987.2 - Leggy S or low miles base?

987.2 - Leggy S or low miles base?

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Tomm3

337 posts

151 months

Sunday 21st June 2020
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Magnum 475 said:
Get it bought!! Then take it to a reputable specialist for an LN ceramic bearing upgrade (Revolution Porsche did mine). Have a new clutch fitted at the same time. Now drive the car & enjoy!
Yeah I'm with you on that now, gonna drive it, enjoy it, and maybe get that work done too smile

Tomm3

337 posts

151 months

Thursday 25th June 2020
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Well I "got it bought", drove it home yesterday. Hottest day of the year so watching the temp gauge all the way back, all good. Without doubt it's the best car I've owned, a previous E46 M3 was sterile in comparison.
Not going over 5k revs, or even 3500 generally, until I've got it booked in at one of the Ims specialists, hopefully get a booking tomorrow. Love the gear spacing and the engine note. 6 month warranty on it so any bits I'll get done if they crop up.


Tomm3

337 posts

151 months

Wednesday 1st July 2020
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anonymous said:
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I had my 05 3.2 Boxster booked in for the bearing change assuming they would know if it had the external or internal one. Rang them today and they said they wouldn't know until they took the transmission off, which is pretty pointless to me.
So I could have had a nice new, unnecessary, clutch fitted but no Ims bearing. What a st-show from Porsche, shouldn't be this difficult to sort by engine numbers surely.
Anyway, I love the car, beautiful and brilliant to drive so it's a keeper.

ATM

18,399 posts

221 months

Thursday 2nd July 2020
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I'm a bit late to this party but I'd be telling the OP to get a simple 2.9 with basic spec and a Porsche warranty. The gen 2 car with 2.9 engine has enough go to be fun I'd say - but I've never driven one. Especially if you're coming from an NA vx220 rather than a turbo - wasn't sure. I have a 981 3.4 and you dont get much chance to properly attack it on public roads unless you live somewhere very rural and isolated.

I'm in the new PH less grip is better camp. Its no big secret that modern tyres have way more grip than older ones. The 2.9 cars can be found with simple little 17 wheels which have a smaller footprint of 205 front and 235 rear. That's plenty to keep you out of the kitty litter and the lighter wheels and tyres will give the car a more delicate steering feel and compliant ride. I switched to 17s on my 996 and the car drives much much better. Simple standard ride height passive dampers too I'd recommend so the basic basic spec 987 where possible. My 981 has the standard dampers and you can glide over speed bumps at insane speeds like they're not there.

Once you start talking about going on track I think you're better off with the simpler standard 2.9 car because if you can ring out all the performance of that then you're doing very well. The 3.4 will just eat through more tyres and brakes and all that for the odd second quicker. Plus I think the gen 2 car gives you less concerns about engine robustness unless we start talking about a gen 1 under warranty.

As moo has said if you buy privately you can transfer the warranty which is the only warranty worth having on one of these cars. Other dealer warranties just dont cover the amounts required in replacing engines and gearboxes. An engine for one of these is probably 15k and a gearbox 10. Other warranties limit claims to say 5k. Having a Porsche warranty is a pita, having to use a Porsche approved battery and tyres etc but if you are worried about stuff breaking you need one!

ATM

18,399 posts

221 months

Thursday 2nd July 2020
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Dunk130TC said:
anonymous said:
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It’s a stunner and now on my drive biggrin
Pics man

AshVX220

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5,929 posts

192 months

Thursday 2nd July 2020
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ATM said:
I'm a bit late to this party but I'd be telling the OP to get a simple 2.9 with basic spec and a Porsche warranty. The gen 2 car with 2.9 engine has enough go to be fun I'd say - but I've never driven one. Especially if you're coming from an NA vx220 rather than a turbo - wasn't sure. I have a 981 3.4 and you dont get much chance to properly attack it on public roads unless you live somewhere very rural and isolated.

I'm in the new PH less grip is better camp. Its no big secret that modern tyres have way more grip than older ones. The 2.9 cars can be found with simple little 17 wheels which have a smaller footprint of 205 front and 235 rear. That's plenty to keep you out of the kitty litter and the lighter wheels and tyres will give the car a more delicate steering feel and compliant ride. I switched to 17s on my 996 and the car drives much much better. Simple standard ride height passive dampers too I'd recommend so the basic basic spec 987 where possible. My 981 has the standard dampers and you can glide over speed bumps at insane speeds like they're not there.

Once you start talking about going on track I think you're better off with the simpler standard 2.9 car because if you can ring out all the performance of that then you're doing very well. The 3.4 will just eat through more tyres and brakes and all that for the odd second quicker. Plus I think the gen 2 car gives you less concerns about engine robustness unless we start talking about a gen 1 under warranty.

As moo has said if you buy privately you can transfer the warranty which is the only warranty worth having on one of these cars. Other dealer warranties just dont cover the amounts required in replacing engines and gearboxes. An engine for one of these is probably 15k and a gearbox 10. Other warranties limit claims to say 5k. Having a Porsche warranty is a pita, having to use a Porsche approved battery and tyres etc but if you are worried about stuff breaking you need one!
Hi ATM,
thanks for the info, I did start another thread thanking people for their input and to let people know I'd bought a 2.9 Gen Cayman, which I collect on Saturday. biggrin


ATM

18,399 posts

221 months

Thursday 2nd July 2020
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AshVX220 said:
Hi ATM,
thanks for the info, I did start another thread thanking people for their input and to let people know I'd bought a 2.9 Gen Cayman, which I collect on Saturday. biggrin

Link?

AshVX220

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5,929 posts

192 months

Thursday 2nd July 2020
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ATM said:
AshVX220 said:
Hi ATM,
thanks for the info, I did start another thread thanking people for their input and to let people know I'd bought a 2.9 Gen Cayman, which I collect on Saturday. biggrin

Link?
The thread is here;
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Dunk130TC

328 posts

192 months

Friday 3rd July 2020
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ATM said:
Dunk130TC said:
anonymous said:
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It’s a stunner and now on my drive biggrin
Pics man

2.9, sports seats, extended leather, rear park, Bose, 17s, 35k miles and Porsche warranty to Feb 21
Just need to offload my 06 2.7 Boxster that I’ve had for 5 years

ATM

18,399 posts

221 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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Dunk130TC said:
ATM said:
Dunk130TC said:
anonymous said:
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It’s a stunner and now on my drive biggrin
Pics man

2.9, sports seats, extended leather, rear park, Bose, 17s, 35k miles and Porsche warranty to Feb 21
Just need to offload my 06 2.7 Boxster that I’ve had for 5 years
That's cute

So simple in silver. Not trying too hard is it.

How you finding the change from gen 1 to 2 and losing the hair dresser soft top that must surely hurt?

julian718

6,840 posts

61 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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Dunk130TC said:

2.9, sports seats, extended leather, rear park, Bose, 17s, 35k miles and Porsche warranty to Feb 21
Just need to offload my 06 2.7 Boxster that I’ve had for 5 years
I very rarely see the extended leather option. Is it dash, radio surround, and door trim? anymore?

julian718

6,840 posts

61 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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anonymous said:
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Sounds great. Really great spec you have. You are right the extended leather option is super rare on 987.2's. I am about to collect my new car, a Cayman R (now lockdown restrictions are relaxed) and it has the extended leather option. It is even rarer on the R model. Probably 1 in 500 has it, if that (from extensive research). Apparently it was a £2,500 option back in the day.




julian718

6,840 posts

61 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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anonymous said:
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Does the option 981F LEATHER INTERIOR include the lower dash then? I didn't think it did? Does your option code state 981F

julian718

6,840 posts

61 months

Saturday 4th July 2020
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anonymous said:
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smile we'll have to agree to disagree. After extensive research across all R sales over the past 5 years, and globally. it is more like 1 in 500.

julian718

6,840 posts

61 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
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anonymous said:
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Seen those 2 yep. And a few other members cars posted in the R forum thread. On the whole though, if you look through cached/archived sales globally using internet archives, it is much rarer than your prediction. I agree, 1 in 500 is over-egged by me, but I would say it is no more common than in the 987.2
People kept the R stripped out to stick with the proposition of the model.
Anyhow, we can agree to disagree! Either way, R, 987.2, extended leather is super rare, and super essential in my book. I couldn't live with all that plastic.
Best regards
Julian




Tomm3

337 posts

151 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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Well that was a brief Porsche experience! 13 days.
Dealer convinced me, my bad certainly, the aircon was holding pressure just needed a re-gas but subsequent check at my local indie revealed both condensers failed. I took that on the chin, was going to book car in, but Sunday a window switch wasn't working, passenger side, then the engine light came on. Ffs. Rang dealer yday he said bring it back I'll refund you. So I did, today. All gone. Looking for something else now. (I also had it booked in for Ims bearing change in a week's time but there you go).
Can't say I'm that sad, brilliant car but sooo many foibles.
Off to the Z4 forums I go........

Tomm3

337 posts

151 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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anonymous said:
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Certainly some truth in that, would have hoped for a longer period of calm though. Was taking it to a local specialist today for an opinion on the Ims and would have been happy with his verdict.
Not averse to finding one I'm happy with, now I'm more alert :-)

Magnum 475

3,568 posts

134 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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anonymous said:
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Except the Z4M. That's good.... very, very, good. But the non-M, not so inspiring.


Magnum 475

3,568 posts

134 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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The 'M version feels very different from even the 3.0Si. On paper, not that much difference. But when you drive them, the M is simply in a different league, and a massive step up from the standard Z4. Hard to explain, but everything about it is better by several orders of magnitude. It should be though when you consider the price difference.

ATM

18,399 posts

221 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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I think the M is hydraulic power steering and the vanilla is eps.