Chris Harris GT4 review

Chris Harris GT4 review

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Trotmant

385 posts

116 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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PorscheGT4 said:
Skill less you mean ?

It's 1 finger driving , even drifting, was tempted to post a vid taking a film in one hand while resting my foot on the dash while drifting on a round about, but thought I might get nicked lol.

Edited by PorscheGT4 on Wednesday 25th March 08:15
Please post drivinglaughrofl

FrankCayman

2,121 posts

215 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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anonymous said:
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OT...but how come you drive so many different cars? Are you in the trade/car journo??

I hope you don't mind me asking!

Trotmant

385 posts

116 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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anonymous said:
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But if you where forcing into playing a game of golf, out of the ones listed above, which one would you pick for their transmission out of interest and why?

PorscheGT4

21,146 posts

267 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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FrankCayman said:
OT...but how come you drive so many different cars? Are you in the trade/car journo??

I hope you don't mind me asking!
He writes for some one, not sure why he keeps it quite.
Thing is 30 minutes in these cars does not mean much imo.

How many people ever agree with jurno's , just about selling a story/ mag.

av185

18,688 posts

129 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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Lets get the facts right chaps......yes

Pushing a button to change gear largely went out with the ark tiptronics....unless perhaps you are a m/f steering wheel geek.

With PDK one changes gear using a flappy paddle. eek

PDK S is totally different to PDK.

All this misunderstanding and confusion is even further proof that the bearded PDK haters have probably never even driven one and have certainly never experienced the benefits of one on a day to day basis. In contrast, those having owned both PDK and 'manuel' can feel justifiably experienced and qualified to comment.......driving

isaldiri

18,881 posts

170 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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av185 said:
PDK S is totally different to PDK.
Hate to get dragged into this but this mantra gets repeated so often it's really quite baffling...

Exactly how 'totally different' is PDK-S than PDK? You pull a paddle, it changes gear, albeit a bit quicker and sharper. That's not my definition of 'totally different'. I also note that the 918 which is the true example of what Porsche are able to do technologically has never claimed to have this novel and wonderful PDK-S box but merely a very highly refined and advanced PDK unit.

PorscheGT4

21,146 posts

267 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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av185 said:
With PDK one changes gear using a flappy paddle. eek

PDK S is totally different to PDK.
like one changes gear using a flappy paddle lol

or as most do it seems fail at that also and just drive full auto any way.

PorscheGT4

21,146 posts

267 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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av185 said:
both PDK and 'manuel'
why do you call manual 'manuel' the waiter in Faulty towers ?

I still don't get it ! is it an in joke ?

braddo

10,693 posts

190 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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I find it astonishing that there are some people who simply refuse to accept that some other people want manual gearboxes, as if it is some sort of illegitimate choice.

It doesn't matter what type of automated gearbox it is (old-school automated manual, dual clutch, torque converter, AMG's hybrids), some people want a conventional manual. Why is that so hard to accept?


V8KSN

Original Poster:

4,711 posts

186 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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av185 said:
Lets get the facts right chaps......yes

Pushing a button to change gear largely went out with the ark tiptronics....unless perhaps you are a m/f steering wheel geek.

With PDK one changes gear using a flappy paddle. eek

PDK S is totally different to PDK.

All this misunderstanding and confusion is even further proof that the bearded PDK haters have probably never even driven one and have certainly never experienced the benefits of one on a day to day basis. In contrast, those having owned both PDK and 'manuel' can feel justifiably experienced and qualified to comment.......driving
Unless you can heel and toe i.e. use a manual gearbox properly, you are NOT qualified to say you can use a manual gearbox properly.

BTW I DON'T have a beard and I AM a fully fledged paid up member of the PlayStation generation beer

aelord

337 posts

227 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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PorscheGT4 said:
av185 said:
both PDK and 'manuel'
why do you call manual 'manuel' the waiter in Faulty towers ?

I still don't get it ! is it an in joke ?
Why do you call Fawlty, 'Faulty'?

Asterix

24,438 posts

230 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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PorscheGT4 said:
av185 said:
both PDK and 'manuel'
why do you call manual 'manuel' the waiter in Faulty towers ?

I still don't get it ! is it an in joke ?
996 Air Con display?

braddo

10,693 posts

190 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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cardigankid said:
.... All this stuff about a heavy clutch etc is just an urban myth.....
To be fair, a manual GT3's clutch is pretty heavy (compared to the other manual cars I've driven, at least), to the point of it getting annoying/tiring if in stop-start traffic for a long time. But, it is a completely irrelevant point in the general topic of some people simply wanting manual gearboxes, and wanting the right to choose.

Vive le choix. beer

I'm curious whether the GT4's clutch is different to the standard Cayman's and therefore any heavier and more direct.

V8KSN

Original Poster:

4,711 posts

186 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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anonymous said:
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I drove an R-tronic V8 R8 though Wales a couple of years back. Would have much preferred a manual but I was surprised how much I enjoyed driving it.

It required a little lift off the throttle then flicking the paddle to select the next gear then back on the throttle again. It was quite fun and the down changes were very smooth but it was all a bit too easy after a while.

You end up being 'along for the ride' as opposed to 'driving' the car.

av185

18,688 posts

129 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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PorscheGT4 said:
av185 said:
both PDK and 'manuel'
why do you call manual 'manuel' the waiter in Faulty towers ?

I still don't get it ! is it an in joke ?
Whoosh parrot aside........same reason as why you spell Fawlty Faulty.....but mine was deliberate.......hehe

av185

18,688 posts

129 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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V8KSN said:
av185 said:
Lets get the facts right chaps......yes

Pushing a button to change gear largely went out with the ark tiptronics....unless perhaps you are a m/f steering wheel geek.

With PDK one changes gear using a flappy paddle. eek

PDK S is totally different to PDK.

All this misunderstanding and confusion is even further proof that the bearded PDK haters have probably never even driven one and have certainly never experienced the benefits of one on a day to day basis. In contrast, those having owned both PDK and 'manuel' can feel justifiably experienced and qualified to comment.......driving
Unless you can heel and toe i.e. use a manual gearbox properly, you are NOT qualified to say you can use a manual gearbox properly.

BTW I DON'T have a beard and I AM a fully fledged paid up member of the PlayStation generation beer
I own 'manuel', PDK and PDK S cars and am a fan of all three btw....as already said it depends on the car as to what gearbox suits. IMO, and most others, the 991 GT3 suits a PDK S. As for the GT4, it will probably suit both in equal measures but we will have to see whether the non PDK S is aggressive eniugh for the car.

PorscheGT4

21,146 posts

267 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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anonymous said:
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you did not do enough in a 987.2 car to know what the brake issues were :-p but went on about that like you knew every thing ...

av185

18,688 posts

129 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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PorscheGT4 said:
av185 said:
With PDK one changes gear using a flappy paddle. eek

PDK S is totally different to PDK.
like one changes gear using a flappy paddle lol

or as most do it seems fail at that also and just drive full auto any way.
Never used auto on mine. Most GT3 owners likewise. driving

PorscheGT4

21,146 posts

267 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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av185 said:
Whoosh parrot aside........same reason as why you spell Fawlty Faulty.....but mine was deliberate.......hehe
I don't get it still, I spelt faulty that way because I am crap at spelling (so not the same reason) and every one knows this , but you choose to spell it wrong, but I don't see the joke !
I am the 1st to say I cannot spell for st, but I can change gear, and while I find my poor spelling frustrating like driving a GT3 :-p is, I find changing with a manual box very rewarding.

av185

18,688 posts

129 months

Wednesday 25th March 2015
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isaldiri said:
av185 said:
PDK S is totally different to PDK.
Hate to get dragged into this but this mantra gets repeated so often it's really quite baffling...

Exactly how 'totally different' is PDK-S than PDK? You pull a paddle, it changes gear, albeit a bit quicker and sharper. That's not my definition of 'totally different'. I also note that the 918 which is the true example of what Porsche are able to do technologically has never claimed to have this novel and wonderful PDK-S box but merely a very highly refined and advanced PDK unit.
Shorter and firmer paddle throw, quicker and more aggressive change, non creep, 'manuel' means 'manuel' with no auto kickdown override facility.