12 GT4's for sale on PistonHeads and growing

[wells]

I can't believe no one has bought the yellow Leicester car at £90K! It has £2K of PPF on it as well.

Edited by wells on Monday 17th July 23:51

[Taffy66]

wells said:

I can't believe no one has bought the yellow Leicester car at £90K! It has £2K of PPF on it as well.

Edited by wells on Monday 17th July 23:51

I've been saying that for over a week and a recent price drop to £90k plus £2k PPF means it cost the first owner £87k so an absolute steal at £90k and the best value GT4 i've yet seen.

[wells]

It's a real steal. It was my car and I sold them it for £90K.

[robj4]

It was between that one and the white one at Top555 two weeks ago for me, my GTS was yellow though and the insect attraction thing had worn thin so the white one it was. Wasn't keen on black wheels either.

Does look a 'bargain' though right now.

[GT4P]

Cheib said:

If we take your numbers for Cayster and 997 that's 2000 cars. Then add maybe 400 996 ? And then 800 991.1 across GT3 and RS. So we're at 3200 cars so I was very high.

That makes the amount of cars due in the next couple of years a big number in % terms then!

400 GT3
300 GT3 RS
100 GT2 RS
600 GT4
200 Spyders

The numbers are really not that big when you consider that something like a Ferrari 458 had 1500 cars registered new in the UK over circa a 5 year period

[timpo]

PTS Green GT4 popped up at OPC Mayfair yesterday. Must be the Newcastle one (?), though that change hasn't been registered on either Centre's stock list yet.

I wish I'd taken a picture, but I think the sticker price showed £90k. But it might have been £99k, not very helpful I know. Either way that's a big move.

[Twinfan]

wells said:

I can't believe no one has bought the yellow Leicester car at £90K! It has £2K of PPF on it as well.

Prices are dropping. Any canny buyer will sit and watch for a bit, and given the recent £2k drop they may be waiting to see if it goes lower.

Very uncertain times to pay overs IMHO. Too many cars for sale.

[Porsche911R]

wells said:

It's a real steal. It was my car and I sold them it for £90K.

They bought it outright at £90k, that was brave.

[Porsche911R]

Twinfan said:

Prices are dropping. Any canny buyer will sit and watch for a bit, and given the recent £2k drop they may be waiting to see if it goes lower.

Very uncertain times to pay overs IMHO. Too many cars for sale.

I think it's possable to get overs and still safe for buyes, just over speced cars are not worth £90/95k as I don't think the GT4 is a £95k car.

[Cheib]

GT4P said:

Cheib said:

If we take your numbers for Cayster and 997 that's 2000 cars. Then add maybe 400 996 ? And then 800 991.1 across GT3 and RS. So we're at 3200 cars so I was very high.

That makes the amount of cars due in the next couple of years a big number in % terms then!

400 GT3
300 GT3 RS
100 GT2 RS
600 GT4
200 Spyders

The numbers are really not that big when you consider that something like a Ferrari 458 had 1500 cars registered new in the UK over circa a 5 year period

True but in the context of existing cars In the U.K. it's a big % though and the kind of supply we've not seen before from Porsche. I'd imagine the market for 458's is bigger ?

[MartinRS2K]

wells said:

I can't believe no one has bought the yellow Leicester car at £90K! It has £2K of PPF on it as well.

Edited by wells on Monday 17th July 23:51

If I knew 100% either way about my GT3 allocation then I would seriously look at buying this car. I just need to wait until September when I am told I will be given my answer YES or NO

[HokumPokum]

which car is as good , nearly new at 100k mark?

The balance, the grip, the chassis, the front gt3 suspension, the over-sized brakes (especially in PCCB), being N.A flat 6, relatively light weight at 1340kg stripped.

AND to top it, the great ride comfort. The single greatest advancement in newer cars is the adaptive damping, it allows great usability and comfort out of race tracks and yet retain great control on track. Try driving an older Gt car in the city or on bumpy roads......

There just isn't one. You can get the heavier and much more expensive GT3 or this.
from other marques, nothing has the same quality engineered feel and durability on track as well as daily comfort provided by a Porsche GT car and the baby of the range is always the pick of the range....

shall I remind everyone that it probably costs Porsche less than 5k more to make a GT3 RS? all this obsession about the engine... Increasing horsepower is the cheapest thing for an automaker to do.. it's what to do to contain the horses in the package is the expensive part. Most joes don't realize this but I expect better of the punters here.

[TDT]

HokumPokum said:

which car is as good , nearly new at 100k mark?

The balance, the grip, the chassis, the front gt3 suspension, the over-sized brakes (especially in PCCB), being N.A flat 6, relatively light weight at 1340kg stripped.

AND to top it, the great ride comfort. The single greatest advancement in newer cars is the adaptive damping, it allows great usability and comfort out of race tracks and yet retain great control on track. Try driving an older Gt car in the city or on bumpy roads......

There just isn't one. You can get the heavier and much more expensive GT3 or this.
from other marques, nothing has the same quality engineered feel and durability on track as well as daily comfort provided by a Porsche GT car

This, x100.

From 65K-100K name a better PACKAGE right now.... go on, try. If you can buy that instead.
People complaining about overs, its just an excuse. Price is determined by supply and demand, and what the market will bear. If you can't bear it - you're not in the target market right now. I now wish I could have bought at list - I probably could have if I tried at the time or held off my GTS order- but i didn't and it wasn't the right car for me at the time anyway. I was a sceptic,(just like Twinfan) until I'd had enough of the GTS and wanted something else. I tried the GT4, after also trying 570S and AMG GT S. For me, GT4 delivered everything.

[Twinfan]

I'm looking forward to my 90min PEC session in a GT4 next month. As my CGTS is manual with PASM and PTV it's as close as you can get to GT4 spec. I don't think comparing a PDK and X73 GTS to a GT4 is a valid comparison given the substantial differences the gearbox and suspension make.

I'm expecting it be similar, but a bit firmer and quicker, than my car. We'll see though!

[GT4P]

Ignore twinfan he's been waiting for ages for prices to fall and as I mentioned earlier there will still be a £15-20k gap between his GtS if prices go into freefall. Has said above there is no car worth buying under £100k as a complete all rounder but I do agree the £95-100k cars look expensive now ! IMHO the price gap will narrow and it will all come down to good spec. mainly buckets and leather as the main items and colour will also be a big factor!
Still think prices will settle at the £75-80k mark next year and remain firm unless of course we have UK melt down!

[Porsche911R]

Twinfan said:

I'm looking forward to my 90min PEC session in a GT4 next month. As my CGTS is manual with PASM and PTV it's as close as you can get to GT4 spec. I don't think comparing a PDK and X73 GTS to a GT4 is a valid comparison given the substantial differences the gearbox and suspension make.

I'm expecting it be similar, but a bit firmer and quicker, than my car. We'll see though!

wont feel any quicker. PEC track really don't suite the GT4 gears, and the oem set up on a GT4 is painfull imo.

I did not review the GT4 well at Pec 2 years ago. The down sides out shines the upsides at PEC for me at the time.

people keep going on about the 3.8 but the cars no faster in the real world than a CGTS and with PDK in the GTS you might even get over taken lol

What you should notice is far better steering feel and the car does feel very GT like to drive and solid. you might even say it rides nicer as the GT4 is crazy smooth for a 20" wheel car.

But the hype on the 3.8 is just that hype. The noise on the other hand is perfect, imo the GT4 sound is nailed.

My fast road geo with after market parts really is like another car vs a stock GT4.

The mid engine layout with Cup 2's and a extreme fast road geo is the GT4 party trick, it corners on rails.

[GT4P]

Twinfan said:

I'm looking forward to my 90min PEC session in a GT4 next month. As my CGTS is manual with PASM and PTV it's as close as you can get to GT4 spec. I don't think comparing a PDK and X73 GTS to a GT4 is a valid comparison given the substantial differences the gearbox and suspension make.

I'm expecting it be similar, but a bit firmer and quicker, than my car. We'll see though!

An X73 CGtS is going to be closer to a Gt4 ride than a PASM one no matter what the gearbox!
IMHO a manual X73 Gts is the car to have in the Gts line up! I have always found the standard PAsm on caysters crap and pdk is just personal choice!

[Twinfan]

GT4P said:

Ignore twinfan he's been waiting for ages for prices to fall and as I mentioned earlier there will still be a £15-20k gap between his GtS if prices go into freefall.

I'm not waiting for prices to fall, and I don't care about the price of my CGTS. I bought it to enjoy and I'm doing just that! Just because I comment in the GT4 pricing thread it doesn't mean I give a monkeys about values - it's just discussion after all.

Porsche911R said:

wont feel any quicker. PEC track really don't suite the GT4 gears, and the oem set up on a GT4 is painfull imo.

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What you should notice is far better steering feel and the car does feel very GT like to drive and solid. you might even say it rides nicer as the GT4 is crazy smooth for a 20" wheel car..

GTS is crazy smooth too, so a little firmer is what I'm expecting. Steering feel will be interesting, I'm not convinced I care enough about it.

GT4P said:

An X73 CGtS is going to be closer to a Gt4 ride than a PASM one no matter what the gearbox!
IMHO a manual X73 Gts is the car to have in the Gts line up! I have always found the standard PAsm on caysters crap and pdk is just personal choice!

Active suspension and a manual box is closer to a GT4, the X73 is an old skool passive setup and not comparable. I'm talking closest in spec to a GT4, not what you think is the "best" version as that's subjective.

Have you driven a 981 GTS on PASM? There is no way on earth you can describe it as "crap".

[Porsche911R]

GT4P said:

Ignore twinfan he's been waiting for ages for prices to fall and as I mentioned earlier there will still be a £15-20k gap between his GtS if prices go into freefall. Has said above there is no car worth buying under £100k as a complete all rounder but I do agree the £95-100k cars look expensive now ! IMHO the price gap will narrow and it will all come down to good spec. mainly buckets and leather as the main items and colour will also be a big factor!
Still think prices will settle at the £75-80k mark next year and remain firm unless of course we have UK melt down!

I think at £100k you are open to a wide choice depending what you want, driver spec due to the drop has the 997.2 GT3 back in eye sight, or a Audi R8 V10 plus can be had for cira £100k for a NA V10 600bhp super car, or a Macca 12c if you just crave speed.

£100k opens lots of doors, one might even be tempted to tick a Ferrari dream (not me but I can see the £100k buyer think about a load of options)

£75k the GT4 is no contest, £100k gives you many options.

Also depends if you just have one car, as when you look at a 2 car garage for £100k cars looks better value, a Golf Clubsport (I love my new one) + a Exige 350 Sport is cheaper than a £100k GT4 and the 2 car garage wins in more areas than a GT4 !

Clubsport for the week and an Exige 350 for the weekends at £75k total for both and £25k in your pocket or a Ducatti and still change :-) is a hard option to turn down imo if you are looking at Spending £100k for fun and makes a GT4 seem a stupid choice !

Edited by Porsche911R on Tuesday 18th July 11:31

[GT4P]

Porsche911R said:

people keep going on about the 3.8 but the cars no faster in the real world than a CGTS and with PDK in the GTS you might even get over taken lol
.

MrD I totally disagree with you as you know, the manual gt4 v pdk Gts(sport mode) is quicker to 60mph but over 2 seconds quicker to 124mph(Porsche stated figures) so how is a pdk Gts going to overtake lol!
As you well I have owned just as many caysters as you and I find the Gt4 so much quicker than my old 987 Spyder which by the way has the same gear ratios but I would agree the gt4 would benefit from the ECu and Intake restriction being removed to release the 400 horses to the redline instead of the drop off at 6500rpm which incidentally is the same power curve as the 997.2s but no one ever complained about that!