The new 718 Gt4/Spyder are here!

[MPorsche]

kmpowell said:

BlackWidow13 said:

kmpowell said:

Both the red and white cars at Ashgood have been with them for a while,

The red one appears to have been sold.

The red one was "reserved" a few days after it appeared, then it was back on sale, it's now showing as "reserved again" in teh past 24hours. Both cars have also jumped up and down by £1k over the time they have been for sale.

A small thing I also noticed is the descriptions are mixed up. The white one has the black bi-xenon upgrade, but it says in the description that it has LED's, and the red one has the LED's but says it has the Xenons.

ashgood are good to deal with. I would be waiting if I were you. These values are too high

[kmpowell]

MPorsche said:

I would be waiting if I were you. These values are too high

They are silly high. I'm sitting tight, hoping my deposit turns into an allocation.

[MPorsche]

kmpowell said:

MPorsche said:

I would be waiting if I were you. These values are too high

They are silly high. I'm sitting tight, hoping my deposit turns into an allocation.

Have you got a spec in mind?

[kmpowell]

MPorsche said:

kmpowell said:

MPorsche said:

I would be waiting if I were you. These values are too high

They are silly high. I'm sitting tight, hoping my deposit turns into an allocation.

Have you got a spec in mind?

Yup. I'm 100% on options, it's just the colour combo I'm undecided on. It's varied quite a bit as I've played on the configurator and researched (trawling the Rennlist GT4 colour threads has been a gold mine for my decision making!) but after a few months I'm pretty settled on:

http://www.porsche-code.com/PNH6T137
or
http://www.porsche-code.com/PNRT3LB5

[MPorsche]

kmpowell said:

MPorsche said:

kmpowell said:

MPorsche said:

I would be waiting if I were you. These values are too high

They are silly high. I'm sitting tight, hoping my deposit turns into an allocation.

Have you got a spec in mind?

Yup. I'm 100% on options, it's just the colour combo I'm undecided on. It's varied quite a bit as I've played on the configurator and researched (trawling the Rennlist GT4 colour threads has been a gold mine for my decision making!) but after a few months I'm pretty settled on:

http://www.porsche-code.com/PNH6T137
or
http://www.porsche-code.com/PNRT3LB5

Got to love crayon!

Pic - paulhphoto

[Porsche guy]

kmpowell said:

Yup. I'm 100% on options, it's just the colour combo I'm undecided on. It's varied quite a bit as I've played on the configurator and researched (trawling the Rennlist GT4 colour threads has been a gold mine for my decision making!) but after a few months I'm pretty settled on:

http://www.porsche-code.com/PNH6T137
or
http://www.porsche-code.com/PNRT3LB5

No buckets or cage, you sure you want a GT4 and not a GTS?

[kmpowell]

Porsche guy said:

kmpowell said:

Yup. I'm 100% on options, it's just the colour combo I'm undecided on. It's varied quite a bit as I've played on the configurator and researched (trawling the Rennlist GT4 colour threads has been a gold mine for my decision making!) but after a few months I'm pretty settled on:

http://www.porsche-code.com/PNH6T137
or
http://www.porsche-code.com/PNRT3LB5

No buckets or cage, you sure you want a GT4 and not a GTS?

Yes.

[MPorsche]

kmpowell said:

Porsche guy said:

kmpowell said:

Yup. I'm 100% on options, it's just the colour combo I'm undecided on. It's varied quite a bit as I've played on the configurator and researched (trawling the Rennlist GT4 colour threads has been a gold mine for my decision making!) but after a few months I'm pretty settled on:

http://www.porsche-code.com/PNH6T137
or
http://www.porsche-code.com/PNRT3LB5

No buckets or cage, you sure you want a GT4 and not a GTS?

Yes.

Mine has the cage, sure it’s fairly cool to have, but I wouldn’t waste £2,700. The buckets on the other hand… they are a must in my opinion

[dashobbit]

Agree. Each to their own of course but IMO a GT4 is a waste of time on the road due to the gearing, so the “must haves” for me would be clubsport, PCCBs and PDK

Otherwise there’s a better model / car out there for the road / “experience” etc

[MPorsche]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

It’s an RS

[av185]

dashobbit said:

Agree. Each to their own of course but IMO a GT4 is a waste of time on the road due to the gearing

Internet folklore.

[RichieRichie]

MPorsche said:

Mine has the cage, sure it’s fairly cool to have, but I wouldn’t waste £2,700. The buckets on the other hand… they are a must in my opinion

Hi MPorsche, I’ve specced mine with PDK, Full Buckets and Clubsport, why do you think it’s a waste of money? Be interesting to hear about your spec, I’ve gone back and forward on how to spec it both for my own use and with one eye on future desirability

[MPorsche]

RichieRichie said:

Hi MPorsche, I’ve specced mine with PDK, Full Buckets and Clubsport, why do you think it’s a waste of money? Be interesting to hear about your spec, I’ve gone back and forward on how to spec it both for my own use and with one eye on future desirability

I just think if you are keeping one eye on the price it is something you could forego. Not sure what a bit of scaffolding in the back does? Marginally stiffer, you’d have to be shifting some to notice any difference.

My spec is clubsport, buckets PCCB etc. Not sure i would miss the clubsport, then again I’ve probably missed the whole point of it….

[TDT]

MPorsche said:

RichieRichie said:

Hi MPorsche, I’ve specced mine with PDK, Full Buckets and Clubsport, why do you think it’s a waste of money? Be interesting to hear about your spec, I’ve gone back and forward on how to spec it both for my own use and with one eye on future desirability

I just think if you are keeping one eye on the price it is something you could forego. Not sure what a bit of scaffolding in the back does? Marginally stiffer, you’d have to be shifting some to notice any difference.

My spec is clubsport, buckets PCCB etc. Not sure i would miss the clubsport, then again I’ve probably missed the whole point of it….

It’s a safety devices for use with the harnesses. Bolt-ins are not for chassis stiffness.
If you were in a track incident that involve the car getting onto its roof then, harnesses will keep you locked in the seat meaning you haven’t go much place to go with your head. The roll cage protects your head by keeping a structure.

[MPorsche]

TDT said:

MPorsche said:

RichieRichie said:

Hi MPorsche, I’ve specced mine with PDK, Full Buckets and Clubsport, why do you think it’s a waste of money? Be interesting to hear about your spec, I’ve gone back and forward on how to spec it both for my own use and with one eye on future desirability

I just think if you are keeping one eye on the price it is something you could forego. Not sure what a bit of scaffolding in the back does? Marginally stiffer, you’d have to be shifting some to notice any difference.

My spec is clubsport, buckets PCCB etc. Not sure i would miss the clubsport, then again I’ve probably missed the whole point of it….

It’s a safety devices for use with the harnesses. Bolt-ins are not for chassis stiffness.
If you were in a track incident that involve the car getting onto its roof then, harnesses will keep you locked in the seat meaning you haven’t go much place to go with your head. The roll cage protects your head by keeping a structure.

As predicted I completely overlooked it’s use. Given the harness is in the box somewhere is it largely irrelevant feature to me

[kmpowell]

av185 said:

Internet folklore.

Agreed, 100%. If the Internet were to be believed the GT4 is a track only car, for track masters who chase times. Buckets are apparently a 'must', as are PCCBs and if some on this thread are to be believed so is the CS pack.

Personally I don't want (or need) Buckets, PCCBs, or the Rollcage, so I think I'll save my £12,163 (£3,788+£5,597+£2,778) and spend it on something else.

Perhaps, just perhaps, there are some of us who want a GT Porsche, but don't need/want the full fat track hero, instead wanting to enjoy what a GT product has to offer, but with predominantly road use in mind. I've driven a GTS and it was too soft for me, it also, and this is a key point, didn't feel special, it just felt like any other 718. The GT4 I drove on the other hand wasn't, it felt like an occasion, and that's what I want from a car that will be used at weekends and occasions. So for me it's comfort seats, steels, and a splattering of subjective colour combination.

Horses for courses, and it would be a boring place if we were all the same.

[av185]

kmpowell said:

av185 said:

Internet folklore.

Agreed, 100%. If the Internet were to be believed the GT4 is a track only car, for track masters who chase times. Buckets are apparently a 'must', as are PCCBs and if some on this thread are to be believed so is the CS pack.

Personally I don't want (or need) Buckets, PCCBs, or the Rollcage, so I think I'll save my £12,163 (£3,788+£5,597+£2,778) and spend it on something else.

Perhaps, just perhaps, there are some of us who want a GT Porsche, but don't need/want the full fat track hero, instead wanting to enjoy what a GT product has to offer, but with predominantly road use in mind. I've driven a GTS and it was too soft for me, it also, and this is a key point, didn't feel special, it just felt like any other 718. The GT4 I drove on the other hand wasn't, it felt like an occasion, and that's what I want from a car that will be used at weekends and occasions. So for me it's comfort seats, steels, and a splattering of subjective colour combination.

Horses for courses, and it would be a boring place if we were all the same.

Very true and my post related to the well discussed GT4 PDK v manual gearing which in practice makes very little difference and usability of the car especially for road use where the manual scores over the PDK mainly due to increased driver involvement especially with its superb gearbox action. PDK a great box though.

There is no doubting that the cost of buckets pccbs and cage is high in monetary terms ££ proportionate to the cost of the car and its a contentious point that Porsche have the cheek to charge £2700 for the cage when it is free in the GT3 furthermore the buckets are almost double the cost of these same seats in the 981 GT4!

You refer to the GT4 feeling special over the GTS which I agree with it is a special car. One point on the bucket seats they do add that further special factor to the car and not just because of the far superior and lower seating position and as you know most buyers of GT Porsche want them on used examples and as such they really are a no brainer option adding value over cost. Clubsport cars also sell for more than bucketed non cs but prob for not much more than the costed option.

PCCBs also add value on the 718 GT4 but only around half the option cost.

Looking at your specs each to their own but I would be inclined to save money on the grossly overpriced c£500 option black painted brake calipers poss cruise camera and expensive light package upgrade non of which add much value.

Good luck with your allocation and enjoy the car they are a great package especially at the money.

[MPorsche]

kmpowell said:

av185 said:

Internet folklore.

Agreed, 100%. If the Internet were to be believed the GT4 is a track only car, for track masters who chase times. Buckets are apparently a 'must', as are PCCBs and if some on this thread are to be believed so is the CS pack.

Personally I don't want (or need) Buckets, PCCBs, or the Rollcage, so I think I'll save my £12,163 (£3,788+£5,597+£2,778) and spend it on something else.

Perhaps, just perhaps, there are some of us who want a GT Porsche, but don't need/want the full fat track hero, instead wanting to enjoy what a GT product has to offer, but with predominantly road use in mind. I've driven a GTS and it was too soft for me, it also, and this is a key point, didn't feel special, it just felt like any other 718. The GT4 I drove on the other hand wasn't, it felt like an occasion, and that's what I want from a car that will be used at weekends and occasions. So for me it's comfort seats, steels, and a splattering of subjective colour combination.

Horses for courses, and it would be a boring place if we were all the same.

I think you took my comment the wrong way. In my opinion they are a must, they add some much to the experience especially when pushing on. For what it’s worth I only drive on road.

But you do what you feel is right, let’s hope the allocation comes up!

[AdamGT4]

kmpowell said:

av185 said:

Internet folklore.

Agreed, 100%. If the Internet were to be believed the GT4 is a track only car, for track masters who chase times. Buckets are apparently a 'must', as are PCCBs and if some on this thread are to be believed so is the CS pack.

Personally I don't want (or need) Buckets, PCCBs, or the Rollcage, so I think I'll save my £12,163 (£3,788+£5,597+£2,778) and spend it on something else.

Perhaps, just perhaps, there are some of us who want a GT Porsche, but don't need/want the full fat track hero, instead wanting to enjoy what a GT product has to offer, but with predominantly road use in mind. I've driven a GTS and it was too soft for me, it also, and this is a key point, didn't feel special, it just felt like any other 718. The GT4 I drove on the other hand wasn't, it felt like an occasion, and that's what I want from a car that will be used at weekends and occasions. So for me it's comfort seats, steels, and a splattering of subjective colour combination.

Horses for courses, and it would be a boring place if we were all the same.

Don’t worry many more people are coming round to this way of thinking. Non bucket cars are easily selling and half the time they aren’t even £4K more then the normal seats.

Spec the car your way and enjoy it

[ultimateporka]

AdamGT4 said:

Don’t worry many more people are coming round to this way of thinking. Non bucket cars are easily selling and half the time they aren’t even £4K more then the normal seats.

Spec the car your way and enjoy it

I specced CS with isofix so my little ones can also enjoy the B road blast! Do what’s best for you and your needs, couldn’t care less about value of it without PCCBs or buckets down the line…