987 Cayman - Tell me to man up or get out ....
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The eBay advert says “Chrono Pack (Sports mode with increased BHP, PASM Suspension, Lap timer)”.
I have a Gen 2 Cayman and as far as I know the Sports Chrono does not give increased BHP or PASM, maybe someone who knows about Gen 1 cars can comment on this?
Have you seen the service book, does it contain a list of option codes inside the cover as I believe there are resources on the internet to decode these.
On my car option 640 is Sport chrono plus and 475 is PASM.
I have a Gen 2 Cayman and as far as I know the Sports Chrono does not give increased BHP or PASM, maybe someone who knows about Gen 1 cars can comment on this?
Have you seen the service book, does it contain a list of option codes inside the cover as I believe there are resources on the internet to decode these.
On my car option 640 is Sport chrono plus and 475 is PASM.
DM,
I thought the same. Sport Chrono doesn't usually mean more power. However from what I've read it does give a sharper throttle response and also means there is a hard rev limiter rather than a soft one, and this can mean that the engine is still producing power at higher revs when the (normal) soft limiter is starting to back off, meaning it can feel faster.
Haven't yet seen the options list, will do tomorrow.
I thought the same. Sport Chrono doesn't usually mean more power. However from what I've read it does give a sharper throttle response and also means there is a hard rev limiter rather than a soft one, and this can mean that the engine is still producing power at higher revs when the (normal) soft limiter is starting to back off, meaning it can feel faster.
Haven't yet seen the options list, will do tomorrow.
The red interior looks awful so that, and the mileage, might explain the difficulties in selling. 
I bought essentially the same car (but with 75k miles) for a very similar price a year ago, and had a budget for repairs on top of that. Over the last year mine has had steering arm joints, radiator pipes, a new window mechanism, a new battery, and air con radiators - total cost around £2.8k. The clutch on mine will probably need replaced this year, which is around £600?
That car may need more, or less, it's a bit of a gamble, really. If you can check receipts and MOT certificates that seems like it would be a good way to check most things, but you'd need an hour.
Looking underneath will give you a rough idea of whether any pipes/boots/seals need replaced.
Aircon rads can be seen through the "grilles" below the front bumper at either side, and you should look for dark spots on those that look like oil leaks. Check it works, too.
Great car - I love it. Performance on the 2.7 is not breathtaking, but it good. Meteor grey is better than Arctic silver I would say, but definitely not the most exciting of colours (mine is meteor grey).
I bought essentially the same car (but with 75k miles) for a very similar price a year ago, and had a budget for repairs on top of that. Over the last year mine has had steering arm joints, radiator pipes, a new window mechanism, a new battery, and air con radiators - total cost around £2.8k. The clutch on mine will probably need replaced this year, which is around £600?
That car may need more, or less, it's a bit of a gamble, really. If you can check receipts and MOT certificates that seems like it would be a good way to check most things, but you'd need an hour.
Looking underneath will give you a rough idea of whether any pipes/boots/seals need replaced.
Aircon rads can be seen through the "grilles" below the front bumper at either side, and you should look for dark spots on those that look like oil leaks. Check it works, too.
Great car - I love it. Performance on the 2.7 is not breathtaking, but it good. Meteor grey is better than Arctic silver I would say, but definitely not the most exciting of colours (mine is meteor grey).
As an entry into Porsche ownership don't think you can really go wrong with a 2.7 987,great all round little sports car,buy a good one and it will give many hours of fun motoring,I've often thought about replacing mine but each time knew I'd regret it,there's times I've wanted a bit more power but a recent trip out in a friends 997.2 turbo manual tuned by Techart highlighted the fact for me that less is often more..
..jeez that car was fooking fast though!
..jeez that car was fooking fast though!
BertBert said:
What was the result of the ppi?
Bert
Thanks for asking. I've fairly literally just walked into the house but thanks for chasing me up. Bert
PPI said:
1. N/S Headlight glass has slight staining
2. O/S rear wheel has corrosion around valve area
3. Paint work off both front lower wing sections (chipped from road gravel)
4. Slight leak of coolant from N/S hose area
5. All tyres not N-rated. Rears old
6. Small oil leak front rear main/IMS area
7. O/S and N/S outer CV bot mounting loose/leaking
8. Incorrect clamps on rear exhaust box, leaking slightly
9. Rear gear cable ferrule rusty
10. Anti Freeze laying in under tray possible over filled
11. Small amount of debris build up in front radiators
12. Anti freeze leak front hose above engine O/S
13. Dashboard display delaminating
14. Rust markings around rear level sensor arm
15. Air con inoperative, possibly N/S radiator
What did I do? Haggled, and then put a deposit down! We came to a price that was lower than the seller wanted and higher than I wanted which means it's probably about right. Collection next week .... 2. O/S rear wheel has corrosion around valve area
3. Paint work off both front lower wing sections (chipped from road gravel)
4. Slight leak of coolant from N/S hose area
5. All tyres not N-rated. Rears old
6. Small oil leak front rear main/IMS area
7. O/S and N/S outer CV bot mounting loose/leaking
8. Incorrect clamps on rear exhaust box, leaking slightly
9. Rear gear cable ferrule rusty
10. Anti Freeze laying in under tray possible over filled
11. Small amount of debris build up in front radiators
12. Anti freeze leak front hose above engine O/S
13. Dashboard display delaminating
14. Rust markings around rear level sensor arm
15. Air con inoperative, possibly N/S radiator
And here's something to make you fall off your seats laughing ... I didn't even get to drive it! PPI guy (Jez) drove it but the seller declined to allow me the wheel as I didn't have fully comp insurance; insurance on my car gives me TP cover on other vehicles but not fully comp. So I've just put a chunky deposit down to purchase a car that I have yet to drive. Great to be me, huh?
Excellent! It terms of a great car to drive, you can't go wrong with a 987.
Suggestion: get the critical items on that list sorted sooner rather than later. I did something similar with my 987 - bought it with good knowledge of what needed doing, got the urgent jobs done within the first few weeks, less urgent jobs slightly later, and now have an on-going preventative maintenance strategy to try to fix things before they break.
Of course, sooner of later there's a chance that something I didn't have in the preventative maintenance plan will fail.......
Suggestion: get the critical items on that list sorted sooner rather than later. I did something similar with my 987 - bought it with good knowledge of what needed doing, got the urgent jobs done within the first few weeks, less urgent jobs slightly later, and now have an on-going preventative maintenance strategy to try to fix things before they break.
Of course, sooner of later there's a chance that something I didn't have in the preventative maintenance plan will fail.......
Thanks. Yes, that's my plan. The big-and-very-urgent one on that list is the cross-over radiator pipe at the front of the car. Jez (mechanic) showed me the problem and it's not got much longer left. New parts called for, and soon.
OK, so a practical question; where can I find service manuals, parts diagrams and so on for a 987 Cayman? There is a wealth of stuff available for the 944 and other older Porsche models but what about the Cayman? Or do I simply dive on in with a socket set and keep my fingers crossed?
OK, so a practical question; where can I find service manuals, parts diagrams and so on for a 987 Cayman? There is a wealth of stuff available for the 944 and other older Porsche models but what about the Cayman? Or do I simply dive on in with a socket set and keep my fingers crossed?
Very similar situation to the one I was in 18 months ago, even down to having a ppi and not driving the car myself. 07 plate, 98k miles, needed suspension work and rads. I paid £9.6k.
Yes you will have to spend a few quid but you'll have a great car.
Mine's on 119k miles and used daily, I'll easily hit 125k by the end of the year.
Yes you will have to spend a few quid but you'll have a great car.
Mine's on 119k miles and used daily, I'll easily hit 125k by the end of the year.
Guys,
Thanks for the replies. Sadly I can't say I am excited about the new car; I drove my old 944 to the viewing and back and I still really love the old girl. The hardest part of this process is deciding what to do with her; sell or or lay her up somewhere for a few years. I'm inclining to the latter. Getting excited about the Cayman is therefore taking a back seat. Maybe that will change when I actually own it. I hope it does.
Thanks again.
Thanks for the replies. Sadly I can't say I am excited about the new car; I drove my old 944 to the viewing and back and I still really love the old girl. The hardest part of this process is deciding what to do with her; sell or or lay her up somewhere for a few years. I'm inclining to the latter. Getting excited about the Cayman is therefore taking a back seat. Maybe that will change when I actually own it. I hope it does.
DRH986 said:
Congratulations!
If you PM me, I have some info I can send you. I did a detailed write up of the coolant pipes replacement.
Thanks - that would be really helpful. I'll PM you pronto. If you PM me, I have some info I can send you. I did a detailed write up of the coolant pipes replacement.
Thanks again.
2Btoo said:
Guys,
Thanks for the replies. Sadly I can't say I am excited about the new car; I drove my old 944 to the viewing and back and I still really love the old girl. The hardest part of this process is deciding what to do with her; sell or or lay her up somewhere for a few years. I'm inclining to the latter. Getting excited about the Cayman is therefore taking a back seat. Maybe that will change when I actually own it. I hope it does.
That I can relate to! I had 2 944s as daily drives - first a 2.7 Lux, then a turbo 250 with a few choice modifications that gave around 300bhp. The turbo was 17 years old when I sold it, and coming up to 200k miles. I covered a lot of faultless miles in those cars, and still rate them amongst the best 'daily drive' cars I've ever had. Thanks for the replies. Sadly I can't say I am excited about the new car; I drove my old 944 to the viewing and back and I still really love the old girl. The hardest part of this process is deciding what to do with her; sell or or lay her up somewhere for a few years. I'm inclining to the latter. Getting excited about the Cayman is therefore taking a back seat. Maybe that will change when I actually own it. I hope it does.
Welcome 2Btoo to the owner of a 987 gen1.
I have been a Cayman S gen 1 owner now for 5yrs and since last year it had a full service history, but now do maintenance myself.
I replaced my 2 coolant pipes and hoses at the beginning of the year. I done it with the advice from SP Autobahn in Stirling (Porsche Specialist) and what I read on forums, it was done without lowering the subframe. The job took me 4 hours from start to finish.
Last year one of my driveshafts was leaking grease and I thought it was coming from the cv boot, but actually it was coming out the metal collar that is between the boot and cv joint. I sent the driveshaft away for refurb to a place in Newcastle at a cost of £150which included postage.
New from a Porsche was approx £740. I suspect this will be the same area where your driveshaft will be leaking grease from!
This year also replaced the both track rod ends and inner steering joints plus gaiters as one of the steering joints had very slight play. Decided to replace all parts as not too much of a cost and because of needing tracking done after new steering parts fitted.
The car also had started to missfire on bank 4, 5, 6, when I looked at the coils the insulation started to break up so I replaced all 6. On investigations of misfire I swapped the variocam solenoid from left bank to right, which changed misfire to bank 1,2,3, therefore bought new one.
Doing the maintenance myself has reduced the repair bill considerably. Going by your posts I notice you shall be doing repairs yourself also.
After you go through your list and tick everything off, hopefully you will enjoy having and driving the Cayman, as my one puts a smile on my face every time I am out in it!
I have been a Cayman S gen 1 owner now for 5yrs and since last year it had a full service history, but now do maintenance myself.
I replaced my 2 coolant pipes and hoses at the beginning of the year. I done it with the advice from SP Autobahn in Stirling (Porsche Specialist) and what I read on forums, it was done without lowering the subframe. The job took me 4 hours from start to finish.
Last year one of my driveshafts was leaking grease and I thought it was coming from the cv boot, but actually it was coming out the metal collar that is between the boot and cv joint. I sent the driveshaft away for refurb to a place in Newcastle at a cost of £150which included postage.
New from a Porsche was approx £740. I suspect this will be the same area where your driveshaft will be leaking grease from!
This year also replaced the both track rod ends and inner steering joints plus gaiters as one of the steering joints had very slight play. Decided to replace all parts as not too much of a cost and because of needing tracking done after new steering parts fitted.
The car also had started to missfire on bank 4, 5, 6, when I looked at the coils the insulation started to break up so I replaced all 6. On investigations of misfire I swapped the variocam solenoid from left bank to right, which changed misfire to bank 1,2,3, therefore bought new one.
Doing the maintenance myself has reduced the repair bill considerably. Going by your posts I notice you shall be doing repairs yourself also.
After you go through your list and tick everything off, hopefully you will enjoy having and driving the Cayman, as my one puts a smile on my face every time I am out in it!
2Btoo said:
And here's something to make you fall off your seats laughing ... I didn't even get to drive it! PPI guy (Jez) drove it but the seller declined to allow me the wheel as I didn't have fully comp insurance; insurance on my car gives me TP cover on other vehicles but not fully comp. So I've just put a chunky deposit down to purchase a car that I have yet to drive. Great to be me, huh?
I was in the same boat, TP only for others’ cars. When I first went to view my current Cayman from a private seller I used the Cuvva app to get an hour or so of fully comp cover. It’s not good value for the long term but for 2 hours it was about £15. Good luck with the purchase.
2Btoo said:
Further to the wheels comment .... what do these look like on a 987.1 Cayman?
I've googled but can't find any pictures of them on a Cayman. They are 17inch and listed as being quite light (8.3 and 9.0kg respectively.)
Those are the worst OEM 987 wheels in my opinion.I've googled but can't find any pictures of them on a Cayman. They are 17inch and listed as being quite light (8.3 and 9.0kg respectively.)
They look too small and the design is not flattering at all.
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