Weight penalty for delete of "air con / stereo delete"

[PorscheGT4]

20kg here 20kg there 1/2 a tank of fuel a passenger all of a sudden you are 150kg lighter.

so while removing one item like AC you might not feel it, AC plus radio you might AC+Radio+ buckets seats you will

AC+radio+buckets seats+lightweight wheels+PCCB+1/2 tank of fuel+passenger+don't take roof+ lightweight battery+ manual not PDK

the cars night and day and we are then 200kg lighter !

Edited by PorscheGT4 on Thursday 30th April 12:32

[JPF40]

WCZ said:

it's 50% of the weight saving that helps makes the cayman r so special in everyones opinion here?

Placebo effect.

[abidr500]

PorscheGT4 said:

20kg here 20kg there 1/2 a tank of fuel a passenger all of a sudden you are 150kg lighter.

so while removing one item like AC you might not feel it, AC plus radio you might AC+Radio+ buckets seats you will

AC+radio+buckets seats+lightweight wheels+PCCB+1/2 tank of fuel+passenger+don't take roof+ lightweight battery+ manual not PDK

the cars night and day and we are then 200kg lighter !

Edited by PorscheGT4 on Thursday 30th April 12:32

I think you're being a little conservative.
if you don't take a fat passenger then your at least 250kg to the good.

We're back to the 'will a fat bird fit in my Porsche' thread

[JPF40]

PorscheGT4 said:

20kg here 20kg there 1/2 a tank of fuel a passenger all of a sudden you are 150kg lighter.

so while removing one item like AC you might not feel it, AC plus radio you might AC+Radio+ buckets seats you will

AC+radio+buckets seats+lightweight wheels+PCCB+1/2 tank of fuel+passenger+don't take roof+ lightweight battery+ manual not PDK

the cars night and day and we are then 200kg lighter !

Edited by PorscheGT4 on Thursday 30th April 12:32

200kgs? Without a doubt but we're talking about air con/stereo.

I'm adding air con and PCM etc, got lightweight seats, PCCB's etc.

Anyone can make a car heavier, the debate is simple air con/nice sounds vs 20kgs??

Its nothing!

And you forget this new Spyder will more than likely be one of a few cars. For me its a nice addition. If I want to go really fast I just buy a really fast car.

[PorscheGT4]

ac plus radio is prob more like 40kg though.

like wise I have speced every thing to my GT4 as I'll use it as a daily.

I think My spyder might be faster than the GT4 lol

[WCZ]

JPF40 said:

Placebo effect.

maybe so but it makes more of a difference than the £x,000's of interior carbon fiber that people spec on their cars which may amount to a couple of hundred grams of weight saved!

[SFO]

PorscheGT4 said:

ac plus radio is prob more like 40kg though.

utter bks

[itsybitsy]

SFO said:

PorscheGT4 said:

ac plus radio is prob more like 40kg though.

utter bks

A/C is stated as saving15 kg and radio 5 kg in spyder/R brochure.

[thegoose]

For anyone saying aircon is of no benefit do consider why it's mandatory for some Porsche race cars (e.g. 997 Cup & RSR I think) - as well as car performance, driver performance is important too.

[JPF40]

WCZ said:

maybe so but it makes more of a difference than the £x,000's of interior carbon fiber that people spec on their cars which may amount to a couple of hundred grams of weight saved!

I'm going full carbon because it looks nice with the seats, it might actually weigh more since its just a cosmetic feature/trim.

[PorscheGT4]

thegoose said:

For anyone saying aircon is of no benefit do consider why it's mandatory for some Porsche race cars (e.g. 997 Cup & RSR I think) - as well as car performance, driver performance is important too.

after having an MGB an Elise and my Spyder, I have never once thought, I need AC in these cars !

you have to look at the car and then I think people are crazy mad to spec it in a Spyder or an Elise.

[lsb]

JPF40 said:

I'm going full carbon because it looks nice with the seats, it might actually weigh more since its just a cosmetic feature/trim.

I normally do not like carbon interior parts but after seeing the GT4 press launch cars in Portugal the carbon dash strips and centre console surround along with the carbon backed lwb's really helped lift the interior imho. It certainly helped make the cabin look like a nice place to sit.

[PorscheGT4]

looks horid,tacky and cheap in real life, I have not speced Carbon.

some cars I love Carbon, but it looks too fake In a Porker imo.

[lsb]

PorscheGT4 said:

after having an MGB an Elise and my Spyder, I have never once thought, I need AC in these cars !

you have to look at the car and then I think people are crazy mad to spec it in a Spyder or an Elise.

I have been at Spa with the air temperature around 34 degrees. Everyone in fixed tops seemed fairly happy to have air conditioning that day.

[PorscheGT4]

lsb said:

I have been at Spa with the air temperature around 34 degrees. Everyone in fixed tops seemed fairly happy to have air conditioning that day.

as you will note none of the cars listed have fixed tops :-)

[lsb]

PorscheGT4 said:

looks horid,tacky and cheap in real life, I have not speced Carbon.

some cars I love Carbon, but it looks too fake In a Porker imo.

Well when I sat in one in Portugal I must have been hallucinating :-)

[PorscheGT4]

lsb said:

Well when I sat in one in Portugal I must have been hallucinating :-)

that's why there are options, we all like what we like and Porsche will give options to take your money if you like what they offer.

I don't like it, you do, it's a non issue.

[lsb]

PorscheGT4 said:

that's why there are options, we all like what we like and Porsche will give options to take your money if you like what they offer.

I don't like it, you do, it's a non issue.

Why do you feel the need feel to comment on it then ? I neither asked for or care for your opinion.

When you call it tacky etc, etc it can become an issue to some as, I am sure you are quite aware of. If you want to be confrontational that is your prerogative but most people say nothing over a trivial issue of taste when they are in disagreement.

[g7jhp]

PorscheGT4 said:

lsb said:

I have been at Spa with the air temperature around 34 degrees. Everyone in fixed tops seemed fairly happy to have air conditioning that day.

as you will note none of the cars listed have fixed tops :-)

It's fine using a soft top when you're moving, but being stationary stuck in traffic is when A/C is a benefit.

If A/C and stereo is a free I'd spec both. Understand others would choose to go lightweight poverty spec.

[PorscheGT4]

g7jhp said:

It's fine using a soft top when you're moving, but being stationary stuck in traffic is when A/C is a benefit.

If A/C and stereo is a free I'd spec both. Understand others would choose to go lightweight poverty spec.

why is it poverty spec when it is a no cost option most of the time, poverty spec is not having PCCB :-)!