The 718 GT4 might be arriving sooner than you think!
Discussion
Twinfan said:
JayK12 said:
What is with that rear diffuser? Isn't that the same as the 718 GTS?
It's a similar style, but has the separate pipes not dual like 718s have. It's pretty darned chunky isn't it?! 
RSVP911 said:
Not sure if this is finished - if you look closely it looks like an additional piece taped on around the exhaust area. Guess we’ll find out soon enough. 
Yep. However, that style of diffuser has been on all the mules since they first appeared. I reckon it's pretty darned similar to how the finished item will look given that everything else appears pretty much final now (tweaked wheel design, front bumper, rear spoiler etc)Twinfan said:
RSVP911 said:
Not sure if this is finished - if you look closely it looks like an additional piece taped on around the exhaust area. Guess we’ll find out soon enough.
Yep. However, that style of diffuser has been on all the mules since they first appeared. I reckon it's pretty darned similar to how the finished item will look given that everything else appears pretty much final now (tweaked wheel design, front bumper, rear spoiler etc)Edited by RSVP911 on Thursday 27th September 22:01
ChristianW87 said:
Here's another one of the rear, with what looks like most of the tape removed:
Very Robocop 2014.Definitely, deliberately more aggressive than the 981,but also it’s a bit fussy, where the 981 just looks purposeful.
Crying out for double bubble roof as well... might as well, throw the kitchen sink at it.
To those who thought Porsche might announce the new GT4 at Rennsport Reunion this year...
https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/products/porsche-9...
It's a 77 unit special..
Obviously Porsche have too much time on their hands..
https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/products/porsche-9...
It's a 77 unit special..
Obviously Porsche have too much time on their hands..
Twinfan said:
anonymous said:
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No, they're slightly different. More straight lined/squared spokes.Seems that part of the GT4 recipe, is to channel that little bit more of the RS vibe.
I was talking to my local OPC Dealer Principal a couple of days ago in his words “we wouldn’t be at all surprised if the Spyder and GT4 come with uprated flat four turbo engines.
Another usually well informed source on a German website has said “I heard today that VW Group plan to use as little differences in tech between the various model families and brands as possible, synergy is the magic word here to keep development, certification and manufacturing cost as low as possible.
If true, this is going to be interesting because I don’t really believe they will use another 6-cyl n/a engine, WLTP certification and all. Unless they use the 4.0 l WLTP certified engine in 2019 for the GT4 as well but I kind of doubt it”
So we could all be in for a big disappointment.
Another usually well informed source on a German website has said “I heard today that VW Group plan to use as little differences in tech between the various model families and brands as possible, synergy is the magic word here to keep development, certification and manufacturing cost as low as possible.
If true, this is going to be interesting because I don’t really believe they will use another 6-cyl n/a engine, WLTP certification and all. Unless they use the 4.0 l WLTP certified engine in 2019 for the GT4 as well but I kind of doubt it”
So we could all be in for a big disappointment.
woollyjoe said:
Auto makers always maximise synergy - nothing new and Porsche have a JV with Audi too.
I'm sure the GT4 and Spyder will share the same 4lt engine.
I believe all future GT models will be turbo and use electric powered turbos.
I hope you are right - I couldn’t imagine a Porsche GT car with “that” engine.........I'm sure the GT4 and Spyder will share the same 4lt engine.
I believe all future GT models will be turbo and use electric powered turbos.
woollyjoe said:
Diesel is 15% of sales globally - which reduces emissions
GT cars about 15% of all 911 models (supposedly) - which increases emissions.
Porsche needs to offset this huge deficit under even stricter targets. So turbo'd GT cars and electrification or make a lot less NA GT cars, but still electrification.
Porsche make 200+k cars a year. 3-4k GT cars are a drop in the ocean for them regarding emissions and essentially inconsequential. GT cars about 15% of all 911 models (supposedly) - which increases emissions.
Porsche needs to offset this huge deficit under even stricter targets. So turbo'd GT cars and electrification or make a lot less NA GT cars, but still electrification.
woollyjoe said:
Except Porsche don’t release global GT production numbers and I read a quote supposedly (as said) from Porsche saying the numbers are much higher.
I also said “911”, not all cars. Less than 20% of all cars Porsche make are 911 and 718.
You said 15% of 911s. ~ 30k 911s are made per year. Anyway give or take a few more thousand, increase that by 50% per year. It doesn't matter. the last sentence in your post is exactly why what happens emissions wise on the GT cars really doesn't matter for PAG or VW as a group. They have utterly no need to offset anything wrt to what the GT cars may or may not be doing.I also said “911”, not all cars. Less than 20% of all cars Porsche make are 911 and 718.
woollyjoe said:
........ The VAG can’t pool between manufacturers it owns either.
In the case of the Volkswagen Group, for example, its luxury brands Porsche, Audi and Bugatti are grouped under the manufacturer’s pool, while Bentley elected not to and instead received a small-volume derogation for 2015. Whereas Bentley came in below target, Porsche would have incurred a penalty having missed its own substantially. Fortunately for the sports car maker, other brands in its pool such as VW’s own namesake badge compensated by overachieving.Boxster_racer said:
I’m considering switching from a 718 Spyder to a 718 GT4. Regulations at the Ring have changed, and no longer allow (at least on track days) to put down the roof.
What sort of spec would people recommend for a good ring setup?
No such cars exist and might not for another 12 months. What sort of spec would people recommend for a good ring setup?
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