The 718 GT4 might be arriving sooner than you think!
Discussion
Twinfan said:
The Rennlist poster who races a ClubSportm is getting the new CS and was at Weissach last week states that it's manual only for the GT4 and Spyder. He also states the engine is a stroked version of the old 3.8 sporting a 4.0 capacity and 420bhp.
Given his previous posting info and reputation, I'm accepting his info as correct.
Given his previous posting info and reputation, I'm accepting his info as correct.
Agree— the Rennlist poster has previously proven correct with his “insider knowledge”....
He speaks in riddles, but has just seen the car at Weissach in person....Twinfan— Do you think Whoopsy is specifically stating the new GT4 motor will be a stroked upgrade to 4L, and is therefore definitively ruling out a de-tuned GT3 4L engine..... The riddles are cryptic, and I can’t decipher whether he is definite on whether the new motor is an upgraded 3.8, or a downgraded 4.....!!
As we're taking about manual (I hate this whole Spanish 'manuel' thing arghh) if you want the best manual gearbox stick to the GT4.
The 991.2 GT3 manual is ok bit not amazing imo, certainly not as good as the GT4's which is sweeeeeet, ratios aside which I don't mind anyway.
GT3 is less good and I own both....
The 991.2 GT3 manual is ok bit not amazing imo, certainly not as good as the GT4's which is sweeeeeet, ratios aside which I don't mind anyway.
GT3 is less good and I own both....
Twinfan said:
^ yep, what cmoose said. It will basically be the old engine stroked to 4.0 litres.
And new, on the used market (if that makes sense 
) you'll be paying well over 100k for the privilege...I also think its going to be less pretty, too much defuser, and possibly too aggressive on the front bumper side of things.
The Gen 1 is nicely proportioned
Fokker said:
Twinfan said:
^ yep, what cmoose said. It will basically be the old engine stroked to 4.0 litres.
And new, on the used market (if that makes sense ) you'll be paying well over 100k for the privilege...I also think its going to be less pretty, too much defuser, and possibly too aggressive on the front bumper side of things.
The Gen 1 is nicely proportioned
New car is defo uglier and fatter..... If the 981GT4 can relatively easily be tuned up to 420 horses (which it can), why bother with the new model..... Increasingly not seeing the point of this new GT4 tbh....
Whoopsy mentioned that the engine will be unique to the 718 GT4 at launch.... it was a fairly ambiguous as to whether this is unique to GT4 only, or GT4 and Spyder as pair, or even the GT4 road car and the race car as that is what he went to see.
As has been said.. from the current shots and extrapolated renderings, the 981 GT4 is much better looking... not sure how much of a jump the new car will be hp aside.. as the 3.8 can be upgraded to a similar level anyway. So advancements boil down to tyre improvement and anything they add on the chassis side. I've registered my interest - but i won't be clamouring after one on the overs market if i don't get offered. The 981 GT4 is a great car - after having 2x981s, GTS and now GT4, I'd probably be moving to something else in the range.
As has been said.. from the current shots and extrapolated renderings, the 981 GT4 is much better looking... not sure how much of a jump the new car will be hp aside.. as the 3.8 can be upgraded to a similar level anyway. So advancements boil down to tyre improvement and anything they add on the chassis side. I've registered my interest - but i won't be clamouring after one on the overs market if i don't get offered. The 981 GT4 is a great car - after having 2x981s, GTS and now GT4, I'd probably be moving to something else in the range.
Swimfinz said:
Agree— the Rennlist poster has previously proven correct with his “insider knowledge”.... He speaks in riddles, but has just seen the car at Weissach in person....
Twinfan— Do you think Whoopsy is specifically stating the new GT4 motor will be a stroked upgrade to 4L, and is therefore definitively ruling out a de-tuned GT3 4L engine..... The riddles are cryptic, and I can’t decipher whether he is definite on whether the new motor is an upgraded 3.8, or a downgraded 4.....!!
I've read Whoopy's recent posts with great interest, and despite using my very best deduction skills, i remain just as confused due to the open ended cryptic nature of his clues.. He speaks in riddles, but has just seen the car at Weissach in person....Twinfan— Do you think Whoopsy is specifically stating the new GT4 motor will be a stroked upgrade to 4L, and is therefore definitively ruling out a de-tuned GT3 4L engine..... The riddles are cryptic, and I can’t decipher whether he is definite on whether the new motor is an upgraded 3.8, or a downgraded 4.....!!
Twinfan said:
I think the final car may have a hint of GT2RS about it's looks, which to me wouldn't be a bad thing.
Yep, I mentioned this a while back when we saw the first shots of the new front bumper.. it has the aero skirt type devices in front of the front wheels to clean up the air that falls out of the wheel well - which may affect the stream in to the side intakes - also helps with drag reduction.Personally have always felt since before the 981 GT4 was in mule testing that they should have made this a mini-GT2....but again for the position in the brand vs price they would be limited on how much performance it would be allowed to have.
Twinfan said:
The Rennlist poster who races a ClubSportm is getting the new CS and was at Weissach last week states that it's manual only for the GT4 and Spyder. He also states the engine is a stroked version of the old 3.8 sporting a 4.0 capacity and 420bhp.
Given his previous posting info and reputation, I'm accepting his info as correct.
Will the RS if built have this engine or the GT3 engine?Given his previous posting info and reputation, I'm accepting his info as correct.
I'm guessing you could PowerKit this non-GT3 4.0 engine and get the extra 20-30PS you'd need for an RS version. Putting the GT3 engine in, with a detune via the ECU, wouldn't be something Porsche would do as it would be too easy to unleash it. There would need to be hardware restrictions too.
Twinfan said:
I'm guessing you could PowerKit this non-GT3 4.0 engine and get the extra 20-30PS you'd need for an RS version. Putting the GT3 engine in, with a detune via the ECU, wouldn't be something Porsche would do as it would be too easy to unleash it. There would need to be hardware restrictions too.
Guys in the US already do this ...X51 PowerKit on top of 4.0L version of the 3.8 + race headers or high flow 200cell cat headers + Cobb Protune.You get top end sparkle from the Powerkit on the intake side, and uplift in torque everywhere as a result of 4.0L and Headers.
The forumla is know... just a case of whether or not Porsche would ever do an OEM version of this and stick a warranty on it. Tuners don't have to provide the same level of warranty.
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