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av185

18,630 posts

129 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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rockin said:
av185 said:
are 'no brainer' options which add more value to a specific Porsche than their cost option new
So let's see your list, and some real world resale examples to back it up. Until then I remain sceptical.
Ive specced enough new Porsche GTs and other 'smaller run' Porsches for numerous years to know what and what doesnt make a difference residually and regularly contribute to Porsche GT forums amonst other things to substantiate this of which there are many examples of numerous cars of both the right and wrong spec this so you can go ahead and check these out if you so wish.

I am not particularly interested in the Cayster GTS but 'no brainer' options for this car beimg a GTS to add value above option cost would briefly comprise chrono, climate, interior carbon, heated seats, extended leather with coloured stitching (preferably red depending on external colour), spp, auto dim mirrors and rain sensor.

Options that will NOT add value above cost to a GTS would be items such as buckets, ceramic brakes, black wheels, sunroof, carbon cills, coloured dials, coloured trim, aluminium pedals, coloured key lol, and extended leather e.g to steering wheel binnacle etc.

Nuttcase

416 posts

122 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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av185 said:
I am not particularly interested in the Cayster GTS but 'no brainer' options for this car beimg a GTS to add value above option cost would briefly comprise chrono, climate, interior carbon, heated seats, extended leather with coloured stitching (preferably red depending on external colour), spp, auto dim mirrors and rain sensor.

Options that will NOT add value above cost to a GTS would be items such as buckets, ceramic brakes, black wheels, sunroof, carbon cills, coloured dials, coloured trim, aluminium pedals, coloured key lol, and extended leather e.g to steering wheel binnacle etc.
Black wheels and sports chrono are standard on the Cayster GTS and sunroof unavailable! Otherwise I largely agree with you - not sure about the interior carbon though, it's not something I would actively seek or put much value on if I was in the market for a used P.

swanny71

2,865 posts

211 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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Nuttcase said:
av185 said:
I am not particularly interested in the Cayster GTS but 'no brainer' options for this car beimg a GTS to add value above option cost would briefly comprise chrono, climate, interior carbon, heated seats, extended leather with coloured stitching (preferably red depending on external colour), spp, auto dim mirrors and rain sensor.

Options that will NOT add value above cost to a GTS would be items such as buckets, ceramic brakes, black wheels, sunroof, carbon cills, coloured dials, coloured trim, aluminium pedals, coloured key lol, and extended leather e.g to steering wheel binnacle etc.
Black wheels and sports chrono are standard on the Cayster GTS and sunroof unavailable! Otherwise I largely agree with you - not sure about the interior carbon though, it's not something I would actively seek or put much value on if I was in the market for a used P.
Speaking as a potential used Cayman GTS buyer and not suggesting that you guys don’t know more about optioning up a new Porsche than I do:
None of those options make my must have list and only heated seats/coloured stitching would make the ‘nice to have’ list.

My point being that there will always be buyers who want “poorly” specified (by Porsche standards) cars, so no option is essential.
Anyone parting with a 981 Cayman GTS soon? - Must be manual in a sober colour.

Por5che

37 posts

53 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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In my opinion the only must have option on the new GTS 4.0 will be the PDK gearbox. Once that becomes available next year very few buyers are going to want a manual car.

Danpunch

72 posts

79 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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Por5che said:
In my opinion the only must have option on the new GTS 4.0 will be the PDK gearbox. Once that becomes available next year very few buyers are going to want a manual car.
How wholly inaccurate but I respect your opinion!

swanny71

2,865 posts

211 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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Por5che said:
In my opinion the only must have option on the new GTS 4.0 will be the PDK gearbox. Once that becomes available next year very few buyers are going to want a manual car.
PDK is the one option I would never consider

cc3

2,827 posts

118 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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anonymous said:
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Having had a GT4 the manual can be hard work given the state of traffic in UK. I’m firmly in the PDK camp now. Always had manual but totally out of question now. PDK also quicker

swanny71

2,865 posts

211 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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cc3 said:
Having had a GT4 the manual can be hard work given the state of traffic in UK. I’m firmly in the PDK camp now. Always had manual but totally out of question now. PDK also quicker
Personal preference and circumstance isn’t it.

If I was looking at a GT4 (I’m not), it’d be silly not to use it on track so might consider PDK since it’d be quicker and well suited to circuit use.
If I was looking for a Cayman to use as a daily in heavy traffic (I’m not), again I might consider PDK since it’d probably be a little more convenient.
The GTS I’m looking for will be used as a toy and for long weekends away so for me it has to be manual.

ghiblicup

605 posts

216 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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swanny71 said:
cc3 said:
Having had a GT4 the manual can be hard work given the state of traffic in UK. I’m firmly in the PDK camp now. Always had manual but totally out of question now. PDK also quicker
Personal preference and circumstance isn’t it.

If I was looking at a GT4 (I’m not), it’d be silly not to use it on track so might consider PDK since it’d be quicker and well suited to circuit use.
If I was looking for a Cayman to use as a daily in heavy traffic (I’m not), again I might consider PDK since it’d probably be a little more convenient.
The GTS I’m looking for will be used as a toy and for long weekends away so for me it has to be manual.
GT4 is manual only. All this PDK faster business is a nonsense unless you are actually racing? Lazy.

swanny71

2,865 posts

211 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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ghiblicup said:
GT4 is manual only. All this PDK faster business is a nonsense unless you are actually racing? Lazy.
To be clear, PDK isn’t for me, neither is a GT4 which I know is only manual at the moment.
But on track for someone of average abilities like myself, I suspect it would be better suited (having fluffed more than one brake/gear/corner combination on track)

Jimbo_vx

326 posts

238 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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I don’t really understand the 4 extended leather alcantara options

The red and the crayon require GTS interior pack on top (2,100), but I can’t see what that adds other than colour stitching and dark aluminium facias?

Conversely, The black stitching seems to give everything the GTS interior pack does minus facias and colour stitch.

Why would you spec GTS interior pack, over extended leather/alcantara

Twinfan

10,125 posts

106 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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swanny71 said:
Speaking as a potential used Cayman GTS buyer and not suggesting that you guys don’t know more about optioning up a new Porsche than I do:
None of those options make my must have list and only heated seats/coloured stitching would make the ‘nice to have’ list.

My point being that there will always be buyers who want “poorly” specified (by Porsche standards) cars, so no option is essential.
Anyone parting with a 981 Cayman GTS soon? - Must be manual in a sober colour.
Yep - my owned from new 12k mile Carrera White Metallic satin platinum wheeled manual 981 CGTS with silver stitching GTS interior and heated 2-way Sports Seats Plus plus cruise/auto mirrors/auto wipers/PTV/PASM/front and rear sensors plus reversing camera and a few other trinkets. It has no nav though, which seems to be a deal breaker for a lot of people even though it's not great on a 981 and cost £2500!

I'm getting a fair trade-in on it despite that, and the fact it's also due its four year service. I seriously doubt I'd be getting £2500 more for it if it had nav...

Twinfan

10,125 posts

106 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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Jimbo_vx said:
I don’t really understand the 4 extended leather alcantara options

The red and the crayon require GTS interior pack on top (2,100), but I can’t see what that adds other than colour stitching and dark aluminium facias?

Conversely, The black stitching seems to give everything the GTS interior pack does minus facias and colour stitch.

Why would you spec GTS interior pack, over extended leather/alcantara
Doesn't GTS Interior give you the carbon dash/doors trim plus a coloured rev counter too?

Ultimately though, it gives you alcantara and contrast stitching. Yes, it's expensive but it's unique to a GTS.

130R

6,814 posts

208 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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Initially I was going to wait for PDK (which is what I have now) but I thought a lot about it and I'm actually looking forward to going back to a manual gearbox again. Realistically these are the end times for cars like this and we'll all probably be driving electric cars with 1 or 2-speed automatics soon enough.

Andyoz

2,890 posts

56 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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anonymous said:
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Exactly. If you don't live somewhere you can really drive it or track it why buy one.

cc3

2,827 posts

118 months

Tuesday 4th February 2020
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anonymous said:
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So you would never own a Ferrari! Why are all Ferrari’s auto ? because they are quicker than manual. Are you happy taking your auto Ferrari on the track - yes. Are you happy with your auto Ferrari on the road - yes all very nice thank you

Jimbo_vx

326 posts

238 months

Tuesday 4th February 2020
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991.1&2 GTS are commanding a premium in manual. I was/have been looking for one for ages and would never consider PDK.

Same here, I’ve no interest in PDK GTS/4.

tedblog

1,438 posts

82 months

Tuesday 4th February 2020
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anonymous said:
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I think the rare is correct , the sought after not so , just a 981 gts search will show that they arent? They tend to sit around on the dealerships for a while compared to PDK. The % of registered to the % on sale is pretty high?

tedblog

1,438 posts

82 months

Tuesday 4th February 2020
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Twinfan said:
Doesn't GTS Interior give you the carbon dash/doors trim plus a coloured rev counter too?

Ultimately though, it gives you alcantara and contrast stitching. Yes, it's expensive but it's unique to a GTS.
Agreed or it looks like any other 718 in the range?

Jimbo_vx

326 posts

238 months

Tuesday 4th February 2020
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Twinfan said:
Jimbo_vx said:
I don’t really understand the 4 extended leather alcantara options

The red and the crayon require GTS interior pack on top (2,100), but I can’t see what that adds other than colour stitching and dark aluminium facias?

Conversely, The black stitching seems to give everything the GTS interior pack does minus facias and colour stitch.

Why would you spec GTS interior pack, over extended leather/alcantara
Doesn't GTS Interior give you the carbon dash/doors trim plus a coloured rev counter too?

Ultimately though, it gives you alcantara and contrast stitching. Yes, it's expensive but it's unique to a GTS.
Ah yes, had not realised you get carbon with it.
Will probably have to spec it then.

Not sure on crayon or red with python but think this looks good:
http://www.porsche-code.com/PLWWD9G5