The new 718 Gt4/Spyder are here!

[daro911]

av185 said:

TDT said:

Further PDK review -

https://www.motortrend.com/cars/porsche/718-cayman...

Thanks for posting.

Interesting what is said about the manual and PDK gear ratios appearing to be the same.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgEk8zeEbIQ

[TDT]

Twinfan said:

With only a handful of mph difference between the gears of Spanish vs PDK gearboxes they essentially are the same - we knew this already...

The benefit will be the traditional PDK advantages of:

shift speeds...
no break in power, due to having to disengage clutch with foot
ability to change gear mid corner, at full chat without unsettling the car.

Trade off is engagement.

[Twinfan]

TDT said:

The benefit will be the traditional PDK advantages of:

shift speeds...
no break in power, due to having to disengage clutch with foot
ability to change gear mid corner, at full chat without unsettling the car.

Trade off is engagement.

And we also knew all that already too

[mobil1]

TDT said:

Twinfan said:

With only a handful of mph difference between the gears of Spanish vs PDK gearboxes they essentially are the same - we knew this already...

The benefit will be the traditional PDK advantages of:

shift speeds...
no break in power, due to having to disengage clutch with foot
ability to change gear mid corner, at full chat without unsettling the car.

Trade off is engagement.

SmokingTire did a review on the PDK gearbox also when he got his hands on the 718 GT4 PDK. Having reviewed the 718 Spyder previously, he came to the same conclusion. ie. the PDK did not make that much difference to the gearing. I have posted this link below for those that might be interested in viewing it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBa5QJ4Acl4

[MPorsche]

Just picked her up! Nice 200 mile motorway journey to get things going. Hated the buckets at first, but once my back went numb they were surprisingly comfortable.

So much more torque than the 981 S! More to follow!

[Jefferson Steelflex]

MPorsche said:

Just picked her up! Nice 200 mile motorway journey to get things going. Hated the buckets at first, but once my back went numb they were surprisingly comfortable.

So much more torque than the 981 S! More to follow!

Lovely

[MrChips]

New configurator is up and running.. my current planned spec looks ace!


Although having just seen this it’s definitely leaning me towards finding a way to make man maths work for a pts build.



Is it actually a lot harder to get a pts slot? Or just a matter of waiting a little longer once they’ve offered you a build?

[Goldjono]

Is it actually a lot harder to get a pts slot? Or just a matter of waiting a little longer once they’ve offered you a build?
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I think the fact, it’s not a configurator option, would suggest PTS build slots are very limited on the 718 range in the UK. I was advised that for Q1 2021 there were only 2 PTS 718 builds slots allocated to the UK, mine being one of them.

[mondie]

TDT said:

Further PDK review -

https://www.motortrend.com/cars/porsche/718-cayman...

Thanks for posting, this is a pretty favourable review with some surprising performance figures. I am leaning toward PDK so this reinforces my decision.

[Twinfan]

mondie said:

Thanks for posting, this is a pretty favourable review with some surprising performance figures. I am leaning toward PDK so this reinforces my decision.

The 0-62 improvement is down to launch control, once rolling the cars are pretty similar. Porsche always underestimate performance stats, the manual car is also quicker than it is on paper.

I wouldn't choose PDK if you think it'll be substantially faster everywhere, all the time

[Jefferson Steelflex]

MrChips said:

New configurator is up and running.. my current planned spec looks ace!

You need to share your Porsche Code so people on here can critique your choice of stitching and seatbelt colour, plus it’s always interesting to see what other people spec on these cars.

[mondie]

Twinfan said:

The 0-62 improvement is down to launch control, once rolling the cars are pretty similar. Porsche always underestimate performance stats, the manual car is also quicker than it is on paper.

I wouldn't choose PDK if you think it'll be substantially faster everywhere, all the time

Agree, I understand the differences the performance is derived. I have had manuals for decades and own a performance manual car now so don't buy into the higher engagement argument, it's just a different type of driving. I think I would prefer this car with PDK because I have enjoyed past cars with DSG boxes, and PDK is reputed to be the king of them.

[Twinfan]

All good - sounds like you're choosing what's best for you, which is exactly how it should be!

[jake1248]

Just a question, does anyone know if its as easy to get an allocation for a GT4 now as I'm looking to order one but was offered one end of last year but wasn't the right timing for me at that point. Has anyone had any problems getting allocations recently?

[Joscal]

mondie said:

Agree, I understand the differences the performance is derived. I have had manuals for decades and own a performance manual car now so don't buy into the higher engagement argument, it's just a different type of driving. I think I would prefer this car with PDK because I have enjoyed past cars with DSG boxes, and PDK is reputed to be the king of them.

I just don’t get the anti PDK sentiment on forums either, I’ve had manual, DCT and PDK and they’re all good in their own ways as you say.

Personally I’m starting to prefer the auto function particularly as the traffic is getting worse and worse seemingly everywhere I go!

My GT4 was manual but I bet the PDK is epic

Edited by Joscal on Saturday 10th April 11:09

Edited by Joscal on Saturday 10th April 11:37

[MPorsche]

jake1248 said:

Just a question, does anyone know if its as easy to get an allocation for a GT4 now as I'm looking to order one but was offered one end of last year but wasn't the right timing for me at that point. Has anyone had any problems getting allocations recently?

I don’t think the re call has helped. I pulled out of my build slot, wanted the car now.

[mobil1]

mondie said:

Twinfan said:

The 0-62 improvement is down to launch control, once rolling the cars are pretty similar. Porsche always underestimate performance stats, the manual car is also quicker than it is on paper.

I wouldn't choose PDK if you think it'll be substantially faster everywhere, all the time

Agree, I understand the differences the performance is derived. I have had manuals for decades and own a performance manual car now so don't buy into the higher engagement argument, it's just a different type of driving. I think I would prefer this car with PDK because I have enjoyed past cars with DSG boxes, and PDK is reputed to be the king of them.

Totally agree. It is a different type of drive/feel to the car. Do what is best/right for you. Me personally, I have been driving PDK/DSG boxes for a good few years now. They are extremely easier to drive especially as an everyday car in today's traffic. When the Spyder/GT4 PDK was announced, I thought great that's the one I will have. The OPC certainly thought it was a good move as it was not offered with that setup previously. However, having had some time to think it through further, it is the manual that appeals. £2k cheaper, car not being tracked, not interested in 0-60 times or how much quicker it is with PDK launch control. It's a 4.0L Porsche so it's more than fast enough either way! 3 auto cars in the family already for everyday driving. Car will be used for weekends/occasional trips to wales, etc. Different drive as you say and that's the appeal. Horses for courses!

On a little side note, I see that Porsche are now offering the PDK as standard transmission with a manual tick box as a no cost option. Can't remember where/which model I saw this for but what does this mean for manuals going forward? Are Porsche beginning to push the PDKs more? Obviously it's already been costed into the purchase price whereas right now on GT4/Spyder we are able to pay extra for PDK if that's what the customer wants.

[MrChips]

Definitely not helping with my “I want but prob won’t get a pts slot”

[av185]

Is that the same Lambo colour as A Preuningers 992 GT3?

[MrChips]

av185 said:

Is that the same Lambo colour as A Preuningers 992 GT3?

I think so, it’s Azzuro Thetis.