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frayz said:
ClioTrophy55 said:
freedman said:
BubblesNW said:
freedman said:
Anyone thinking of selling?
Sold my 964 this week, so now looking for its replacement
Kevin would probably let you have his pdk R but personally I would suggest the manual is more involving if a little slower.Sold my 964 this week, so now looking for its replacement
I think PDK would suit, for a change, at least
And what I've concluded is as follows:
Buckets are the only truly essential feature - they're a fundamental part of the R "concept" for me. Both of mine have them.
The brakes on the R are its weak link - PCCBs go a good way to addressing this, and they're actually pretty robust. The GT3 master cylinder solution for steels doesn't provide the confidence that PCCBs do on a spirited B road drive, which is where most of the purposeful driving that you bought an R for takes place.
Everything else is personal taste or according to the type of driving that you do or what the car needs to be for you to love it.
PSE is a nice toy for a better soundtrack for attention-grabbing but the standard exhaust is loud enough.
The Nav is dated now, but the radio option even more so. The Nav looks the least dated of the two.
The alcantara steering wheel feels great to the touch on short runs, and in the cold, but gripping it for long periods on longer/spirited drives becomes uncomfortable.
I don't notice the difference between Xenons and standard, but then I drive in daylight the vast majority of time - I'll use a more normal car for night driving, as I'll probably be driving more steadily and no-one will admire the car in the dark anyway.
If you can appreciate a difference between BOSE and standard over the noise of the car then you're probably driving too slowly.
I've never used the cup-holders.
If you're feeling good then driving a crazy green coloured car makes you feel even better. If you're feeling miserable then sometimes it cheers you up, and sometimes you just need to be in a normal coloured car to blend in.
Manual is more fun but also demands more involvement. Some of my commute is in queuing traffic, and some of this is on slopes and so PDK is just easier. Often I can squeeze in a quick blast only when I'm tired or pre-occupied with work, in which case PDK is easier. If I'm feeling on top of the world then manual is my choice. For track it is PDK, as I struggle to keep the right line, change gear and control the throttle well simultaneously - 3 things is too many at once! The PDK isn't as good as more recent versions (I have a 991.2 GTS Cabriolet PDK as comparison) and can apply more deceleration force than you'd ideally like when you lift off the accelerator. If you've ever driven a Tesla then you'll know what I mean.
Apologies for a bit of a ramble but hopefully answers the question (sort of!).
ClioTrophy55 said:
The 2 R's I have are very different - one is manual, one PDK, one has ceramics, one steels, one has a roll cage, one not, one has PSE, one not, one has BOSE, one not, one has Xenons, one not, one has alcantara, one leather, one has Nav, one not, one has an "in your face" colour, one not, one with cup-holders, one not - you get the idea. So I'm always interested in posts in which someone states that a particular feature is essential, as I'm often able to directly compare R's with and without that feature.
And what I've concluded is as follows:
Buckets are the only truly essential feature - they're a fundamental part of the R "concept" for me. Both of mine have them.
The brakes on the R are its weak link - PCCBs go a good way to addressing this, and they're actually pretty robust. The GT3 master cylinder solution for steels doesn't provide the confidence that PCCBs do on a spirited B road drive, which is where most of the purposeful driving that you bought an R for takes place.
Everything else is personal taste or according to the type of driving that you do or what the car needs to be for you to love it.
PSE is a nice toy for a better soundtrack for attention-grabbing but the standard exhaust is loud enough.
The Nav is dated now, but the radio option even more so. The Nav looks the least dated of the two.
The alcantara steering wheel feels great to the touch on short runs, and in the cold, but gripping it for long periods on longer/spirited drives becomes uncomfortable.
I don't notice the difference between Xenons and standard, but then I drive in daylight the vast majority of time - I'll use a more normal car for night driving, as I'll probably be driving more steadily and no-one will admire the car in the dark anyway.
If you can appreciate a difference between BOSE and standard over the noise of the car then you're probably driving too slowly.
I've never used the cup-holders.
If you're feeling good then driving a crazy green coloured car makes you feel even better. If you're feeling miserable then sometimes it cheers you up, and sometimes you just need to be in a normal coloured car to blend in.
Manual is more fun but also demands more involvement. Some of my commute is in queuing traffic, and some of this is on slopes and so PDK is just easier. Often I can squeeze in a quick blast only when I'm tired or pre-occupied with work, in which case PDK is easier. If I'm feeling on top of the world then manual is my choice. For track it is PDK, as I struggle to keep the right line, change gear and control the throttle well simultaneously - 3 things is too many at once! The PDK isn't as good as more recent versions (I have a 991.2 GTS Cabriolet PDK as comparison) and can apply more deceleration force than you'd ideally like when you lift off the accelerator. If you've ever driven a Tesla then you'll know what I mean.
Apologies for a bit of a ramble but hopefully answers the question (sort of!).
Thanks for taking the time to respond with your thoughts. To be honest, pretty much all yove said makes perfect sense and a Cayman R spec is really about what "you" want from a car rather than the supposed "Internet essential" spec.And what I've concluded is as follows:
Buckets are the only truly essential feature - they're a fundamental part of the R "concept" for me. Both of mine have them.
The brakes on the R are its weak link - PCCBs go a good way to addressing this, and they're actually pretty robust. The GT3 master cylinder solution for steels doesn't provide the confidence that PCCBs do on a spirited B road drive, which is where most of the purposeful driving that you bought an R for takes place.
Everything else is personal taste or according to the type of driving that you do or what the car needs to be for you to love it.
PSE is a nice toy for a better soundtrack for attention-grabbing but the standard exhaust is loud enough.
The Nav is dated now, but the radio option even more so. The Nav looks the least dated of the two.
The alcantara steering wheel feels great to the touch on short runs, and in the cold, but gripping it for long periods on longer/spirited drives becomes uncomfortable.
I don't notice the difference between Xenons and standard, but then I drive in daylight the vast majority of time - I'll use a more normal car for night driving, as I'll probably be driving more steadily and no-one will admire the car in the dark anyway.
If you can appreciate a difference between BOSE and standard over the noise of the car then you're probably driving too slowly.
I've never used the cup-holders.
If you're feeling good then driving a crazy green coloured car makes you feel even better. If you're feeling miserable then sometimes it cheers you up, and sometimes you just need to be in a normal coloured car to blend in.
Manual is more fun but also demands more involvement. Some of my commute is in queuing traffic, and some of this is on slopes and so PDK is just easier. Often I can squeeze in a quick blast only when I'm tired or pre-occupied with work, in which case PDK is easier. If I'm feeling on top of the world then manual is my choice. For track it is PDK, as I struggle to keep the right line, change gear and control the throttle well simultaneously - 3 things is too many at once! The PDK isn't as good as more recent versions (I have a 991.2 GTS Cabriolet PDK as comparison) and can apply more deceleration force than you'd ideally like when you lift off the accelerator. If you've ever driven a Tesla then you'll know what I mean.
Apologies for a bit of a ramble but hopefully answers the question (sort of!).
ClioTrophy55 said:
The 2 R's I have are very different - one is manual, one PDK, one has ceramics, one steels, one has a roll cage, one not, one has PSE, one not, one has BOSE, one not, one has Xenons, one not, one has alcantara, one leather, one has Nav, one not, one has an "in your face" colour, one not, one with cup-holders, one not - you get the idea. So I'm always interested in posts in which someone states that a particular feature is essential, as I'm often able to directly compare R's with and without that feature.
And what I've concluded is as follows:
Buckets are the only truly essential feature - they're a fundamental part of the R "concept" for me. Both of mine have them.
The brakes on the R are its weak link - PCCBs go a good way to addressing this, and they're actually pretty robust. The GT3 master cylinder solution for steels doesn't provide the confidence that PCCBs do on a spirited B road drive, which is where most of the purposeful driving that you bought an R for takes place.
Everything else is personal taste or according to the type of driving that you do or what the car needs to be for you to love it.
PSE is a nice toy for a better soundtrack for attention-grabbing but the standard exhaust is loud enough.
The Nav is dated now, but the radio option even more so. The Nav looks the least dated of the two.
The alcantara steering wheel feels great to the touch on short runs, and in the cold, but gripping it for long periods on longer/spirited drives becomes uncomfortable.
I don't notice the difference between Xenons and standard, but then I drive in daylight the vast majority of time - I'll use a more normal car for night driving, as I'll probably be driving more steadily and no-one will admire the car in the dark anyway.
If you can appreciate a difference between BOSE and standard over the noise of the car then you're probably driving too slowly.
I've never used the cup-holders.
If you're feeling good then driving a crazy green coloured car makes you feel even better. If you're feeling miserable then sometimes it cheers you up, and sometimes you just need to be in a normal coloured car to blend in.
Manual is more fun but also demands more involvement. Some of my commute is in queuing traffic, and some of this is on slopes and so PDK is just easier. Often I can squeeze in a quick blast only when I'm tired or pre-occupied with work, in which case PDK is easier. If I'm feeling on top of the world then manual is my choice. For track it is PDK, as I struggle to keep the right line, change gear and control the throttle well simultaneously - 3 things is too many at once! The PDK isn't as good as more recent versions (I have a 991.2 GTS Cabriolet PDK as comparison) and can apply more deceleration force than you'd ideally like when you lift off the accelerator. If you've ever driven a Tesla then you'll know what I mean.
Apologies for a bit of a ramble but hopefully answers the question (sort of!).
I had 6 CRs in one go, I was after different spec and colours....And what I've concluded is as follows:
Buckets are the only truly essential feature - they're a fundamental part of the R "concept" for me. Both of mine have them.
The brakes on the R are its weak link - PCCBs go a good way to addressing this, and they're actually pretty robust. The GT3 master cylinder solution for steels doesn't provide the confidence that PCCBs do on a spirited B road drive, which is where most of the purposeful driving that you bought an R for takes place.
Everything else is personal taste or according to the type of driving that you do or what the car needs to be for you to love it.
PSE is a nice toy for a better soundtrack for attention-grabbing but the standard exhaust is loud enough.
The Nav is dated now, but the radio option even more so. The Nav looks the least dated of the two.
The alcantara steering wheel feels great to the touch on short runs, and in the cold, but gripping it for long periods on longer/spirited drives becomes uncomfortable.
I don't notice the difference between Xenons and standard, but then I drive in daylight the vast majority of time - I'll use a more normal car for night driving, as I'll probably be driving more steadily and no-one will admire the car in the dark anyway.
If you can appreciate a difference between BOSE and standard over the noise of the car then you're probably driving too slowly.
I've never used the cup-holders.
If you're feeling good then driving a crazy green coloured car makes you feel even better. If you're feeling miserable then sometimes it cheers you up, and sometimes you just need to be in a normal coloured car to blend in.
Manual is more fun but also demands more involvement. Some of my commute is in queuing traffic, and some of this is on slopes and so PDK is just easier. Often I can squeeze in a quick blast only when I'm tired or pre-occupied with work, in which case PDK is easier. If I'm feeling on top of the world then manual is my choice. For track it is PDK, as I struggle to keep the right line, change gear and control the throttle well simultaneously - 3 things is too many at once! The PDK isn't as good as more recent versions (I have a 991.2 GTS Cabriolet PDK as comparison) and can apply more deceleration force than you'd ideally like when you lift off the accelerator. If you've ever driven a Tesla then you'll know what I mean.
Apologies for a bit of a ramble but hopefully answers the question (sort of!).
ClioTrophy55 said:
I've tackled the manual/PDK dilemma by having one of each. Here's my 2 R's turning up at the PCGB RAC Club Drive-In last weekend.
its a good morning isnt it ? me and Frayz went last year in our 2 and really enjoyed it, spent the rest of the day at Brooklands after it which was a really good day out as well, shame we couldnt have done 4 this year, PCGB used our cars as the poster shot after last year 
I see Bolton now have a second R advertised at a rather more respectable 42K
Ad on Autotrader is even worse than the 52k car, with the only option being to call them about it to find out anything at all
So I did.
Vehicle data
Displacement: 3,400 cm³ Exterior colour: Carrara White
Power output: 228 kW / 310 HP Interior colour: Black standard interior with sports seats
Drivetrain: Rear-wheel drive Mileage: 33,881 mi
Transmission: Manual First reg.: Apr 23, 2012
VIN: WP0ZZZ98ZCS791594 Price: £ 42,101
Fuel: Petrol
Equipment
• 6 speed manual transmission
• 64-l-Fuel Tank
• Automatic air conditioning
• Black Wheels painted
• Cup holder
• Deletion of model designation
• Floor mats
• ParkAssist (rear)
Porsche Communication Management (PCM) including
navigation module
•
• Rear wiper
• Sound Package Plus incl. CD storage box
• Sport Chrono Package Plus
• Sport shifter
• Sports exhaust system
• Sports seats
• Telephone module for PCM
• Universal audio interface
Ad on Autotrader is even worse than the 52k car, with the only option being to call them about it to find out anything at all
So I did.
Vehicle data
Displacement: 3,400 cm³ Exterior colour: Carrara White
Power output: 228 kW / 310 HP Interior colour: Black standard interior with sports seats
Drivetrain: Rear-wheel drive Mileage: 33,881 mi
Transmission: Manual First reg.: Apr 23, 2012
VIN: WP0ZZZ98ZCS791594 Price: £ 42,101
Fuel: Petrol
Equipment
• 6 speed manual transmission
• 64-l-Fuel Tank
• Automatic air conditioning
• Black Wheels painted
• Cup holder
• Deletion of model designation
• Floor mats
• ParkAssist (rear)
Porsche Communication Management (PCM) including
navigation module
•
• Rear wiper
• Sound Package Plus incl. CD storage box
• Sport Chrono Package Plus
• Sport shifter
• Sports exhaust system
• Sports seats
• Telephone module for PCM
• Universal audio interface
celticstevie said:
freedman said:
I see Bolton now have a second R advertised at a rather more respectable 42K
Ad on Autotrader is even worse than the 52k car, with the only option being to call them about it to find out anything at all
So I did.
Vehicle data
Displacement: 3,400 cm³ Exterior colour: Carrara White
Power output: 228 kW / 310 HP Interior colour: Black standard interior with sports seats
Drivetrain: Rear-wheel drive Mileage: 33,881 mi
Transmission: Manual First reg.: Apr 23, 2012
VIN: WP0ZZZ98ZCS791594 Price: £ 42,101
Fuel: Petrol
Equipment
• 6 speed manual transmission
• 64-l-Fuel Tank
• Automatic air conditioning
• Black Wheels painted
• Cup holder
• Deletion of model designation
• Floor mats
• ParkAssist (rear)
Porsche Communication Management (PCM) including
navigation module
•
• Rear wiper
• Sound Package Plus incl. CD storage box
• Sport Chrono Package Plus
• Sport shifter
• Sports exhaust system
• Sports seats
• Telephone module for PCM
• Universal audio interface
That’s my old car. Ad on Autotrader is even worse than the 52k car, with the only option being to call them about it to find out anything at all
So I did.
Vehicle data
Displacement: 3,400 cm³ Exterior colour: Carrara White
Power output: 228 kW / 310 HP Interior colour: Black standard interior with sports seats
Drivetrain: Rear-wheel drive Mileage: 33,881 mi
Transmission: Manual First reg.: Apr 23, 2012
VIN: WP0ZZZ98ZCS791594 Price: £ 42,101
Fuel: Petrol
Equipment
• 6 speed manual transmission
• 64-l-Fuel Tank
• Automatic air conditioning
• Black Wheels painted
• Cup holder
• Deletion of model designation
• Floor mats
• ParkAssist (rear)
Porsche Communication Management (PCM) including
navigation module
•
• Rear wiper
• Sound Package Plus incl. CD storage box
• Sport Chrono Package Plus
• Sport shifter
• Sports exhaust system
• Sports seats
• Telephone module for PCM
• Universal audio interface
I traded it last week for a Ferrari 430. I couldn’t shift it privately despite having 12 months warranty. The only thing missing was the buckets, I had it up for sale at £37.5k, traded to Ferrari willmslow. Hard to sell without buckets. I advertised it from January and could not get it away.
Lots of dealers with low ball offers and wanting to take on SOR. Some private interest.
Car had warranty until April 2020 so chance they will stick 2 years on top of that.
I bought the car in sept 2017 and it came with 2.5 years warranty. I had it serviced in sept 17 (oil change) and then again in apr 18 at OPC Glasgow. It had some paint done at the opc approved shop in April 18 to fix a bit of rash on the front arches, ppf applied. It had front nose cone painted in September 17 by aberdeen.
It had good service history April 14&16 and sept17 at OPC Aberdeen followed by April 18 at glasgow. I’ve never liked 2 year services even for limited mileage so I had them do the oil pre me buying and then again in April 17.
It was an awesome car also has g techniq ceramic coat. I had an enjoyable 5000 miles in it.
Cosmetically and mechanically in great condition coachwork was swirl free as only I washed it - I bet they have swirled
it
Edited by celticstevie on Friday 19th April 09:21
I took the R out for a blast this afternoon for nothing more than s
ts and giggles and covered over 100 miles in it...
Such a great car, lightweight.which you feel straight away, gearing that that seems to to make sense on UK country roads and a deftness to the steering that just isn't there on my 996 911.
My car has Goodyear Eagle F1 tyres on it which seem OK but are MPS4S a better option and are they available in Cayman R sizes?
ts and giggles and covered over 100 miles in it...Such a great car, lightweight.which you feel straight away, gearing that that seems to to make sense on UK country roads and a deftness to the steering that just isn't there on my 996 911.
My car has Goodyear Eagle F1 tyres on it which seem OK but are MPS4S a better option and are they available in Cayman R sizes?
Budflicker said:
My car has Goodyear Eagle F1 tyres on it which seem OK but are MPS4S a better option and are they available in Cayman R sizes?
Depends if you need N rated. If so then no, if not then yes. Although the sizes for the rear can be hard to get hold of for some reason. I put Super Sports on mine after Michelin could not get me any PS4S last year. They are a brilliant tyre, but not as good as the 4S in the wet. My R has been out a fair bit these last few sunny days. 300 or so miles since Friday. It's just such a nice thing to drive. And the noise is superb.
Currently have Cup2s on mine but tempted to try PS4S purely due to cost. However im reluctant to relinquish the amazing steering feel and grip provided by Cup2s.
Budflicker, personally i find GY EagleF1s pretty gooey on the sidewalls. So if you like the way your car drives on those, MPS4Ss will be a gamechanger IMO.
Budflicker, personally i find GY EagleF1s pretty gooey on the sidewalls. So if you like the way your car drives on those, MPS4Ss will be a gamechanger IMO.
frayz said:
Currently have Cup2s on mine but tempted to try PS4S purely due to cost. However im reluctant to relinquish the amazing steering feel and grip provided by Cup2s.
Budflicker, personally i find GY EagleF1s pretty gooey on the sidewalls. So if you like the way your car drives on those, MPS4Ss will be a gamechanger IMO.
Having Cup2s put on mine this SaturdayBudflicker, personally i find GY EagleF1s pretty gooey on the sidewalls. So if you like the way your car drives on those, MPS4Ss will be a gamechanger IMO.
ClioTrophy55 said:
frayz said:
Currently have Cup2s on mine but tempted to try PS4S purely due to cost. However im reluctant to relinquish the amazing steering feel and grip provided by Cup2s.
Budflicker, personally i find GY EagleF1s pretty gooey on the sidewalls. So if you like the way your car drives on those, MPS4Ss will be a gamechanger IMO.
Having Cup2s put on mine this SaturdayBudflicker, personally i find GY EagleF1s pretty gooey on the sidewalls. So if you like the way your car drives on those, MPS4Ss will be a gamechanger IMO.
If this has buckets and decent service history, it could be a great buy...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2019...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2019...
Jim1556 said:
If this has buckets and decent service history, it could be a great buy...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2019...
I would guess at no buckets as they are not mentioned there or on their websitehttp://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2019...
Jim1556 said:
If this has buckets and decent service history, it could be a great buy...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2019...
Any previous owner knowledge Gents ?http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2019...
Rsx Boy said:
Jim1556 said:
If this has buckets and decent service history, it could be a great buy...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2019...
Any previous owner knowledge Gents ?http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2019...
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