The 718 GT4 might be arriving sooner than you think!

[rkwm1]

Unfortunately it doesn't get classed as bribery according to a friend i have in the NCA. Its something HMRC would be very interested in though, if you could prove that cash is going to the DP.

[rkwm1]

Back on topic, more pics of 718 GT4 and Spyder out testing. Apparently will be unveiled in Paris in October.







https://www.motor1.com/photo/3180473/porsche-718-c...

I think the Spyder rear looks much nicer the the GT4.

Edited by rkwm1 on Wednesday 22 August 13:13

[Boxster_racer]

rkwm1 said:

Back on topic, more pics of 718 GT4 and Spyder out testing. Apparently will be unveiled in Paris in October.







https://www.motor1.com/photo/3180473/porsche-718-c...

Thanks for the update !
What would you say are the points to consider when choosing between GT4 over the Spyder?

[Twinfan]

Boxster_racer said:

Thanks for the update !
What would you say are the points to consider when choosing between GT4 over the Spyder?

Do you want a roof or not, and can you afford one or the other.

They'll be otherwise identical in spec according to the rumours, so just a roof and price difference.

[rkwm1]

Boxster_racer said:

Thanks for the update !
What would you say are the points to consider when choosing between GT4 over the Spyder?

Your welcome.

If others are correct and the Spyder is going to be roofless GT4, then i guess for me it will come down to if i want open top motoring or the small amount of additional luggage space. I'll toss a coin when the time comes lol.

[TDT]

Looks like a updated wheel design as well.

Nice.

[BubblesNW]

Looks like the rear spoiler has spent too much time in the sun and the ends have melted...

[Boxster_racer]

Twinfan said:

Do you want a roof or not, and can you afford one or the other.

They'll be otherwise identical in spec according to the rumours, so just a roof and price difference.

Thanks Twinfan. In that case, I do prefer no roof ! It is somewhat safer to have a hard roof in case of an accident, particularly if the car ‘flips’, right? I’m all for thinking positive and hopefully I’ll never experience such an accident, but I’m covering all possible decision points.

[Boxster_racer]

rkwm1 said:

Your welcome.

If others are correct and the Spyder is going to be roofless GT4, then i guess for me it will come down to if i want open top motoring or the small amount of additional luggage space. I'll toss a coin when the time comes lol.

I may end up doing the same !!

[RSVP911]

Boxster_racer said:

I may end up doing the same !!

I guess it will be up to your OPC if you are allowed one and which

[RSVP911]

rkwm1 said:

Back on topic, more pics of 718 GT4 and Spyder out testing. Apparently will be unveiled in Paris in October.







https://www.motor1.com/photo/3180473/porsche-718-c...

I think the Spyder rear looks much nicer the the GT4.

Edited by rkwm1 on Wednesday 22 August 13:13

I’m not sure either are quite right , both a bit Robocop - but agree , works better on the Spyder

[RSVP911]

rkwm1 said:

Unfortunately it doesn't get classed as bribery according to a friend i have in the NCA. Its something HMRC would be very interested in though, if you could prove that cash is going to the DP.

I imagine so, it’s a cash in hand income stream. I also think if the person in question has flipped three cars without using them then that sounds like a business transaction to me and as such, any profit should be taxable

Either way, it’s simply very stty, sharp practice.

I have no idea what a DP gets paid, nor do I care, but one can only assume that it’s not enough for them to do the right thing.

[J-P]

rkwm1 said:

Boxster_racer said:

Thanks ! Wonder if it’s worth the extra £££

I guess it will be and then some.

Hopefully it will look something like this

Hopefully, yes - so much want!!!

[Porsche911R]

J-P said:

Hopefully, yes - so much want!!!

I would pay £100k for that.

annoying that Porsche won't make anything like that :-(

[Boxster_racer]

Porsche911R said:

I would pay £100k for that.

annoying that Porsche won't make anything like that :-(

£100k seems rather steep...!
In case Porsche is reading our forum... £80k max for a GT4 RS...!

[PhantomPH]

Christ, I really want a Spyder. Shame there's no chance of me getting on the 'approved buyers' list.

[Taffy66]

RSVP911 said:

I imagine so, it’s a cash in hand income stream. I also think if the person in question has flipped three cars without using them then that sounds like a business transaction to me and as such, any profit should be taxable

Either way, it’s simply very stty, sharp practice.

I have no idea what a DP gets paid, nor do I care, but one can only assume that it’s not enough for them to do the right thing.

Its wholy at the IR's discretion on whether any profits derived from flipping is deemed to be taxable income or unearned income..I suspect that if an individual who's flipped more than a couple of cars for profit then the IR would classify him as a trader resulting in the profits being classed as taxable income.
Knowing my local OPC's DP pretty well i'm very confident he wouldn't be complicit in any dubious acts of receiving any form of bribery..After all they earn circa £150k per annum plus benefits meaning they earn more than the majority of his customers..
In terms of the same guy receiving all the special cars i'm pretty sure its because he/she is the OPC's biggest customer in terms of buying other Porsches, therefore very awkward for the DP not to yield to his demands especially if this extremely 'well heeled' individual threatens to take his business elsewhere..
He might even have got over the DP's head directly to Porsche GB Hq or the owner of the franchise..This is probably quite common practice in many OPCs across the UK..
The secret is to be the biggest fish in the pond and to achieve that you sometimes have to find another smaller pond with smaller fish than yourself..Does anyone know of one by any chance..?

Edited by Taffy66 on Wednesday 22 August 17:02

Edited by Taffy66 on Wednesday 22 August 17:03

[GameofCars]

rkwm1 said:

Boxster_racer said:

Thanks for the update !
What would you say are the points to consider when choosing between GT4 over the Spyder?

Your welcome.

If others are correct and the Spyder is going to be roofless GT4, then i guess for me it will come down to if i want open top motoring or the small amount of additional luggage space. I'll toss a coin when the time comes lol.

I think Porsche will carry over the current differences between Spyder & GT4. GT4 likely to get a higher power bump over the Spyder (as it does currently), the GT4 will get some of its suspension bits from the GT division; whereas the Spyder does not (as currently it does), the GT4 will get different tyres as its more track focused (as it currently does) etc etc. As currently i don't see the new Spyder being a roofless GT4.

[gtsralph]

Taffy66 said:

Its wholy at the IR's discretion on whether and profits derived from flipping is deemed to be taxable income or unearned income..I suspect that if an individual who's flipped more than a couple of cars for profit then the IR would classify him as a trader resulting in the profits being classed as taxable income.

Not taxable - sale of chattels although repeated pattern would risk trading but difficult to prove

[Twinfan]

GameofCars said:

I think Porsche will carry over the current differences between Spyder & GT4. GT4 likely to get a higher power bump over the Spyder (as it does currently), the GT4 will get some of its suspension bits from the GT division; whereas the Spyder does not (as currently it does), the GT4 will get different tyres as its more track focused (as it currently does) etc etc. As currently i don't see the new Spyder being a roofless GT4.

718 Caysters currently share exactly the same engines and outputs, unlike the 981 versions, so the new GT4/Spyder would match if the rumours are true. The test mules seem to have the same brakes this time, so the rumours appear to hold water at least superficially.

Porsche could go either way I guess, and we'll find out soon enough.