The 718 GT4 might be arriving sooner than you think!
Discussion
Fokker said:
Aha, I said every facelift...
996 - 3.4 to 3.6
997 - 3.6 to 3.8
991 - 3.8 to 4.0
The 718 is effectively a mild refresh apart form the turbo b
ks.
996 - 3.4 to 3.6
997 - 3.6 to 3.8
991 - 3.8 to 4.0
The 718 is effectively a mild refresh apart form the turbo b
ks. 
. When did the 996 mk1 gt3 have a 3.4l engine......?The 997 and 991 have followed the Cup in capacity in the gen2 cars with enough cars being made to make it worth the trouble. This capacity increase is hardly set in stone. Without another application for the engine, imo 4.0 on the gt4 and 4.2 on the rs is v unlikely.
isaldiri said:
. When did the 996 mk1 gt3 have a 3.4l engine......?The 997 and 991 have followed the Cup in capacity in the gen2 cars with enough cars being made to make it worth the trouble. This capacity increase is hardly set in stone. Without another application for the engine, imo 4.0 on the gt4 and 4.2 on the rs is v unlikely.
Smile, its all good banter
I hope it looks as good as the old one or I'll have to keep the old one and flip the new one back to the dealer.
Just been reading up on current Porsche engine bore and stroke sizes (9a2 3.0l b6 and 2.5/2.0l b4)all share the same stroke and 3.0/2.0 have same bore whereas 2.5 has a bigger bore ,they also all share same internals.So using off the shelf parts con rods,Pistons etc Porsche could quiet easily build a na f6 3725cc engine, could this be the future gt4 engine?
anonymous said:
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But it is not,different crank ,con rods,Pistons for starters plus the obvious shorter stroke and smaller bores! Hence why make the old 3.8 MA1 for the new gt4 with its different components when they can make up an engine using the current parts ie bore out the f6 3.0 to the same bore as the f4 2.5 keeping the crank and con rods of the 3.0. Thus keeping costs down by sharing common components across the current 911/cayster range!
http://www.porscheboost.com/content.php?6933-A-tec...
Edited by GT4P on Wednesday 8th November 07:48
Fokker said:
Ok rumbled on the 996 but the 997 and 991 both had 200cc increases. My butler says it's 4 litre and he's reliable. That info has come from the factory.
Smile, its all good banter I hope it looks as good as the old one or I'll have to keep the old one and flip the new one back to the dealer.
997.2 3.8 Smile, its all good banter
I hope it looks as good as the old one or I'll have to keep the old one and flip the new one back to the dealer.991.1 3.8
Porsche911R said:
Fokker said:
Ok rumbled on the 996 but the 997 and 991 both had 200cc increases. My butler says it's 4 litre and he's reliable. That info has come from the factory.
Smile, its all good banter I hope it looks as good as the old one or I'll have to keep the old one and flip the new one back to the dealer.
997.2 3.8 Smile, its all good banter
I hope it looks as good as the old one or I'll have to keep the old one and flip the new one back to the dealer.991.1 3.8
champ19ns said:
Not wanting to disclose names, but a very well respected GT specialist has reliably informed me that the 718 GT4 will be arriving next year and will very likely have a detuned version of the 4.0 GT3 engine.
Advised to get rid of the 981 'sooner rather than later'
Hmm.
IF true as no one really knows if and when and what, but let's say it has a detuned gt3 engine then it ain't going to be a £65k car again my bet is closer to £95k then throw in a few extras and we up to £105-110k so it's not going to have much effect on mk1 prices most likely keep them firm and as the flippers break cover prices may even rise! Advised to get rid of the 981 'sooner rather than later'
Hmm.
GT4P said:
IF true as no one really knows if and when and what, but let's say it has a detuned gt3 engine then it ain't going to be a £65k car again my bet is closer to £95k then throw in a few extras and we up to £105-110k so it's not going to have much effect on mk1 prices most likely keep them firm and as the flippers break cover prices may even rise!
I am looking to move to a Gen 1 991 GT3 at some point over the next 18 months, but all this talk of how much the 981 GT4 will be worth given the new one on the horizon is all a bit stressful for my liking. I hope the value in them doesn't plummet as its not a long termer for me (4 years+), so I guess timing moving on becomes important..
champ19ns said:
I am looking to move to a Gen 1 991 GT3 at some point over the next 18 months, but all this talk of how much the 981 GT4 will be worth given the new one on the horizon is all a bit stressful for my liking.
I hope the value in them doesn't plummet as its not a long termer for me (4 years+), so I guess timing moving on becomes important..
What happened to 991.1gt3 prices with the new one arrived , been out for 6months still trading over list and with the right spec. still commanding top dollarPersonally I would not worry too much if anything prices will firm up come spring and if prices fall on the gt4 so will the 991.1gt3 so still going to cost you the same to change!I hope the value in them doesn't plummet as its not a long termer for me (4 years+), so I guess timing moving on becomes important..
Even if car is announced at Geneva 2018 we won't see the first cars to the summer 2018 but I am not so sure we are going to see a new gt4 for at least another year
GT4P said:
Detuning a 500hp 4.0 litre gt3 engine what to 430hp makes zero sense to me so really can't see it!
Thinking about it the only engine that does make sense is a 430hp f4turbo which it is easily good for and it is all about the track club sport winning races! Maybe they will play on the 919 in the advertising!If the new GT4 arrives soon I'm sure Porsche will move the UK price up as they've successfully done with other cars, spec will rise too... If it also includes a GT3 engine I'm sure the price will go further up, I wondered if it would be badged a GT4RS and then maybe aligned to ~£90k...
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