche developing two new engines for niche products, it just doesn't make sense.

If all the NASP rumours turn out to be incorrect that'll be madness!

jcosh

1,172 posts

234 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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Fokker said:
I reckon it could be a turbo too on listening to it. I have far fewer over run pops on my GT4 and from experience of driving the 3 litre turbo, it has much more in the way of overrun pops - just like the spyder in this video.

What i can't fathom though is that the Spyder will have a different engine to the GT4?
If it is a F6T then the GT4 will have to have a properly good N/A lump akin to a slightly restricted GT3.

Here's hoping to be honest. I couldn't give a toss about the Spyder, its the GT4 I'm interested in!
This, Amen brother!

jcosh

1,172 posts

234 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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Fokker said:
I reckon it could be a turbo too on listening to it. I have far fewer over run pops on my GT4 and from experience of driving the 3 litre turbo, it has much more in the way of overrun pops - just like the spyder in this video.

What i can't fathom though is that the Spyder will have a different engine to the GT4?
If it is a F6T then the GT4 will have to have a properly good N/A lump akin to a slightly restricted GT3.

Here's hoping to be honest. I couldn't give a toss about the Spyder, its the GT4 I'm interested in!
This, Amen brother!

Twinfan

10,125 posts

106 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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Another video from the same Instagram poster, with a 718 following:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BhrqbzPA_OS/

Not exactly conclusive, but the Spyder doesn't sound like an F4T based on that. I think it sounds F6T?

Twinfan

10,125 posts

106 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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And another with the 718 first this time...

https://www.instagram.com/p/BhrrkqjAZwt/