12 GT4's for sale on PistonHeads and growing
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Swimfinz said:
...... And you negatively impact that all-important “relationship” with your OPC.... Always good to keep things “in house” I find.... 
Well...East London offered me a pathetic value to trade back in for a .1 GT3 (which they didn't have at the time) West London ended up giving me over £10k more for my GT4 and most importantly a 'solid' relationship
I bought the GT4 and a new Cayenne from East London and they couldn't even bother to get me the PEC day they promised me arranged. Ignored my emails and the biggest gripe of all is that they were very shady when financing my Cayenne (long story) resulted in me getting third party finance as I was told Porsche wouldn't cover both my GT4 and Cayenne. This was a lie to get me to finance through someone else..
Shame but West London have been great thus far.
champ19ns said:
Well...East London offered me a pathetic value to trade back in for a .1 GT3 (which they didn't have at the time)
West London ended up giving me over £10k more for my GT4 and most importantly a 'solid' relationship
I bought the GT4 and a new Cayenne from East London and they couldn't even bother to get me the PEC day they promised me arranged. Ignored my emails and the biggest gripe of all is that they were very shady when financing my Cayenne (long story) resulted in me getting third party finance as I was told Porsche wouldn't cover both my GT4 and Cayenne. This was a lie to get me to finance through someone else..
Shame but West London have been great thus far.
Man like faz? West London ended up giving me over £10k more for my GT4 and most importantly a 'solid' relationship
I bought the GT4 and a new Cayenne from East London and they couldn't even bother to get me the PEC day they promised me arranged. Ignored my emails and the biggest gripe of all is that they were very shady when financing my Cayenne (long story) resulted in me getting third party finance as I was told Porsche wouldn't cover both my GT4 and Cayenne. This was a lie to get me to finance through someone else..
Shame but West London have been great thus far.
Will be interested to hear your thoughts on the GT3.1 over the GT4.
It's just the right season for them again. Not the best car to own over the winter but now the weathers warming up they'll grow in popularity. I hope so anyway, im £15k down on mine.... not that i plan on changing it any time soon. Did my first track day in it around silverstone GP on weds, so much fun!
Nickz said:
Nothing better for the money is my guess.
Loads of cars better if you are not tracking it at 1/2 the price.These value for money threads are a bit out of hand lol
Great value at £64k list not so much at £90k
As a road car 997 GTS has the better engine , more feel and shorter gearing.
Cayman R is 1/2 the price but more fun !
An Elise cup is £35k and would be nicer to track.
Great cars all the same but there are loads of great cars to try cheaper.
I’m sorry but the 997 GTS is more of an every day proposition and handling isn’t half as sweet as the mid engined gt4 plus not much cheaper and possibly now more expensive in manual form. The gt4’s engine is excellent in most respects and fine for the job. 90k? You do exaggerate! One can be had for a lot less if you don’t want fixed buckets.
You can’t use the lotus every day or unless you’re mad and the Cayman R is too slow.
You can’t use the lotus every day or unless you’re mad and the Cayman R is too slow.
It was a good few years between owning both the 997 GTS (manual) and GT4 but I think the GTS was a better drive (for the road). Gearbox throw was better (shorter) on the GT4 but I think with a short-shift kit the 997 manual could be improved? Interior is nicely improved on the GT4, and handling was good / different to the 997 but it's just something about the 911 which I prefer. GTS felt like a well sorted C2S whereas the GT4 drove a bit hard / tiresome on the road. All horses for courses and all that. I must be getting old 
Porsche911R said:
As a road car 997 GTS has the better engine , more feel and shorter gearing.
Cayman R is 1/2 the price but more fun !
Have to say agree 100% with all of the above. Cayman R is 1/2 the price but more fun !
Had all 3 (997 GTS, GT4 and now Cayman R) and the 997 GTS does have the best engine by far. The GT4 whilst an epic car is quite compromised in a few areas for a road car (note road car) with an average engine, tall gearing and annoying unacceptable rear suspension noises which OPC have an inability to rectify. The Cayman R is sublime as a road car and offers everything you would ever need in a fast road car at relatively sensible pace.
Never has a car been such a glowing example of so much less offering so much more as the Cayman R.
Appreciate this is a GT4 thread so not bashing but having owned all 3 in my opinion the Cayman R is the better and most rewarding fast ‘road car’.
chrisABP said:
Have to say agree 100% with all of the above.
Had all 3 (997 GTS, GT4 and now Cayman R) and the 997 GTS does have the best engine by far. The GT4 whilst an epic car is quite compromised in a few areas for a road car (note road car) with an average engine, tall gearing and annoying unacceptable rear suspension noises which OPC have an inability to rectify. The Cayman R is sublime as a road car and offers everything you would ever need in a fast road car at relatively sensible pace.
Never has a car been such a glowing example of so much less offering so much more as the Cayman R.
Appreciate this is a GT4 thread so not bashing but having owned all 3 in my opinion the Cayman R is the better and most rewarding fast ‘road car’.
:-) Had all 3 (997 GTS, GT4 and now Cayman R) and the 997 GTS does have the best engine by far. The GT4 whilst an epic car is quite compromised in a few areas for a road car (note road car) with an average engine, tall gearing and annoying unacceptable rear suspension noises which OPC have an inability to rectify. The Cayman R is sublime as a road car and offers everything you would ever need in a fast road car at relatively sensible pace.
Never has a car been such a glowing example of so much less offering so much more as the Cayman R.
Appreciate this is a GT4 thread so not bashing but having owned all 3 in my opinion the Cayman R is the better and most rewarding fast ‘road car’.
chrisABP said:
Have to say agree 100% with all of the above.
Had all 3 (997 GTS, GT4 and now Cayman R) and the 997 GTS does have the best engine by far. The GT4 whilst an epic car is quite compromised in a few areas for a road car (note road car) with an average engine, tall gearing and annoying unacceptable rear suspension noises which OPC have an inability to rectify. The Cayman R is sublime as a road car and offers everything you would ever need in a fast road car at relatively sensible pace.
Never has a car been such a glowing example of so much less offering so much more as the Cayman R.
Appreciate this is a GT4 thread so not bashing but having owned all 3 in my opinion the Cayman R is the better and most rewarding fast ‘road car’.
Best combo would be Cayman R (may as well start with an S) with the Powerkit/GTS engine plus Jens tweaks (M&M/Jens exhaust, map, air filter, de-snork) that should give you 430hp... You'd probably need to do something with the brakes too, and fit some better quality dampers (with spring rates/valving as close to the R's original rates as possible). It'd make a GT4 look silly AND be a lot more tactile and engaging into the bargain. It would be stupidly fast for the road though Had all 3 (997 GTS, GT4 and now Cayman R) and the 997 GTS does have the best engine by far. The GT4 whilst an epic car is quite compromised in a few areas for a road car (note road car) with an average engine, tall gearing and annoying unacceptable rear suspension noises which OPC have an inability to rectify. The Cayman R is sublime as a road car and offers everything you would ever need in a fast road car at relatively sensible pace.
Never has a car been such a glowing example of so much less offering so much more as the Cayman R.
Appreciate this is a GT4 thread so not bashing but having owned all 3 in my opinion the Cayman R is the better and most rewarding fast ‘road car’.
ghiblicup said:
Down to 9 in OPC's now. Does someone know something we don't?
Think it’s just the weather, and the (relatively) cheap price in comparison to the other Porsche GT products on the market, rather than any “insider knowledge” as such... It seems all but officially confirmed that the new GT4 will be a N/A unit, with plenty to support the notion of a 4L power plant.... Plenty also to support the lack (again!!) of a pure GT Motorsport engine, devoid of significant restrictions, and little chance of a high-revving unit....Again, if looking for a “modern” manual GT car, you have to now look at the Gen2 GT3— a full £100k more expensive (with the crazy overs), and—having owned a GT4 and driven a manual 991.2 GT3— I certainly don’t think the price differential is reflected in performance/feedback/driving pleasure.... Maybe when the overs settle....
Bang for your buck, the GT4 is a fantastic modern “GT” Porsche, and I simply think punters are increasingly appreciating that... It’s not as “analogue” as my old 987.2 Spyder, but it’s a hell of an impressive all-round machine, and definitely more powerful/modern... (And with 987 Spyders now fetching circa £50k plus on the used market, I’m not sure they offer so many more “smiles per miles” than the GT4 for around £25k more....) Again, horses for courses on this one— but I’m still in love with my GT4....!!
I don’t get this ‘motorsport engine’ stuff - the engine IS used in motorsport - it’s in the clubsport........unlike say the 991.1 GT3
It has also been fully ‘used’ regularly on track by some who post on here such with no negative impact.
I know it doesn’t rev to > 8k, but it’s doing a great job in let’s not forget was a £67k car, it seems pretty damm tough and durable and gets used plenty in motorsport
It is what it is - if the GT4 was fitted with a high specification engine, it might be more fragile (as per the 991.1) or significantly more expensive than £67k
It has also been fully ‘used’ regularly on track by some who post on here such with no negative impact.
I know it doesn’t rev to > 8k, but it’s doing a great job in let’s not forget was a £67k car, it seems pretty damm tough and durable and gets used plenty in motorsport
It is what it is - if the GT4 was fitted with a high specification engine, it might be more fragile (as per the 991.1) or significantly more expensive than £67k
Upnorthgt3 said:
I don’t get this ‘motorsport engine’ stuff - the engine IS used in motorsport - it’s in the clubsport........unlike say the 991.1 GT3
It has also been fully ‘used’ regularly on track by some who post on here such with no negative impact.
I know it doesn’t rev to > 8k, but it’s doing a great job in let’s not forget was a £67k car, it seems pretty damm tough and durable and gets used plenty in motorsport
It is what it is - if the GT4 was fitted with a high specification engine, it might be more fragile (as per the 991.1) or significantly more expensive than £67k
I think every one is saying it’s a great car at list price new, but I would look into 3rd gear issues when tracked over worrying about engines. Bit of an issue when people were looking to mod these out of warranty. While early cars had splined 3rd gear, 2016 onwards cars had a spot welded cog and under load that fails :-( as more of these cars see the track I think this might become a bigger issue than it already is. It has also been fully ‘used’ regularly on track by some who post on here such with no negative impact.
I know it doesn’t rev to > 8k, but it’s doing a great job in let’s not forget was a £67k car, it seems pretty damm tough and durable and gets used plenty in motorsport
It is what it is - if the GT4 was fitted with a high specification engine, it might be more fragile (as per the 991.1) or significantly more expensive than £67k
I also see Guard have a full gear set due out so a fix for two issues.
Upnorthgt3 said:
I don’t get this ‘motorsport engine’ stuff - the engine IS used in motorsport - it’s in the clubsport........unlike say the 991.1 GT3
It has also been fully ‘used’ regularly on track by some who post on here such with no negative impact.
I know it doesn’t rev to > 8k, but it’s doing a great job in let’s not forget was a £67k car, it seems pretty damm tough and durable and gets used plenty in motorsport
It is what it is - if the GT4 was fitted with a high specification engine, it might be more fragile (as per the 991.1) or significantly more expensive than £67k
In one - spot onIt has also been fully ‘used’ regularly on track by some who post on here such with no negative impact.
I know it doesn’t rev to > 8k, but it’s doing a great job in let’s not forget was a £67k car, it seems pretty damm tough and durable and gets used plenty in motorsport
It is what it is - if the GT4 was fitted with a high specification engine, it might be more fragile (as per the 991.1) or significantly more expensive than £67k
Slippydiff said:
chrisABP said:
Have to say agree 100% with all of the above.
Had all 3 (997 GTS, GT4 and now Cayman R) and the 997 GTS does have the best engine by far. The GT4 whilst an epic car is quite compromised in a few areas for a road car (note road car) with an average engine, tall gearing and annoying unacceptable rear suspension noises which OPC have an inability to rectify. The Cayman R is sublime as a road car and offers everything you would ever need in a fast road car at relatively sensible pace.
Never has a car been such a glowing example of so much less offering so much more as the Cayman R.
Appreciate this is a GT4 thread so not bashing but having owned all 3 in my opinion the Cayman R is the better and most rewarding fast ‘road car’.
Best combo would be Cayman R (may as well start with an S) with the Powerkit/GTS engine plus Jens tweaks (M&M/Jens exhaust, map, air filter, de-snork) that should give you 430hp... You'd probably need to do something with the brakes too, and fit some better quality dampers (with spring rates/valving as close to the R's original rates as possible). It'd make a GT4 look silly AND be a lot more tactile and engaging into the bargain. It would be stupidly fast for the road though Had all 3 (997 GTS, GT4 and now Cayman R) and the 997 GTS does have the best engine by far. The GT4 whilst an epic car is quite compromised in a few areas for a road car (note road car) with an average engine, tall gearing and annoying unacceptable rear suspension noises which OPC have an inability to rectify. The Cayman R is sublime as a road car and offers everything you would ever need in a fast road car at relatively sensible pace.
Never has a car been such a glowing example of so much less offering so much more as the Cayman R.
Appreciate this is a GT4 thread so not bashing but having owned all 3 in my opinion the Cayman R is the better and most rewarding fast ‘road car’.
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